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A Hodge-Podge Post


-- "Hodge-Podge"?  Thats a funny term.  My office just moved to a town with a very similar sounding name, and I get a good chuckle out of my customers trying to say it, and saying "Hodgepodge" instead.  LOL

Sometimes, its the little things.

-- So, did anyone make any New Year Resolutions?  I did the usual....lose 10 pounds, get more exercise, be more fiscally responsible.  In other words, things I have very little change of actually doing. 

-- One of the things I really want to do this year is figure out to make a vid.  I'm sure its hard, but I should be able to figure it out, right?  If I need certain equipment, or a program, I can buy it.  I have so many good ideas.  My biggest problem is that I have very little patience for computer related things, so if I can't figure it out in less then an hour, I tend to walk away in a huff.  I have a feeling I'm going to need to get over that if I'm going to be successful at making a vid.

-- I always say I'm going to try my hand at writing a fanfic too (how else am I going to get Red-K Clark and Tess?), but I write 1 page, and then convince myself its utter crap, and thats the end of that.  If I ever do finish something and put it out there, its almost a guarantee that it won't be under any of the screen names that I've used before.

-- I find twitter really frustrating.  I hate that I post to certain posters (namely the SV Writers), and I know I'm doing it right, and it doesn't show up.  WHY?  WHY?  I also have a problem in keeping my thoughts contained to so few characters.  I'm pretty sure twitter is causing peoples brains to shrink.

-- I finally saw the movie Wall-E all the way through, and I totally loved it.  What a sweet movie.  And its one of those films that has a message, but doesn't feel the need to cram it down your throat. 

--  Still haven't seen Avatar.  Still don't intend to. 

And now for the Smallville Portion of my Hodge Podge

-- So, has everyone seen the new SV promo of the Absolute Justice (and that name still sounds more like a Jean Claude Van Damme movie than something SV related) poster?  Well, the CW hasn't gotten much better at Photoshop, but at least they seemed to remember that Clark was the central character.  I'm not sure too many other people remember that. 

In fact, Damian Holbrook, who I think writes for TV Guide (?) just said on twitter that the producers don't usually give them anything spoiler-ish on Clark.  What fucking sense does that make?  And yet, I don't doubt it.  Because they're idiots.

As you can tell, I'm still not much enamoured of Souders/Peterson, though it seems some fans are ready to declare their canonization.  Not I.  Not enamoured of the CW reps on twitter either. 

I'm not a SV shipper, as everyone here well knows, but I'm glad that SV is picking a ship for Clark, and going with it, and committing to it.  I'm not crazy about how prominent it is in the storyline, but I'm OK with Clois themselves.  But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches.  I just don't get how thats a. romantic, or b. favorable for Clark's character. 

Or, let me put it this way....does anyone talk in those terms for Lois?  Does anyone ever read about how Lois couldn't exist without Clark?  How she would be half the person she is without him?  How he is her air to breathe?  How she couldn't become the reporter she's destined to be without him?  NO!  Never.  No one ever says that stuff.  Why?  Because that would really diminish Lois as an individual character, and take away her own inner strength and accomplishments.

But for Clark?  No freaking problem to do that - for some.  It makes me freaking nuts. And turns me into the Anti-Shipper.

That completes the Smallville section of my Hodge Podge


I'm really pissed I forgot to watch Archer on FX the other night?  Did anyone see it? 

I'm going to give Human Target a chance because I've always thought Mark Valley was a cutie-pie.  Anna Torv is a lucky woman.

I'm looking forward to the final season of Lost, but I'm also really apprehensive.  I'm glad the show is ending with a set endpoint.  But I just have this terrible feelings I'm not going to like the ending much.  And if they kill off Sawyer, I'm going to cut a Bitch.  I mean it.

So, how it everyone?  Talk to me.


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dawnybee
Jan. 6th, 2010 06:21 pm (UTC)
"Hodge-Podge"? Thats a funny term.

I love the term hodge-podge!

-- One of the things I really want to do this year is figure out to make a vid. I'm sure its hard, but I should be able to figure it out, right? If I need certain equipment, or a program, I can buy it. I have so many good ideas. My biggest problem is that I have very little patience for computer related things, so if I can't figure it out in less then an hour, I tend to walk away in a huff. I have a feeling I'm going to need to get over that if I'm going to be successful at making a vid.

