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Disciple - The Long Review, and Screentimes


Damn, I feel rusty at this! Feels like its been months.  Oh wait, it sort of has....

First we begin with the screentime minutes, which brings us, or me, a pleasant surprise

Running Time:  41m, 45s (previously on:  1m, 24s)

Clark:  16m, 7s
Chloe:  8m, 23s
Lois:  9m, 54s
Oliver:  13m, 55s
Zod:  8m, 12s

Mia:  7m, 18s
BoredAgain:  7m, 20s

Year To Date:

Clark:  177m, 8s (10)
Chloe:  74m, 15s (10)
Lois:  164m, 15s (9)
Oliver:  100m, 13s (8)
Tess:  48m, 2s (7) <-- What the Hell?
Zod:  48m, 38s (6)

The review goes behind the cut, to protect the innocent

Whoops, I noticed I have a typo on the cut tag, which sort of makes it sound dirty.  I have no idea how to change that, so oh well.  LOL

As I said in my mini-review, this episode gave me great big belly laughs.  And I just have to like an episode that makes me laugh, even if its unintentional.  Though I wouldn't exactly say I liked Disciple.  I think it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, and it far more Clark then I was expecting, and he was sort of marvelous.  Though I still found it far too Oliver-centric to me, and I really don't understand why they have to bring in these elements of his story when it has just about nothing to do with Clark.  I said in tariel22 's journal, in a response to a JH interview, that it feels to me like they want to tell more then one superhero story here, as opposed to trying harder to figure out how Oliver fits into serving Clark's story.  This episode was an example of that to a T.

Lets start with the things I did like, and happily, there were a number of things.  Firstly, maybe it was just me, and I've been missing him, but I thought Tom Welling was  ON IT!  In fact, outside of the actress that plays Mia (and I'll get to that), Tom's acting was just about the only that felt like it was hitting on all cylinders.  Everyone else was a bit hit-or-miss with me.  And as for Clark, while I have some issues with his current storyline (and when don't I?),  thought the character came across really strong, proactive and decisive.  Its a look Tom wears well.

Because of this, when Clark was on screen, I tended to like what was going on.  He was adorably smitten and flirty with Lois (I wasn't as thrilled with the way ED plays those scenes, but its a minor quibble, as I think I know what she's going for in them).  He was formidable in his scenes with Zod.  He, rightly in my view, showed his frustration and exaspperation with Chloe and her methods, and her secrets, and this time it didn't feel like he backed off.  He then later showed concern for her, as a friend, and took a tentative step in trying to figure out what she needs.  He was also faithful friend to Oliver, wanting so much to believe him.  And then he was all contained fury in his last scene with Zod.  And in every scene, Tom just seemed to find the right vibe.  I thought it was a really strong episode for him.

Though, I did notice a "Tom Welling" moment.  What that means is that, very occasionally, Clark makes an expression, and it doesn't seem like "Clark".  It seems pure "Tom" to me.  And in his arguement with Chloe, he had this annoyed, eye-rolly moment which I can easily picture showing up from time to time in La Casa de Welling.

Also, I was a bit confused as to what Clark was suggesting to Lois.  About showing her "the galaxy"?  Is "galaxy" a euphemism for "my penis"?.

But, with all the praise I just heaped on Tom, and Clark, and saying I enjoyed his scenes, it doesn't change the fact that this episode had major problems.  For one thing, it was another "Oh Noes, I have a Darkity-Dark Soul" Oliver ep, and Why??!!  Why is this even necessary?   Its also an episode that continues to regurgitate the Lollie relationship, which just pisses me off since it was non-existant last season, and Oliver was all about Tess being this big regret in his life, and blah, blah, blah.  So, this all of a sudden "Lois is the only one I cared about" crap just feels manufactured.  Last season, outside of Bride, when did he seem like he gave that much of a shit about Lois?  And according to JH's interviews, they are going to explore Chlollie?  After this?  Wow, Chloe isn't my favorite character right now, but she doesn't deserve that sort of "well, I guess I'll settle for you".  And where the fuck is Tess in all this?.

