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Prey Screentime Minutes, and Thoughts


I wasn't so much in love with this episode.  I thought it had a lot of good ideas, but I also thought the execution was a bit lacking.  And there were some things that just flat out rubbed me wrong.

But, lets start with the numbers....

Running Time: 41m, 44s (the episodes continue to be at very similar running times)

Clark 19m, 55s
Chloe 14m, 39s
Jimmy 9m, 3s
Davis 16m, 47s

And an added bonus

John Jones 4m, 58s

Season to Date (# of eps)

Clark 117m, 14s (6)
Chloe  80m, 22s (6)
Lois    56m, 6s (5)
Jimmy 34m (4)
Tess   43m, 38s (5)
Davis  29m, 47s (3)
Oliver  41m, 55s (3)

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I think one of the first things that occurs to me about this episode was that I missed some of the lightness and humor that the show has had over the last few episodes.  When I tried to think of something witty for the LJ cut, I found myself completely at a loss.

As I said, I do believe this episode has some good ideas.  Most particularly with regards to Clark, and his learning curve now that he's embraced proactive heroism.  It isn't as though this sort of thing comes with a manual, and under the present circumstances, I can't see Clark asking Oliver for advice.  Right now, Clark is throwing himself completely into this whole thing, and he doesn't quite have the right perspective, and absolutely no sense of balance.  But these are the sorts of things that are going to take time, and I think Clark has to figure out his own boundaries, and his own code of ethics. 

And this is a great dilemma for our young Superman to have to experiance.  But I think, for me, this episode made the whole thing so negative, and angry, and fraught with angst, that I believe they took a genuinely interesting situation and twisted it into something it didn't need to be.  And also, once again, they mixed in Clark's sense of guilt into the equation.  And I think its time we stop leaning on that particular crutch of a plot device.

Obviously, the methods Clark used to investigate the murders was a point of controversy.  Should he have taken the list from Chloe?  No, probably not.  But was he wrong to think that was a good starting point for the investigation?  No, I don't think so.  Was he "persecuting" the meteor afflicted?  No, and I saw nothing in this episode that supported that, though we had Chloe accusing him of such. 

Lets look at the facts:

The victim was a meteor infected girl who was killed directly after leaving a meeting at Isis
She was murdered in an unusual way. 
After 8 years, I think the show has gone out of its way to establish that a great number of meteor infected people do harm people, and have killed.  Sometimes completely randomly.

The reality is that even a police investigation would likely want to trace the victim's last steps, find out where she had been, and with whom, and then ask those people what they saw, did they know where she was going, was she meeting someone, did she seem nervous, had she mentioned any threats, and so on and so forth.  If the group at Isis was composed of a gardening club, and one of its members was murdered directly after leaving the club, chances are the police would want to question them as well.  This episode seemed to want me to believe that it was OUTRAGEOUS that the police would want to question these other group members, but at no time does the episode suggest that these kids were harassed by the police, unfairly rounded up, treated badly, or had their rights infringed upon in any way.  Also, one of the kids mentions that they had all been visited by *a* cop.  Not cops.  Or, in other words, John Jones. 

I don't know, call me a nazi, or whatever, but I just didn't see the horrendous violation of civil rights that took place here.  Yes, I can understand the desire of anonymity, but when one of your group members is horrifically murdered, might that not be just reason to change the rules?  I think so.  But having cops in the family, I tend to side with the people trying to catch the bad guys, and not so much with the PC police.

But, I can understand Chloe being angry about Clark going behind her back, and I can understand her going to the DP and giving Clark a piece of her mind.  What I can't understand, and what I think is unacceptable, is Chloe suggesting that Clark is a coward for not coming forward.  Really, she can STFU with that shit!  And oh yeah, when did Chloe come forward to offer up her healing abilities or her supersmarts?  Oh wait, was that...NEVER?  Yeah, like I said, STFU!

To repeat...angry Chloe getting in Clarks face?  Fine, I get it, don't blame her.  Angry Chloe taking some cheap bullshit shot at Clark?  Fuck her!

And BTW, if Chloe wanted to tell Clark to fuck off after his crack about her little group, I would've been fine with that too.  I don't see that as a cheap shot from him, just dismissively rude.

While I'm on the subject of rudeness, it was rude for Clark to be ignoring Chloe on what was supposed to be their night out, and he should've told Chloe that he was too busy to say yes to her suggestion. 