Talitha78 has a great tutorial for vidding. I tried it and gave up after half an hour. There are just somethings I have to leave to the pros.

I always say I'm going to try my hand at writing a fanfic too (how else am I going to get Red-K Clark and Tess?), but I write 1 page, and then convince myself its utter crap, and thats the end of that. If I ever do finish something and put it out there, its almost a guarantee that it won't be under any of the screen names that I've used before.

I think we're our own harshest judge, so you should turn it over to someone turn who is more objective.

I find twitter really frustrating. I hate that I post to certain posters (namely the SV Writers), and I know I'm doing it right, and it doesn't show up. WHY? WHY?

It doesn't show up in your profile or you can't see it on their twitter page?

-- So, has everyone seen the new SV promo of the Absolute Justice (and that name still sounds more like a Jean Claude Van Damme movie than something SV related) poster?

Title sucks more than the promo art which is a pleasant surprise, but I can't take that they have that slender face on that broad body. It doesn't match.

but I'm OK with Clois themselves. But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches. I just don't get how thats a. romantic, or b. favorable for Clark's character.

I can't even speak on it because I am so not on that ship, I'm all the way over standing on the shore. And I hate that the writers persists on making other people the essence of Clark's being: whether it's Chloe or Lois, why must he be always defined by his relationships and not by who he is as a person? This Chloe or Lois humanizes him makes me ill.
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC)
I know Talitha is the Queen of Vids! I'll have to have her ask for the link.

Its hard for me to even turn over a fic to someone because I'm so critical of it. I'm too embarassed to even let a friend see it.

My tweets show up on my page. But they don't show up on the pages of who I'm tweeting to about half the time, maybe more then that. And I do get it. Because, sometimes, they go through. So, what gives?

[quote]And I hate that the writers persists on making other people the essence of Clark's being: whether it's Chloe or Lois, why must he be always defined by his relationships and not by who he is as a person? This Chloe or Lois humanizes him makes me ill. [/quote]

Just total word to that. Why can't Clark be who he is because of Clark! I'm not saying Lois, or anyone else, can't help him be a better person/hero, or a happier soul. But wouldn't he be a pretty awesome, heroic, kind person just on his own?
goodvibe
Jan. 6th, 2010 06:44 pm (UTC)
::waves:: Got in a couple of days ago. Just sent you an email in fact. And pics, as you had requested. :-)

I'm so behind on SV news - what promo, and where can I see it? Unless it's terribly spoilerish, in which case, I'll pass. :-(

//But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches. I just don't get how thats a. romantic, or b. favorable for Clark's character.//

Ugh, that old argument again. It's the same one tired line of reasoning that I've too often seen come from some fans of all three 'ships, wrt their girls. Frankly, I think it's highly dismissive and even disrespectful to Clark, but what can I say. Remember in SV Land, 'ships are always the "heart" of the show.

//Or, let me put it this way....does anyone talk in those terms for Lois?//

I think for me, when I look at this, as in, are Clark and Lois better off together than not? I think, ultimately yes, since they are an endgame couple and it's time we see that playing out. But there's also years worth of eps and canon that show Clark and Lois either single or in love with other people where I still love both characters. Them being in a relationship together should add to them as people, but as individuals they've still shone, regardless. Just as they've faltered too. As they will continue to do so, even in a relationship, in fact. Being in a relationship, no matter how great and healthy doesn't automatically make the individuals in it flawless, or whole.

//I'm looking forward to the final season of Lost//

So am I. I'm just bummed I couldn't finish my rewatch, the way I wanted to. Stupid RL keeps getting in the way, heh. They better not kill off Sawyer. I'm hoping against hope for Juliet too (I was completely taken unware of how much Sawyer/Juliet as a couple grew on me) though I know it's not likely. As it is, I'm already mourning the loss of Sayid. Since I'm sure the bastids are going to kill him off, probably first ep or something.

I'm going to share in the Wall-E love. It's one of those beautiful films that are effortlessly so.

And no, no new years res for me. I stopped pretending to keep any a loooong time ago, heh.
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
YAY! Pictures! I'm so excited. Can't wait to read your email.

Its a promo poster for the 2 hour Absolute Justice movie. tariel22 has it posted on her journal. Not spoilerish at all.