And let us speak of Chloe.  One thing that was glaring for me in this episode was how clunky and annoying some of her dialogue was.  Not AM's fault at all.  I don't know how you deliver lines about a her vein "being cerviche" or "'I'm starting to think our favorite archer isn't all Green" (what does that even mean?), or "he was a dead hero walking" or "...boxcar to the bad news train".  OMG, MAKE IT STOP!  Who is writing this shit?

But also, I'm not entirely sure what AM is going for with Chloe.  She comes across as surly, condescending, just plain annoyed most of the time.  Is this supposed to tie into what is going on with Chloe?  Is AM just sick of the show, and has one foot out of the door?  I don't know.

Still, I did like the Chlark arguement.  Not surprisingly, I'm on Team Clark here, because I felt like what Chloe did in Roulette was reckless, and dangerous, and really scary manipulative.  But, I enjoy them arguing it out over the passive/agressive bullshit that seems to be most of their scenes.  But, I have to ask, where did Chloe get this image of Clark, and why?  She just doesn't seem to like or respect him at all anymore.  Is it because he walked away from her, and she isn't over it?  And I'm not sure how he can continue working with her under those conditions.

The Oliver stuff?  Well, like I said, WHY?  I found the whole backstory murky, and boring.  The actor playing "BoredAgain" was awful.  And while I thought the actress playing Mia gave a much stronger performance then she did in Crossfire,  I still don't understand why she's on SV.  She belongs on a Green Arrow show.  But on SV?  What connection does she have to Clark?  None.  They could've used this episode to introduce Mia to Clark, but they missed the opportunity.  We know she's going to disappear for weeks, and Oliver won't, so we'll be left to wonder what the heck she's doing, and where.  I just don't get her relevancy.  But again, nice job by the actress, Elise Gatien.


So, lets talk Zod.  Oh Callum Blue, what the heck is going on with you?  Now, I really liked the Clark/Zod scenes, and I liked the Lois/Zod scene well enough (though why Lois wasn't more creeped out and suspicious didn't quite work).  But this guy isn't just chewing the scenery, he's making a casserole out of it.  I mean, he's making John Glover look like a restrained actor.  The mumbly speech is killing me.  I have trouble understanding half of what he says.  And whats with the whole invasion of personal space he's got going on?  The biggest problem with this performance is that its so manic and heavy-handed, you can't believe for one second that Clark would believe he could work with this guy.  He's like a rabid dog.  There is no real charm, no smoothness.  He's not a villain that could charm anyone.  And worst of all, I bet he spits on the other actors when he talks.  That would be a problem for me, especially since he's always getting in their faces.

And I realize that Michael Rosenbaum was a master at the teary-eyed thing but I wish other SV actors would stop doing it.  Why does Zod always look as though he's on the precipice of bursting into tears, or popping a blood vessel?  I notice that JH oftens goes to this as well.  And last season, Sam Witwer did it all the damned time.  Jeez, Nut Up you Mary-Women!!

Speaking of JH, I think he excels far more at playing the breezy, charming, snarky playboy then doing this darkity-dark, brooding angst stuff.

The last Clark/Zod scene brought to light a big problem I had with Pandora.  Why the hell would Clark go official with Lois at exactly the same time he outed himself to Zod, and just what did he think would happen?  I mean, was he really surprised that Zod got to him through Lois?  If he was, why?  That didn't take a brain surgeon to figure out.  This is something Clark should've factored into the equation before he did what he did.  But since we have NO POV from Clark, and in fact, we don't even really know what his plan is in regards to Zod, it just makes him seem shortsighted and foolish.  Also, I can't help but think with that last scene that they are doing just as I feared....setting Clark up for failure.  And I seriously hate that!

There was some serious bad expositionary dialogue in this episode, and some extraordinarily bad lines.  Is Caroline Dries back?  That whole scene between Clark and Chloe where they find the maze was terribly written.  Why do we need to hear that Chloe is switching to satellite imagery that can see thought clouds?  Clunky!

I also found the directing of this episode choppy.  The whole maze scene was just badly staged.  And Oliver announcing to Clark that he shot BoredAgain in the shoulder, when that was perfectly obvious, and Clark's expression didn't really make it seem as though he needed the exposition.  I would've loved a line like "Well, Duh Captain Obvious".