I did like that Clark came to apologize, and admitted that he went too far.  And I also liked that he didn't completely abandon his position though.  For the record, Chloe did admit that she could be stubborn too, but she didn't apologize for what she said to Clark.  I think she owed him one. 

Jimmy was OK in this episode, though I don't quite get why we're playing up Jimmy Olson-roving reporter.  I guess I always thought of Jimmy as a photographer, first and foremost.  This one seems less interested in taking pictures, and more interested in breaking stories.

I wish the show could make up their mind with the Chimmy.  After last weeks "he's my guy" stuff, I'm not quite sure why we're back to the not-very-subtle hints that Chloe isn't all that into the Jimster.  I just don't see how this back-and-forth stuff makes Chloe look good.

I think Sam Witwer is a very talented actor, doing a great job with the material (and yes, he has a nice body).  But frankly, I'm not so terribly interested in the woobification of a murdering monster.  I know I'm supposed to be thinking "Oh, Boo-Hoo, its not his fault", but ya know, I feel like I've been down that road already.  And it was done better. 

But there can be no denying that AM and SW have great chemistry. 

I think my least favorite scene of the episode was the one between Clark and Davis at the hospital.  I just didn't like how Clark was written there at all, and I couldn't help feeling that the scene was written completely for Davis.  Souders/Peterson are notorious for this shit.

John Jones/Phil Morris completely rocks my world.  I wish he was a more constant presence on the show.  He's the only character that I like giving Clark guidance, or even a lecture.  I think he's uniquely qualified for that.  And I also like the presence of an older acto.  He brings a gravitas to the proceedings.

OK, now we come to my BIG RANT!  Be warned...

To me, where this episde utterly and completely FAILED is in the suggestion that Clark was not considering the meteor infected, and had never helped them because he was too busy saving people from them.  Thats just retcon bullshit!  Now, granted, Clark has had many run-in's with the bad meteor freaks, and he's thrown more then a few the required 30 feet.  But we've also seen Clark save, or try to save, more then a few.  We've seen him believe in them when others didn't  (Alicia, Maddie, Jordan), we've seen him befriend them (Cassandra), we've seen him relate to them (Cyrus, Andrea), we've seen him stand up for their rights (Extinction)...

So, what now the show is telling me that Clark needs to be told by Chloe that the meteor infected are people too?  Bullshit!  Thats a crap retcon.  And it seems to me that the reason for it is to diminish what we've seen from Clark in the past now that the show has decided that Chloe is the patron saint of the meteor infected.  And its not even a role that suits her particularly well.

OK, rant over....

I think I still liked this episode better then Toxic, but not as much as Odyssey, Plastique, Instinct and Committed.  I do love that the episode had Clark taking such a proactive role, and SW is great.  But still, too much rubbed me the wrong way. 
 

Comments

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canadabear
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)
To me, where this episde utterly and completely FAILED is in the suggestion that Clark was not considering the meteor infected, and had never helped them because he was too busy saving people from them. Thats just retcon bullshit!

I think the big problem is really, the writers aren't connecting with each other from episode to episode. I saw a lot of that at the end of last season, but I gave them the benefit of the strike doubt and assumes that they would have multiple episodes being written at once to get their required amount done in time. But this season, there are just huge contradictions going on that are flat out confusing.

As you pointed out as well, Chloe re: Jimmy is a perfect example. For two weeks straight, he's been her "perfect" guy. Now she admits she doesn't have the kind of relationship with him that she had with Clark. We have Lois moving out of the Talon one week and still living there the next. And we have Clark giving one of the most Supermanly speeches to a meteor infected killer in Plastique, telling her he knows what it's like to be different, but he believes she can handle it, but this week? Clark's never given them a second thought before. He's always been out for the victims. That's not even going into all the examples you listed above.

I can forgive a lot of writers and fictional entertainment, because when it comes right down to it, that's all it is for me; it's fun. But glaring mistakes like these are what's turned me almost completely off LOST and is starting to get to me about Heroes. When it's becoming evident to people like me who tend to miss a lot of details the first time around, you're so doing something wrong.
jeannev
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:41 am (UTC)
You raise a lot of good points about the disconnects. I also fear from the spoilers we have that some of the eps are going to be all over the place, and sending mixed messages. And at this point in the show, and this likely being the last season, I don't think thats a wise choice.

I think comparing this episode and the next one is going to be really interesting, because this one was written by Souders/Peterson, who are the writing duo I don't have a lot of faith in, and the next one is written by Slavkin/Swimmer who I trust a lot more, especially with Clark.