Frankly, I think it's highly dismissive and even disrespectful to Clark, but what can I say.

So do I. And yet, you never, ever see it in the reverse. I have yet to see anyone, anywhere, insinuate that Lois would not be able to go on, or would never be happy, or successful, without Clark. Ever.

Them being in a relationship together should add to them as people, but as individuals they've still shone, regardless.

Exactly. And that seems to stand for Lois. Clark? Not always. I don't get that.

I loved Juliet and Sawyer too. So much. I know Kate is going to fuck him over, and I want him to be happy, Dammit!


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jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
I also find SV frustrating. I love it, but its a frustrating show for me to love.

I'm not sure of the premise for Human Target, but I'm willing to give it a try.

Oh, I forgot to mention, I want to watch the new Timothy Olyphant series, Justified. That looks like it kicks all kinds of ass.

I keep thinking Lost is going to give us the sort of an ending another fav show of mine gave us. That show was La Femme Nikita, and the show totally fucked the fans in the finale (IMO), and then they explained that the show couldn't have a happy ending and that audiences liked to be mind fucked. I could see the same sort of thing happening with Lost.
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la_belle_isa
Jan. 6th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
ROTFL at your New Year’s resolutions! Strangely enough, mine are a bit the same. I’ve tried twice to write a clex fanfic, I wrote 3 paragraphs, I even got the titles, and… well, ONE DAY, I will finish them. I have the small excuse of the language barrier though.
//I find twitter really frustrating. I hate that I post to certain posters (namely the SV Writers), and I know I'm doing it right, and it doesn't show up. WHY? WHY?//
I know next to nothing about twitter but I thought it might be :
1- because they don’t follow you or,
2- because they blocked you.
I noticed that no one *cough pissed-off Chloe fans cough* is spamming their account anymore. I believe the only ones that go through are DC characters fans and cloisers (of course!) i.e. what the writers want to sell.

//In fact, Damian Holbrook, who I think writes for TV Guide (?) just said on twitter that the producers don't usually give them anything spoiler-ish on Clark. //
Why am I not surprised? Well, those producers are the same who thought that Requiem would be a « huge fan favorite », according to Peterson himself in the last SV mag. « Disconnected » doesn’t even begin to describe them.

//I'm not a SV shipper, as everyone here well knows, but I'm glad that SV is picking a ship for Clark, and going with it, and committing to it. I'm not crazy about how prominent it is in the storyline, but I'm OK with Clois themselves. But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches. I just don't get how thats a. romantic, or b. favorable for Clark's character.//
I agree. I want to like Clois more than I do now, but the shippers make it hard for me. Do you remember on K-site that Lois fan who started that offensive thread thanking Lois for making Clark a man? So what was he before? A gerbil?

//Or, let me put it this way....does anyone talk in those terms for Lois? Does anyone ever read about how Lois couldn't exist without Clark?//
My dear, who cares about Clark? It’s all about glorifying a girl in order to prove she’s Clark’s equal. I swear, if Clark ever fly some day, the scene will go like this : Chloe will be pushing, Lois will be pulling, and Oliver will yell at him to get his butt on the roof and fly already. Clark will have nothing to do with it!
//And turns me into the Anti-Shipper.//
*gasps* *throws holy water at you* lol. I finally caved and I filtered 2 posters on k-site. You’re right, life is so much better now! :D
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
I would like to write Clex, but for me, Clex is one fucked up mess of a relationship, and so anything I would write would be super-dark! I'm not sure I'm brave enough for that.

But I have ideas.

See, the thing is that sometimes, I will tweet and it gets through. So, they couldn't have me blocked. And I'm not sure why they would when they let the spammers through. And it doesn't only happen for the SV Writers. Its like my twitter is broken, or something. It pisses me off!

My dear, who cares about Clark? It’s all about glorifying a girl in order to prove she’s Clark’s equal.

Seems like it. Though I'm not sure I'd say equal, since Clark always seems to be just that much less.

Filtering at K-Site makes for happier posters, I think.

I want to like Clois more than I do now, but the shippers make it hard for me. Do you remember on K-site that Lois fan who started that offensive thread thanking Lois for making Clark a man? So what was he before? A gerbil?