Oh, I forgot to mention what made me laugh so much.  Well, the obligatory shirtless scene, JH running like a girl, BoredAgain getting so distracted by a marble statue, he doesn't see Mia come up behind him, BoredAgain's delivery of the line "Come On Oliver".  A laugh riot!

Next week, is the big 2 hour event.  Don't disappoint me Smallville.  You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. .

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tjw_jaypat
Jan. 30th, 2010 05:54 pm (UTC)
Once again, a great review! :)

I am glad to read that I am not the only one who feels that CB is a little over the top in his acting. After all, some already hail him as the new acting genius on SV. He sure knows how to play a creepy character, but it´s a little too much for me. I prefer the more subdued villans. As someone on K-Site said a while ago, he would probably order a pizza in the same intense way as he talks on SV. lol
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:23 am (UTC)
Thank you :)

Callum Blue is so ridiculously over-the-top, I don't know how anyone could think otherwise. And LOL at him ordering pizza like that.
lexalicious70
Jan. 30th, 2010 05:55 pm (UTC)
It's awesome that you do these and your reviews are always fun to read! (Even if I don't watch anymore LOL).

And I have to say, (please don't hate me,) the typo in your cut tag made me more interested in SV than I have been since Michael left! XD

You rock. ;)
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:25 am (UTC)
I think its really cool that someone who doesn't watch the show anymore still reads my reviews. Thanks. I hope one day that something will happen to get you to tune in again. And by something, I mean a certain Mr Rosenbaum coming back ;)

And LMAO at your reaction to the cut tag. I think I might use it weekly now. Sort of my new catchphrase "Come On It!"

You rock back!
jlvsclrk
Jan. 30th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
I think I enjoyed your review even better than the episode itself - and you know, I did like the episode despite the Ollie idiocy. I couldn't agree with you more about just how ridiculous I find Ollie's professed love for Lois, when we never saw him behave that way even when they WERE an item back in S6, for what, 5 episodes? Bah.

I share your concerns over AM's performance. I feel such antipathy every time she opens her mouth nowadays, and her crap about Clark running away whenever there's a decision to be made is absolutely ludicrous. As you say, this doesn't feel like hurt - it reads like contempt. But at least Clark more than held his own with her this week.
svfan01
Jan. 30th, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
I personally don't know why the show doesn't use Tess as Ollie's love interest. It would both cut down Lois' time a bit while giving Cassidy a little more screentime(although it might be better just to caught Ollie stuck in a bad place storyline altogether).

Do the producers feel that depressed Ollie is what fans want to see? It makes him look like a pussy and indirectly makes Lois look like a Mary Sue that he can't live without her in his life. The sad thing was I thought Bride was the perfect ending for the relationship.
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tasabian
Jan. 30th, 2010 07:12 pm (UTC)
I did like the Chlark arguement. Not surprisingly, I'm on Team Clark here, because I felt like what Chloe did in Roulette was reckless, and dangerous, and really scary manipulative. But, I enjoy them arguing it out over the passive/agressive bullshit that seems to be most of their scenes.
I liked it too - it had a nice "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" undercurrent of repressed anger (and affection too.) What I want now is a Big Dramatic Quarrel. I think Tom and Allison would rock that - their characters both tend to keep a lid on emotions and seeing it all come flooding out could be cool (with the right writer.)

And I realize that Michael Rosenbaum was a master at the teary-eyed thing but I wish other SV actors would stop doing it. Why does Zod always look as though he's on the precipice of bursting into tears, or popping a blood vessel? I notice that JH oftens goes to this as well. And last season, Sam Witwer did it all the damned time.
It made sense for Lex because he was pretty much canonically in love with Clark. And it made sense for Michael, because he's a big emotional mushball who cries at movies, The Biggest Loser and Chicago concerts! But it makes for bad drama for every random villain to get sniffly.