But yeah, the retcon about Clark and the meteor infected really rubbed me wrong. Hell, Clark was the ONE character who didn't call them freaks. And now we're supposed to believe its something he needs to learn and understand from Chloe? Thats just not good.
serenography
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)
Yes, to much of what you've written here. This episode just felt very off to me, mostly in terms of Clark's characterization. It felt like he took a few steps back, and it was done very clumsily.

The meteor-infected character that I remember most, who Clark loved like a little brother was Ryan, from Stray and Ryan. Man, those are two of my very favorite episodes of the entire series.
jeannev
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:44 am (UTC)
It was a strange thing with Clark in this episode, because he seemed to simultaneously be moving forward, and moving backwards. But yeah, bottom line, it did feel off to me.

I'm not sure if they ever definitively told us if Ryan was meteor infected or not, but it doesn't really matter. Again, here's a case of someone that is different, and Clark completely embraces him.
svgurl
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:42 am (UTC)
You made a lot of great points here. I wasn't overly impressed with the episode though Clark's pretty shirt in the beginning was enough to keep me occupied. I'm so shallow. :D

I think one of the first things that occurs to me about this episode was that I missed some of the lightness and humor that the show has had over the last few episodes.

Definitely! This was not funny. I can't think of a funny scene!

Right now, Clark is throwing himself completely into this whole thing, and he doesn't quite have the right perspective, and absolutely no sense of balance. But these are the sorts of things that are going to take time, and I think Clark has to figure out his own boundaries, and his own code of ethics.

Very true. I also like that Clark has J'onn (even if we don't see him often) because I think that J'onn can relate to him better. Not completely but he'd be more understanding.

And I think Clark will learn figure out his own boundaries soon enough ... he's getting there. :D

What I can't understand, and what I think is unacceptable, is Chloe suggesting that Clark is a coward for not coming forward. Really, she can STFU with that shit! And oh yeah, when did Chloe come forward to offer up her healing abilities or her supersmarts? Oh wait, was that...NEVER? Yeah, like I said, STFU!

Yup ... I think that's SV's problem. They can take logical reasons for being upset and ruin it by having the character yet again accusing Clark for not doing something. And you're totally dead on about Chloe. She should know better than anyone that Clark is trying. Calling him a coward was not cool.

They just need to end Chimmy. They're giving me a headache. I like Jimmy when he's buddying up with Clark. And AM & SW have great chemistry.

To me, where this episde utterly and completely FAILED is in the suggestion that Clark was not considering the meteor infected

Yeah, I think that if anyone hasn't considered them, it's Chloe. She only sees them now that she found out she's one. Clark's the one who has always been more gentle.

The Chloe-Clark apology scene was kinda adorable though. :D

I'm more excited for next week.

Sorry for rambling. :)
jeannev
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:49 am (UTC)
The brown dress shirt was totally made of win!

I know I'm very sensitive to people throwing these low blows at Clark. And yes, I know he's done it as well, but guess what? He's my favorite. And the show has sort of done that whole "I met this person only 5 minutes ago, but I trust them more then you Clark" before, and I HATE it. Now, granted, this wasn't so extreme, but its something that just gets my back up. I think the only character I was OK with taking a cheap shot at Clark was Lex, because it was reciprocal. But when it comes from Chloe, or Lois, or Lana...flames shoot out of my head! Its not pretty. ;)

Ya know, I'm OK with Chloe finding her calling to be a helper of the poor downtroden, though again, I'm not sure the role suits her character. But don't diminish Clark to achieve that goal. Thats just not right.

And please, ramble. God knows I did.
beef_wonder3
Oct. 25th, 2008 12:00 pm (UTC)
I liked the point you raised about Clark trying to figure out his own code of ethics. He betrayed Chloes trust to get what he wanted but he also realized that he'd stepped over the line.
That's why I liked the apology-scene. Both Chloe & Clark acted pretty shitty towards each other, which happens sometimes, and I'm glad they acknowledged that their behaviour towards one another wasn't great. It's hardest fighting with friends, because they're so close.