Yeah, I remember that, and thats the stuff I'm talking about. Its like Clark doesn't get any of the credit for being the person that he is. As though he's just a bunch of parts put together by different people, and they get the credit. What kind of nonsense is that?

Can you imagine a thread thanking Clark for making Lois a woman? It would never happen.

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chatchien
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC)
So, did anyone make any New Year Resolutions?

Uh, What...
Hell to the NO!

(how else am I going to get Red-K Clark and Tess?

Oh PLEase...make it as good as naked Ollie in Tess's bed.

Nekkid RedKal in Tess's bed (formerly Lex's): "It's been a while since I've been here, but I think that I remember a few things that might intrigue you."
Tess sitting at her vanity table with only her vanity to clothe her: "I need to know your position on Saving the World which is my obsession, day and... part of the night." ::stares at him with her big, blue eyes:: And I do mean the HE of Him, get it?
Nekkid RedKal in Tess's bed with no sheets covering HIM up: "I'll show you a few of My Positions. They might help you assume yours more confidently."
Tess's swollen moist mouth slowly drops open...
Hey, is this journal protected from the prying eyes of nosy little kids?

See there you go, scribble away. And when you need inspiration or if you think that yours is bad---just look at mine. :-))

So, has everyone seen the new SV promo of the Absolute Justice (and that name still sounds more like a Jean Claude Van Damme movie than something SV related) poster?

I just love, lurve, adore the golden streaks in Clark's hair. How does he achieve that look? Does he actually melt gold (or bronze---this is the cheap CW) and plaster it with the molten metal for that sun kissed look?

I finally saw the movie Wall-E all the way through, and I totally loved it.

And his girlfriend was so much Hotter than him! And tougher! Haha!

But every time I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity"

Well, I love Lois, but I can't say that she is my Humanity. I think that my genetic code determines that.

But Every god(s) has to have his Humanity or Humans. And Humans and Humanity have got to have their gods so the two do go together. But Clark has a lot of Humans to make up his humanity: Jonathan, Martha, Lois, and all the ones who are begining to see him and admire him and need him past the Blur.

They are the ones who need him (Jonathan and Martha needed a child to love and raise, Lois needs a Hero to admire although she works just as well with shlub like Clark whom she can lord it over and he can admire her, and the people in Metropolis and points west and east who need someone who can challenge and intervene in nature and fate) who anthromorphisize him. And let's face it, Clark was imprinted and raised by humans---I hope this is pointed up in his relationship with Zod and the Khandorians in future episodes.

I just like a relationship for Clark where he can see his beloved for what she is---no more telescoping Lana into a small town goddess or liking Alicia's superficial similarities to himself and not acknowledging that Alicia had no morals. Just let Clark see Lois pulling her thong out of her butt crack and then let him hold the hand that did it. That's what I say!

Edited at 2010-01-06 09:17 pm (UTC)
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:32 pm (UTC)
OMG, Judy Garland in The Pirate! Thats why I love you. You find the coolest stuff.

I'm definitely going to save your RedK Clark and Tess, and use it for inspiration. Thanks :)

And his girlfriend was so much Hotter than him! And tougher! Haha!

He wouldn't have even been able to go on being a robot without her.

But Clark has a lot of Humans to make up his humanity: Jonathan, Martha, Lois, and all the ones who are begining to see him and admire him and need him past the Blur.

And I'm OK with that. Clark, like all of us, is the sum of our experiances. But there's also a part thats just inately Clark, I think. Part of him that is just good, and heroic. And while his life would be changed without one, or more, of the people in his life, Clark would still be good and heroic. The only exception I make to that is the Kents, because I think them raising him as a child was formative.

I just like a relationship for Clark where he can see his beloved for what she is

And I think Clois is this. I don't think Clark has Lois up on any pedastels. He seems to have a pretty clear picture of who she is.









Edited at 2010-01-06 09:33 pm (UTC)
rowanda380
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
good luck with those resolutions, who knows, maybe this year you will do it!
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 10:03 pm (UTC)
Maybe. One can only hope, right?

I don't think its a bad thing to start off the year with some goals.
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agentobrian
Jan. 6th, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC)
"So, did anyone make any New Year Resolutions? I did the usual....lose 10 pounds, get more exercise, be more fiscally responsible. In other words, things I have very little change of actually doing."