Oh Callum Blue, what the heck is going on with you? Now, I really liked the Clark/Zod scenes, and I liked the Lois/Zod scene well enough (though why Lois wasn't more creeped out and suspicious didn't quite work). But this guy isn't just chewing the scenery, he's making a casserole out of it. I mean, he's making John Glover look like a restrained actor. The mumbly speech is killing me. I have trouble understanding half of what he says. And whats with the whole invasion of personal space he's got going on? The biggest problem with this performance is that its so manic and heavy-handed, you can't believe for one second that Clark would believe he could work with this guy. He's like a rabid dog. There is no real charm, no smoothness. He's not a villain that could charm anyone. And worst of all, I bet he spits on the other actors when he talks. That would be a problem for me, especially since he's always getting in their faces.
"Casserole"! HEE! It baffled me that Lois wasn't instantly hitting the panic button as soon as Zod stepped into her room - I thought she was going to assume he was the shooter (which might have been interesting, if Zod was worked into the Dark Archer plot.)

My guess would be that Callum B. has decided to just enjoy himself - Chris Heyerdahl who played Zor-El, said he wasn't given any acting direction and just did what he wanted. CB seems to be taking the opportunity to use every ACTING tic in his catalogue. It's not making for a scary Zod, but Tom did seem to be enjoying their scenes (saliva notwithstanding!)

I also found the directing of this episode choppy. The whole maze scene was just badly staged. And Oliver announcing to Clark that he shot BoredAgain in the shoulder, when that was perfectly obvious, and Clark's expression didn't really make it seem as though he needed the exposition. I would've loved a line like "Well, Duh Captain Obvious".
Heh, that would have been great! There were lots of "dead spots" and long close-ups in this ep - I wonder if they came in under time and had to pad?
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:35 am (UTC)
Quite frankly, I want an all-out verbal brawl from Clark and Chloe, because I think the issues are there. All I ask is that it isn't one-sided, and it has a good outcome. And yeah, I think Tom and Allison would rock it.

At first, in the Lois/Zod scene, she seemed to have her hackles up, and it felt right. But then she seemed to get too comfortable with him. Like, of this suspicious guy that you never met comes in, and starts talking about your boyfriend, and saying all this stuff, would you say something like "I don't think Clark's own parents know the real Clark?" Well, no, because thats a bit too revealing to someone who don't know, and can't trust. And then, at the end, she seemed to be buying what he was selling. So, though it was well acted on ED's part, I just didn't think they got the right vibe from Lois.

There's no doubt in my mind that Callum is just throwing caution to the wind, and going Balls Out! Its loopy.

This was not a good ep for pacing. At all.
carolandtom
Jan. 30th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks for making me laugh! Some parts of yout review are hilarious and wonderfully clever at the same time. Of course I agree with everything you say and it's good to be able to laugh at things that normally would make me angry and frustrated. You've outdone yourself with this review!

Thanks for the numbers too. I'm overjoyed that Clark had the most screen time, since I was dreading he was going only to make a "special appearance". I hope he'll be all over "Legeniety", (title courtesy of LaT)
svfan01
Jan. 30th, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
My guess going on Tom's Directing history, he will be in 12 minutes of the first part, about 25 minutes the second part
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chrisluvstommy
Jan. 30th, 2010 08:08 pm (UTC)
I was very pleasantly surprised with Toms screentime and that he got to interact with everyone thanks for the times

Edited at 2010-01-30 08:09 pm (UTC)
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:37 am (UTC)
Me too. It was a really nice surprise, and I totally wasn't expecting it. Dare I hope that SV is finally learning that Clark should really be very present, even if the ep is about another character? Nah, I won't hold my breath.
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jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:43 am (UTC)
Cackling is good! I'm glad I could coax a cackle.

I don't even think I touched on how much the Oliver part of this story didn't work, because lord knows I could've said much more. It was just so badly constructed. Worse, it was dopey.

It seems to me that TPTB seem to feel like Oliver has to get all up into just about all of Clark's stuff. They did it with Lex, they did it with Lois, even Tess got into it, and the future seems to suggest more of the same. But thats the problem with making him a regular. All of these things that should be "Clark" things suddenly become Clark and Oliver things, as though they are the co-leads, co-heroes. And thats just crap.

To me, Chlollie make no freaking sense at all. For all the reasons I pointed out, and you pointed out, but here's the biggest....he really has never remotely acted like he ever sees her as an attractive, sexy woman. I've never seen that component in JH's acting with AM. So now, if he suddenly does, after all this pining for Lois? How is that believable?

But, you know what would sort of work? Fuck buddies, with Chloe being all "Well, that was nice...OK, work to do now".
(Anonymous)
Jan. 30th, 2010 09:39 pm (UTC)
It's nice to start off with an episode where Clark has the most screentime as he should. I'm glad to see his leadership and confidence displayed throughout the episode. Jordan Hawley did a wonderful job like he did on Rabid.

I'm also glad they brought up Roulette because Clark was barely in that episode and that he was harsh on Chloe on what she did. It was clear that Clark and Chloe are getting distant with Clark taking the high morals and justice while Chloe is getting colder and deceitful.

The Green Arrow/ Speedy/ Dark Archer was okay, but they need to work on getting Speedy to interact with Clark because this is probably the second time she didn't interact with him. I wonder how Clark knew Oliver was training her because they didn't show it onscreen.

The Clark/ Lois/ Zod storyline was refreshing to see and I think this may be the main triangle instead of the Clark/ Lois/ Oliver one. Clark vows to destroy Zod and his army if they got near Lois
again.

Overall, a great way to start off the second half of the season.
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
Clark should definitely have the most screentime. But honestly, 16m is still on the low side for him. Or, it used to be. Ah, the good ol' days.

Jordan Hawley did write a good Clark. Unfortunately, there were a lot of other problems with his script.

Personally, I want lots of stuff brought up with Chloe and Clark. I want the selective memory restoration, I want the death of Sebastian, I want her undermining him last year, I want the walking away from her, but still talking to Lois. I want all that baggage dragged out, and I want it settled. Bringing up the stuff in Roulette was a good first step.

I really was hoping that Mia would see Clark stop the arrows at the end, and Oliver would introduce them. But, for some reason, Mia just diappeared from the scene. Where did she go anyway?

Ya know, I just don't want any triangles. Period.
goodvibe
Jan. 30th, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
First of all, yay for Clark' screentime!

//this episode gave me great big belly laughs.//

OMG, yes. I especially started cracking up in the conversation about the island with lines like "there's only so much you can teach yourself on an island---" I'm sorry, but I LOL'd at this, just picturing the imagery of possibilities, heh!

//And as for Clark, while I have some issues with his current storyline (and when don't I?), thought the character came across really strong, proactive and decisive. Its a look Tom wears well.//

Yes, yes and yes.

//Is "galaxy" a euphemism for "my penis"?.//

Duh - totally! ;-) But seriously, I have to admit I did find his 'take you to the farm back' talk rather sexy. I'm easy like that. ::shrugs::

Not enough Word to your entire para on Oliver. "Why, o lord, why?!" was my reaction to all of it as well. And btw, wasn't aware that they're going to be exploring Chloe / Oliver. But can I just say, probably not the smartest move, after eps like these where Oliver is still all about Lois and Chloe' the only one who actually even doubts Oliver there for a sec.

//OMG, MAKE IT STOP! Who is writing this shit?//

What makes it worse is that its like, every other line she says now is some wierd pop culture mash up. Like you, I did find the Chlark scenes were way overdue though. About time.

Why are we calling DA 'BoredAgain?' But yes, I agree - terrible, terrible choice of casting.

//Why does Zod always look as though he's on the precipice of bursting into tears, or popping a blood vessel?//

Heh. I agree that CB was hit and miss here, though I didn't get the feeling at all that he was genuinely on the verge of tears in his scene with Clark though. My take on it was that he was completely faking - manipulation all the way.

Unintentionally hilarious, as you say, is good for now, but you're right - I want next week to wow me.
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:54 am (UTC)
Clark at #1....FTW! Should be the case more of the time.

Oh, yeah, the island line was funny. There was another one from BoredAgain to Oliver where he said something about Oliver not leaving for moral reasons but because "he enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too much". Ah, what? What does that even mean? I was having Infamous flashbacks.

I find agressive Clark very sexy too. BUT, I have huge issues with Clark wanting to have sex with Lois without her knowing his secret. Its a big, sticking point for me. So, if that was what he was suggesting, I'm sort of....not happy with him.

Still, Clark Kent with sex euphemisms? Who would've thought we'd see the day? Next week, I expect him to invite Lois up the Loft to see his etchings.