Normally I don't, but I did make one this year- to finally finish the piece of 24 fanfic that's been unfinished ever since I started watching Smallville.

"Still haven't seen Avatar. Still don't intend to."

Me neither. I don't watch Cameron movies unless someone pays me to.

"In fact, Damian Holbrook, who I think writes for TV Guide (?) just said on twitter that the producers don't usually give them anything spoiler-ish on Clark. What fucking sense does that make? And yet, I don't doubt it. Because they're idiots."

I guess in the minds of TIIC (the idiots in charge), if they don't tell us anything about Clark, we'll tune in to find out what he's doing. And that might have worked years ago, but in today's world, it doesn't. If anything, it only encourages people to tune out because they think Clark has no storyline.

"And turns me into the Anti-Shipper."

When I read millions of posts glorifying a relationship/character, while at the same time bashing every other relationship/character that they think threatens their favorite, all that does is further turn me off of said relationship/character.

And this is not just limited to the SV fandom- this attitude is becoming a bigger part of many fandoms I've visited (that and the obsession with pairing up characters who might share one 30 second scene in an episode, then never see each other again). It takes a lot of the fun out of fandom.

"I'm pretty sure twitter is causing peoples brains to shrink."

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. I have zero desire to join Twitter because this time next year, everyone's going to be obsessed with some other networking site, and Twitter will be obsolete.
jeannev
Jan. 6th, 2010 10:10 pm (UTC)
Yay! for fanfic resolutions.

I'm not a Cameron hater. I love the original Terminator movie, and I find Aliens to be one of the most quotable films ever. But I'm sure Avatar is a decent film, it just doesn't appeal to me at all. Besides, 3-D gives me a headache.

I guess in the minds of TIIC (the idiots in charge), if they don't tell us anything about Clark, we'll tune in to find out what he's doing. And that might have worked years ago, but in today's world, it doesn't. If anything, it only encourages people to tune out because they think Clark has no storyline.

Yeah, it sounds like they're screwed up logic. But I think its just bullshit. I think most people want to be excited about Clark, and his storyline, and if you don't drop hints on it, it doesn't build any anticipation.

Its stupid. They're stupid.

I'm not a big fan of diminishing one character to build up another. I do understand making comparisons to point out double standards, and such. But I just can't be OK with all this "no one really meant anything to Clark until..." stuff. Why does it have to be that way?

And I've also spent time in other fandoms, and I know bad behavior runs rampant.

I don't mind twitter in principle, but I hate the fact that mine doesn't seem to work like everyone else.

My Twitter is defective!
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jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 12:28 am (UTC)
I think I need to make Wall-E icons. He's so darling.

I'll be sending positive vibes your way on keeping to the budget and plan. Send some back, please :)
sunflowercyn10
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:11 am (UTC)
Hodge-Podge....cute term. Your right sometimes its the little things in life that give us a giggle. Like watching my son have giggle fits because his yogurt would slip off his spoon and go splat on his tray. I have found having a little one reminds me to slow down and appreciate the little sillies...

Sounds like you picked the usual suspects for resolutions Val :) I'd have to say that I don't make resolutions but call them lifestyle changes ( lol ) and I end up doing a little better then. This year I had to say to heck with losing weight for obvious reasons but instead try and just eat good foods and not give into crazy treats just because I'm pregnant. Exercise is a bit challenging with the bone chilling weather outside...

Vids? Go for it babe! You have incredible inspiration in Mr. Welling *winks* Fanfic....again go for it. I'm not a fan of Clark with Tess but if that's your cuppa tea then go for it.

Wall-E...I loved it. I saw it with Alexander when he was still a baby and I could go to these special Mommy showings. You're right about it having a message that didn't hit you over the head. I also thought it didn't be goofy with adult humor that you see in so many animated movies nowadays if you know what I mean.

Avatar...I keep going back and forth on that one. I'm curious but I hate Cameron :( We really only have one possible movie night coming up so I'm really on the fence on what to see right now if we could only pick one movie. Any suggestions?

Did you get to go out and celebrate your B-day in the end? I remember you had a snow-delay.