I hate writing with all this lame pop-culture stuff because 1. no one talks like that, and 2. it takes a really, really good writer to pull it off. Quentin Tarantino can do it. Judd Apatow can do it. Joss Whedon can do it. The SV writing staff? Not even close.

Oh, I'm calling him BoredAgain because I couldn't figure out what his name was supposed to be. Mortigan? Vortigan? So, me and my sister started calling him BoredAgain. And Madmartigan. And several other things. Just another reason we were laughing. Have I ever told you my sister calls the Kandorians "the Kardassians"? LOL

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jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
Naughty thoughts are good. I mean, what else could Clark have meant? I got Captain Hammer flashbacks (for those of you who have seen Dr Horribles Sing-A-Long Blog, you'll get the reference).

Oh, Clark was all over Oliver's thunder this week. Tom dominated.

I mean Uncle Zor-El. SCIENCE!

Mia is an unnecessary character. And she wouldn't have to be if they involved her more with Clark and Chloe. Since Oliver is all up in Clark's iconic stuff, why can't Clark be all involved with Oliver's iconic sidekick? Why doesn't it go both ways? That would, at least, make her relevent to the show.

The thing is that I think we should've had Clark's POV on what his plans were for Zod, and the Towers, before he ran off to introduce himself to Zod and friends. Because I think its important for the audience to see Clark thinking things out in advance, and formulating a game plan. As it is, it looks like he's winging it.
chatchien
Jan. 31st, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)
Come On it
I noticed I have a typo on the cut tag

Is that what we are calling it now?

Hey! I've got a gif for this, but I will refrain. All my innate Good Taste requires it. Actually, I lost the gif, but it was very inappropriate.

Though I still found it far too Oliver-centric to me

Did Clark take his shirt off? NO! Did Oliver take his shirt off? YES! I have justified Oliver and his presence.

to trying harder to figure out how Oliver fits into serving Clark's story.

I have figured this out. Shirtlessness. Any more SV Metaphysical Questions that you wish to ask me, Grasshopper?

A random Shirtless moment:

It's SPN, but now I am on a SV Hunt and I will be subject appropriate.

I really like the Clark and Lois relationship. Clark is late and sometimes doesn't show up? Well Lois is too. Why fight about it? They just accept it and joke about it.

Sex would be nice, but for now, let's snuggle and talk. Contrast this to the Lana and Lex angst. Of course, I love Lana, but she made Clark so immature and weak those last few years. This Clark with Lois is confident and adult and glowing with the love light. This time the slow love approach for Clark is working.

he had this annoyed, eye-rolly moment which I can easily picture showing up from time to time in La Casa de Welling.

Hey, it also shows up in La Casa de Fortress of Solitude when Clark is chatting with Jor El.

Is "galaxy" a euphemism for "my penis"?.

Well, that gives new meaning to the phrase, "In a galaxy far, far away." Does "far" mean not just distance but Size?

And where the fuck is Tess in all this?.

WHERE Is TESS, Period, Exclamation Point? It's been ages since I last saw her. Where is the glorious crazy that she brings with her where ever she goes? I am just not getting that Vibe from Zod. His mouth does twist as crookedly as his lying words, but I'm not getting the Lionel Outrageousness from him. Zod needs someone to torture exquisitely.

I like Chloe. She's in control, she is running things her way, she is not Clark's Poodle anymore. Chloe doesn't have to agree with Clark. She doesn't have to be right, either (last part of Season 8!!!! ;-p ) I give Chloe the same leeway that I gave Lex. She/He might love Clark, but she/he lives her/his own life and makes her/his own choices. And she/he is willing to debate Clark about it, and both Chloe and Lex will do their best to manipulate Clark for their own purposes. And Clark does understand this about them. But Clark has a history with and a deep affection for both.

And besides, Chloe looks great! Love her hair and those earrings. At first, I thought that Zod had visited her and given her some earring charms just like that one he gave Lois.

And Alas! "BoredAgain" aka The Dark Archer was not very compelling in SV, unlike SPN and his role as DR. SEXY, MD. It must have been the cowboy boots that brought on the charisma. Trust Dean Winchester to point that out to all of us.