Human Target? I've been seeing the trailers...sounds interesting.
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
I think its a good thing to find amusement in the little stuff in life. Like, for instance, I hear this banging noise at my bedroom door last night, and it turns out to my Flynnie cat trying to get his huge cat toy (which is a 10' spring on a wood stand with a pom-pom on the end) throught the doggie door and into the room. I don't even know how he carried this upstairs. It was so adorable.

I don't beat myself up about resolutions. It feels like a good time to take stock of your life, and make some changes. But if you don't, well, thats OK too. There are a lot of things I should do, but will I do them? Don't know.

Making a vid is really more important to me right now then writing a fic. But it really comes down to me having the patience to learn how to do it.

The best film I saw recently was The Blind Side. I thought it was so touching, and heartwarming, and I thought the actors were sensational. And the fact that its based on a true story makes it all the more emotional for me. I also thought Sherlock Holmes was fun, though not without some problems.

I ended up going to the city for my birthday on the weekend after Christmas. And it was a great day. So, alls well that ends well.
sunflowercyn10
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:16 am (UTC)
Now to dive in to this....
But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches. I just don't get how thats a. romantic, or b. favorable for Clark's character.

Or, let me put it this way....does anyone talk in those terms for Lois? Does anyone ever read about how Lois couldn't exist without Clark? How she would be half the person she is without him? How he is her air to breathe? How she couldn't become the reporter she's destined to be without him? NO! Never. No one ever says that stuff. Why? Because that would really diminish Lois as an individual character, and take away her own inner strength and accomplishments.


One of my friends on LJ who is a rabid comic fan explained it once to me like this. Clark is a good man who was raised to have good values by the Kents and who also finds himself with super powers that he could use to take over the world but doesn't because again of his inherently good nature and upbringing. Clark does decide to take on the huge challenge of living 2 lives so that he can be the ultimate protector of humans and also put himself front and center to act as a good influence and provide hope. But in the end Clark carries a huge weight on his shoulders with the responsibility he has not to mention the huge sacrifices in his personal life. Where does Lois fit in to this? My friend explains that as Clark saves humanity as Superman and is constantly watching and looking for danger who is looking after him? On SV we have heard Lois say to the Blur "what do you need?" Just like on SV Clark broods and feels guilty when he cannot save everyone he gets upset in the comics as well. There are times as the worlds greatest hero that he can't save everyone ie after an earthquake and rescuing survivors...how does one handle dealing with carrying out all the dead? Does he go home alone? My friend explained that is where Lois fits in so well with Clark. She provides balance, someone to talk to, someone to hold him and someone to tell him not to beat himself up all the time. Maybe SV could do a better job of showing this so that Clark's story is front and center with Lois being his support when times get tough...just a thought.

I can see where you would get upset about how when folks say Lois is Clark's "humanity"or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her because I think some folks are taking things out of context when they post stuff. Clark is an alien with powers who was raised by humans but will never truly be a human no matter how hard he tries. We have seen him try so hard for so many years to have a normal life on SV and then at one point try and give up on that existence all together. What Lois does is make Clark "feel" like a man despite everything....that somehow he fits it even though he makes mistakes. Lois whether in the comics, tv or movies makes mistakes but has this ability to admit when she is wrong and bounce back and this helps him and touches the humanity inside of him. One of the things that SV has tried to show with Clark over the years is his fear of being alone in his life and never finding that special someone. Maybe what some fans are not "getting" when they refer to Lois=Clark's humanity is that its is the realization in the AU-reality over many months that the special someone was right in front of him all along and because of him still dealing with being hurt by the end of his previous relationship he missed an opportunity with Lois. We know that Clark is a passionate being and cares deeply so he leave his friends behind aka humanity so he can cut-off any feelings and just try and stop ZOD. On the present time line....Clark really does think that he can say good-bye to Lois even though seeing her again triggers stuff but again because he has a big heart we know in the end he will not be able to. So I would argue that Lois isn't Clark's humanity but she is able to "touch or reach it" in such a way that surprises him that we used to see Jonathan or Martha do. Maybe SV could give us more of Clark's POV on this too.
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:30 am (UTC)
Re: Now to dive in to this....
My friend explained that is where Lois fits in so well with Clark. She provides balance, someone to talk to, someone to hold him and someone to tell him not to beat himself up all the time. Maybe SV could do a better job of showing this so that Clark's story is front and center with Lois being his support when times get tough...just a thought

And I have no problem with any of this. Lois as someone to love Clark (and be loved in return), and someone who can support him is something I'm completely behind. But thats a far cry from the sort of credit I see her getting for who Clark is. Not always, of course. I'm just talking in the extremes.

I do think the show could do a much better job of bringing out this aspect to Clois, but it really can't while she is in the dark over his identity. But I do think they've shown how she has the potential to be a great support system for him, and vice versa. And I'm perfectly OK with that.

So I would argue that Lois isn't Clark's humanity but she is able to "touch or reach it" in such a way that surprises him that we used to see Jonathan or Martha do.

And I've got no issues with that either.

Maybe SV could give us more of Clark's POV on this too.


There's no doubt about that, as far as I'm concerned. I feel like I have almost no POV from Clark at all in this whole thing. Beyond knowing that he really likes Lois a lot. I just feel like the show is missing a giant opportunity here by not delving further into what Clark is thinking and feeling here.
Re: Now to dive in to this.... - sunflowercyn10 - Jan. 8th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC) - Expand
polytikal
Jan. 7th, 2010 05:04 am (UTC)
1) Please go see Avatar. Please. You won't be disappointed.

2) I need to give you a Twitter tutorial one of these days. That said, do not rely on the Twitter search function to see if your @replies are "going through." The Twitter search does not display all results. Your tweets absolutely are 100% going through to their @ page.

Hi. :)
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 02:41 pm (UTC)
I know you loved Avatar, and you definitely aren't the only one. I can't quite figure out why I'm so turned off by it.

Are you sure they're going through? I'd feel better if I knew that. And its not just on their page that I can't see my tweets.

And yes, you will have to give me pointers.
svfan01
Jan. 7th, 2010 06:09 am (UTC)
" I find twitter really frustrating. I hate that I post to certain posters (namely the SV Writers), and I know I'm doing it right, and it doesn't show up. WHY? WHY? I also have a problem in keeping my thoughts contained to so few characters. I'm pretty sure twitter is causing peoples brains to shrink"

In George Orwell's 1984, he refers to a language called "Newspeak"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Newspeak is a fictional language in George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. In the novel, it is described as being "the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year". Orwell included an essay about it in the form of an appendix in which the basic principles of the language are explained. Newspeak is closely based on English but has a greatly reduced and simplified vocabulary and grammar. This suits the totalitarian regime of the Party, whose aim is to make any alternative thinking—"thoughtcrime", or "crimethink" in the newest edition of Newspeak—impossible by removing any words or possible constructs which describe the ideas of freedom, rebellion and so on. One character, Syme, says admiringly of the shrinking volume of the new dictionary: "It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words."


That's my opinion of Twitter
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
Wow, thats profound. I certainly don't see twitter as doing anything to improve the art of communication. But I guess I could say the same thing of the internet in a lot of ways.

Its a changing world, and not always for the better.
tariel22
Jan. 7th, 2010 12:41 pm (UTC)
I use hodge-podge all the time! But I also use catawampus and hornswoggle, and yell out God Bless America when I stub my toe. :)

I don't make New Year's Resolutions because I never keep them. But I think it's natural to take stock at the start of the new year and think about the changes you'd like to make in your life. So at best I suppose I've acknowledged to myself that I'd like to eat healthier, drink more water, and get more sleep. She says as she types this in the wee hours of the morning. *is hopeless*

I think learning how to make a vid sounds so exciting! What if you just start with a very small goal, say a short sequence? I've seen vidders on my flist do that to learn a new skill or technique. And then just build on that. I think talitha78 would be an amazing resource, I'm sure she could help you find some good tutorials.

Have you seen the latest spoilers? Maybe you WILL get Red!K Clark and Tess! I swear the writers were listening when you guys campaigned on Twitter for another Red!K episode! AND when you asked for more Clark spoilers! Keep up the good work!

I don't understand why your tweets don't show up either. That is totally weird. I like Twitter for getting the latest news first, for quick, efficient communication, and for celebrity watching. I don't like to have extensive conversations there, the format is too limiting and too public. And I'm sad to see some people abandon their journals to be on Twitter exclusively, because I miss the eloquence of the thoughts they no longer have the space to express.