Thanks for Keeping the SV Time Tables for all of us. Glad to have you back and doing well.

jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 02:06 am (UTC)
Re: Come On it
LMAO at that gif.

And I knew as soon as I saw my typo that you'd be all over that. So,thanks for not disappointing. ;)

I understand JH has a great body, but isn't it too much of a good thing now? I mean, where's the novelty? Where's the surprise? Where's the anticipation? Tom takes off his shirt, and we're all like "Whoa, Nipples!" because its rare. Does anyone care about Justin's nipples? His nipples aren't as special because they're out getting air all the damned time.

I am definitely enjoying the lack of angst with Clois right now, and I love that she doesn't stress him out over the little stuff. I like to tell myself its because, deep down, she knows. She knows who he is. The story works better for me that way.

Well, that gives new meaning to the phrase, "In a galaxy far, far away." Does "far" mean not just distance but Size?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I miss Tess :( I want Tess/Clark scenes. I want Tess/Zod scenes. CF is awesome, and the show is just ignoring her, and I don't get it.

AM does look great, though I wasn't digging the purple trapeze jacket, with that odd blouse and the huge belt. It was a bulky look for her tiny frame.

I'm glad to be back, and having a good ol' time at SV's expense again. Its such a good way to relax my brain.


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jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 03:07 am (UTC)
I also thought the Clark/Zod stuff should've been A plot, and the Oliver/DA/Mia stuff B plot. Mostly because Oliver's whole plot is really only meaningful for Oliver. And unless you are into Oliver's angst, its a bore.

Then again, I can't entirely disagree when people say the Zod stuff is a bore too. Between CB's performance, and the fact that the Zod stuff really doesn't feel like its gotten off the ground yet, I can understand why some wouldn't feel like it was working for them.

I understand that chemistry is subjective. But if I'm just looking at the characters of Oliver and Chloe, and what their relationship has been, and where they seem to be, mentally and emotionally, well....they just don't make sense to me as a romantic coupling. It feels random, and a little desperate.
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la_belle_isa
Jan. 31st, 2010 02:32 am (UTC)
I read your review before I watched the episode and I was wondering what you meant with "BoredAgain". Then I heard Oliver say "BoredAgain". LOL! I won't be able to ever hear the real name.
I read in several forums that some viewers fell asleep during the Ollie scenes. To avoid that terrible ordeal, I just fastforwarded through his scenes. Yep, Clark was great in that episode!
I agree that Ollie pining for Lois couldn't be more manufactured. It gives a Lana-esque trait to Lois.
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 03:09 am (UTC)
I know if I ever rewatch the ep, I'll giggle everytime someone says "BoredAgain". Its stuck in my head now.

It seems to me that whenever the writers gets fixated on a female character (Lana in the past, Chloe in S8, now Lois) they aren't content unless there's more then one fella panting after them. I don't quite get it. The resurrection of Lollie makes zero sense to me.
agentobrian
Jan. 31st, 2010 07:19 am (UTC)
Average screentime:

Clark- 17m, 43s
Chloe- 7m, 25s
Lois- 18m, 15s
Oliver- 12m, 31s
Tess- 6m, 52s
Zod- 8m, 6s

I seriously hope the second half of the season does a better job of balancing out ST than the first half did. This episode was a baby step in the right direction wrt ST, but they still have a ways to go.

My major problem with Clark in this episode was in his last scene with Zod. I totally support him being upset over Zod going near the people he cares about. With Clark knowing what Zod is capable of, it makes sense that he'd want Zod as far away from his friends and family as possible. But I have a problem with the future Superman threatening to destroy anyone, even a villain, if they dared come near Lois (I'd feel the same way if Zod had gone after Chloe or anyone else instead of Lois). That scene made me dislike Clark quite a bit.

"Is Caroline Dries back?"

Let's hope she stays away from SV. But this episode was written by the same guy who did Rabid, and I thought it was just as bad at that one. It seemed like he was trying to be clever with the dialogue, and it ended up being an epic fail. I hope he's not doing any more eps this season.

"Is it because he walked away from her, and she isn't over it?"

IMO that's still a major part of why there's a huge abyss in the Clark/Chloe friendship, at least from Chloe's POV. Is it fair? Maybe, maybe not. That depends on your POV. But I think it's a realistic reaction from her.