I resisted seeing Wall-E for a long time. Robots? No dialogue? No way! I should have known better, I have yet to see a Pixar movie I didn't like. I had my doubts about Up, too, but I went to see it nonetheless, and of course I was blown away. I wasn't intending to see Avatar, but my nephew was desperate to go, so I took him. We saw it in IMAX 3D, and it was a visual wonder. Sigourney Weaver and Michelle Rodriguez were awesome. I had some problems with the story, but I'm not sorry I saw it.

But everytime I read a post about how Lois is Clark's "humanity", or how he can't eat/sleep/breathe/fart/exist without her, my eye twitches.

I know what you mean. Don't get me wrong, I like Lois, and I think she's important, but I certainly hope Clark would still be Clark without her. If anyone is Clark's humanity, I think it should be Martha. In the comics, she's the well he returns to in moments of crisis when his alien side threatens to take over, and she always reminds him of the whole person he is, the combination of his alien heritage and his human values, both of which make him the hero the whole world looks up to. Martha is sorely missed on Smallville, IMO.

In my mind Clark is unique, and better than all men, all by himself. And Lois is his partner. The Lois I like is the modern one, the one who knows Clark's secret, and who loves Clark more than she loves Superman. I hope Smallville's Lois can be that woman someday, and I think she's well on her way. She eases Clark's burdens, with love and laughter and spirit, and she certainly brings his human side to life, reaching out to the man behind the Blur.

The way I look at it, without Lois Clark would still be a hero in every way, but he would probably be a lonely hero, strong but stoic, with the weight of the world always on his shoulders. And without Clark Lois would still be a great reporter, but also lonely, and cynical, with all her walls fully fortified. Together they break down each other's defenses, love each other fiercely, and have a chance at true happiness.

I'm going to give Human Target a try, and I'm looking forward to Life Unexpected, too. LOST always makes me wary, but I'm all in, until the end. I want Kate and Jack to be together because they deserve each other, and neither one is good enough for Sawyer! And if they kill Sawyer, I will be heartbroken.
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:42 pm (UTC)
"hornswoggle" is totally awesome!

I know talitha would be a great resource, but I also don't want to bother her, ya know? She must get asked a lot. This weekend, I'm going to do some research into it, and find out what I can find out. I have these great ideas, and songs picked out, and I can even visualize what clips I want to use. I just need to figure out how to do it.

I've seen the latest spoilers, and while I'm excited about Red K Clark, I dont hold out much hope for interaction with Tess. With my luck, they'll use it as an excuse to have Clark hornily pursue Lois, or do something that causes a rift between them. Instead of all the really cool ways they could use Red K, like having Clark let some buried feelings fly Chloe or Oliver's way. Or have him interact with Tess and Zod. Yes, I'm cynical. Especially after the first part of that spoiler, which just tells me that Clark's storyline being focused on his lovelife is going to continue. And I'm very much against a Chlollie hook-up of any kind.

I agree with you that twitter doesn't really provide a stimulating way of conversation. Then again, I'm verbose, so maybe that economy of words is too challenging for me.

God, I miss Martha so much on SV. For the reasons you noted, but also as a person in Clark's life that he can talk to, and someone who knows him without their own agendy getting in the way. It pisses me off so much that they haven't bent over backwards to get AOT back for guest appearances.

Together they break down each other's defenses, love each other fiercely, and have a chance at true happiness.

And I agree with that totally. There's a big difference for me between "I'm a better person with you", and "I'd be nothing without you". Know what I mean?

Kate and Jack can fall into a very deep well, and angst each other to death. Sawyer gets some peace and happiness in his life! I demand it.


(no subject) - tariel22 - Jan. 7th, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC) - Expand
starry_dawn
Jan. 7th, 2010 01:05 pm (UTC)
Hi, hi, hi! I have nothing new to add here, but I just wanted to holler atcha. :D
jeannev
Jan. 7th, 2010 03:42 pm (UTC)
Holler back *hugs*
gildinwen
Jan. 8th, 2010 03:27 pm (UTC)
Not anything to add here, I just wanted to say "HI!!!" And is it too late to place an entry for the min Clark picspam? I haven't been able to because I've had no internet *izsorry*
jeannev
Jan. 8th, 2010 03:52 pm (UTC)
Hi You!

And now, its never too late.

Sorry about your internet. What a bummer! No apologies necessary.
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