"So, this all of a sudden "Lois is the only one I cared about" crap just feels manufactured."

For me it fits with the "All Lois, All The Time" mentality that's been the main focus this season.
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 02:41 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if the screentime will start balancing out more with the supporting cast. I think maybe it will. But I don't expect more from Clark, quite frankly.

I didn't mind Clark threatening Zod like that because I think it was necessary for Clark to show strength in that scene, because thats what Zod will understand. Thats the mindset he operates from. So, I was taking it literally, since I know Clark was never going to destroy all the Kandorians. But its probably not a bad idea for Zod to think maybe he might.

But, I'm not quite sure how smart it was of Clark to show Zod quite clearly just how easy it is to get to Clark through people he cares about.

Rabid is actually my favorite ep of this season.

I just wish Chloe and Clark would have it out so I don't have to guess what issues they have with each other. I want it all out there. They both have grievances, and they are both pussy footing around it, and its not much fun to watch for me.

Like I said above, I think when SV's PTB get fixated on one of the girls, they feel its absolutely necessary for more then guy to be in love with them. We saw that from Lana in the past, Chloe last season, and now Lois.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 31st, 2010 07:58 am (UTC)
Fun time, this was!!!
Hello! Britas15, here!

I greatly enjoyed my first LiveJournal experience. I feel like Clark's gonna feel after the first time Lois has her way with him: enlightened, satisfied, and eager for more.

And we can swear here!

Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy.

I feel better now. Moving on...

Callum Blue: I've seen him elsewhere and he's actually got some talent. I think he's being asked to overact, overemphasize, and chew the hell out of the scenery. If he plays an over-the-top villain, then it makes things easier for the population of idiots that watch "Smallville" (By that, I mean the majority of the fanbase. Seriously, at least 51%.) to discern the more obvious narrative tropes -- good, evil, love, hate, etc. etc.

Allison Mack: I certainly hope she's sick of hanging around the show because, narratively, Chloe needs to be shown the fucking door.

"The Galaxy": I think that by "the galaxy," Clark meant either his secret, or a make-out. Personally, I think he meant both, and he was letting Lois take it however she wanted to. He clearly wants to tell her, and there was an interesting thing going on in "Disciple" where Clark seems to be trying to gauge when the right time is to tell Lois, and Lois is trying to let Clark know that there's no rush, and that she's fine not knowing. Hence, "the galaxy will be there next week." Also, Lois seems like she's being skittish on the physical front, especially in public and maybe even in private, also. So, he seemed to be offering her some privacy in case she wanted to take the affection a step further. Lois declined this notion also. Hence, again, "the galaxy will be there next week." Ultimately, though, Clark wouldn't propose sex so soon in a romance, because he's still kind of old-fashioned. Hence, "there's nothing we'll be doing in five weeks that we can't do tonight." In other words, no sex tonight and no sex for at least another five weeks. Just some making out. But, of course, she shot that down. Because this is "the one" and she doesn't want to put herself in a situation that may lead her to pursue more than what it seems like they've agreed upon pursuing for the time being.

And to answer your question: Tess is somewhere licking her wounds after having found out that she's lost Lois to Clark.

Anywho, I greatly enjoyed this! Thanks!
jeannev
Jan. 31st, 2010 02:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Fun time, this was!!!
LOL, yes, we can swear here. And talk about sex in detail. And all that grown up stuff. I love it!

I agree with you that CB has talent, because I've also seen him elsewhere. But on SV? I just don't think what they are having him do is working. Or, maybe you are right, and they are going for this broad, comic booky villian thing. But, again, it doesn't quite fit the story they are telling on the show.

I wish that "the galaxy" meant his secret, because you know how I feel about that. And if it was just making out, thats perfectly fine. I really don't quite understand why Lois is limiting the PDA's. I understand taking it slow, but you can so that while still showing affection to your boyfriend.

I like to think Tess is licking her wounds because she can't have Clark. I really love Cless....when there is any of it. I think her banter with Lois is just to mess with her. Though with Tess, maybe she wants both.

Thanks for stopping by, and you are welcome anytime. :)
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