John Jones/Phil Morris completely rocks my world.
Me too!!! Omg, i <3 him so much :D
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
But I think something thats also important to remember here is that Chloe's judgement and blind trust of "her kids" was also found to be lacking, and Clark did have a good reason for thinking that list was a valid place to start the investigation.
goodvibe
Oct. 25th, 2008 01:59 pm (UTC)
I could just say 'Word' and move along, but I'm in the mood to ramble a bit. Bear with me. :-)

//But I think, for me, this episode made the whole thing so negative, and angry, and fraught with angst, that I believe they took a genuinely interesting situation and twisted it into something it didn't need to be. And also, once again, they mixed in Clark's sense of guilt into the equation.//

Exactly. It was unnecessary. This ep felt like such a departure in tone from previous eps of this season - it was almost jarring.


//Yes, I can understand the desire of anonymity, but when one of your group members is horrifically murdered, might that not be just reason to change the rules? I think so. But having cops in the family, I tend to side with the people trying to catch the bad guys, and not so much with the PC police.//

::nods::


//I did like that Clark came to apologize, and admitted that he went too far. And I also liked that he didn't completely abandon his position though. For the record, Chloe did admit that she could be stubborn too, but she didn't apologize for what she said to Clark. I think she owed him one.//

Yes. I both liked and disliked this scene. My biggest beef with it though was the writers trying to present this absolute one right-one wrong POV here. When really, there were all shades of grey present.


//I know I'm supposed to be thinking "Oh, Boo-Hoo, its not his fault", but ya know, I feel like I've been down that road already. And it was done better.//

I observed similarly as well - that maybe it would be time to start toning down the ambiguity. Let's see the badass side really creep out now - afterall isn't that what his ultimate function on the show is supposed to be? Let's get there while we're still interested as an audience, instead of treading a road already taken.

And I can't express enough how much I'm in agreement about both the Clark and MF attitude, and Jon Jonz.
starry_dawn
Oct. 25th, 2008 07:50 pm (UTC)
My biggest beef with it though was the writers trying to present this absolute one right-one wrong POV here. When really, there were all shades of grey present.

I do think they addressed the "greyness" (for lack of a better word :P) of the matter, though, by having Chloe break it off with Davis in that final scene. I thought it was pretty clear that they'd both made mistakes (him in being too obsessed with finding the killer, and her, as usual, in her perpetually wrong judgment calls) and that they both realized what mistakes they'd made. And I think the decision to end that Chlark scene on Clark questioning Chloe's ability to trust the right people was deliberate as was her using that knowledge to pull away from Davis in the next scene.
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tasabian
Oct. 25th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
the show has decided that Chloe is the patron saint of the meteor infected. And its not even a role that suits her particularly well.
That's because they seem to be shoe-horning her into Lana's role (emotion over reason, perpetually apologized to by Clark, juggling multiple boys) and that didn't work the first time round! Chloe was always the hard-nosed, skeptical one and that's what I liked about her - the last thing the show needs, IMO, is Lana 2.0

Clark did nothing wrong - there was a killer in the Isis group (which in itself is a profoundly dumb) so he didn't owe any apologies at the end. The scene was nicely played by TW and AM though.

That said, I liked this episode more than any since "Odyssey" - I loved seeing Clark rushing about saving people, loved his super-jump and his interactions with J'onn, Jimmy was used well for once.

I think my least favorite scene of the episode was the one between Clark and Davis at the hospital. I just didn't like how Clark was written there at all, and I couldn't help feeling that the scene was written completely for Davis.
I did like this scene because to me, it showed that much as Davis plays up his woobie side to Chloe, he's got a menacing side even when he's not in monster-mode. He's almost blackmailing Clark here, and I liked the implied threat. But you're probably exactly right that it was written as a "Davis-showcase".

And good as SW is, IMO he's just on the verge of chewing the scenery. In the future, he may be attaining Zor-El levels of enjoyable Ham!
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:25 am (UTC)
I agree with you, that Chloe is now Lana in a lot of ways for TPTB. Maybe this is the only one for them to envision their "leading lady". But I think it ignores who Chloe always was, and it ignores that some Lana traits really didn't need to be passed on.

I'm OK with scenes that are a showcase for the bad guy, or anyone really. I just don't believe they should come at Clark's expense.

Oh, Zor-El! I miss him and his SCIENCE! That was the only funny review Omar has written in years. For me anyway.
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acampbell
Oct. 25th, 2008 09:42 pm (UTC)
You articulated SO WELL many of the reasons I like Lois in the show!
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eeyore1017
Oct. 25th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
Are you surprised that once again I agree with everything you said here? :-)

Angry Chloe taking some cheap bullshit shot at Clark? Fuck her!
Yes! Fuck you Chloe!

I don't know, call me a nazi, or whatever, but I just didn't see the horrendous violation of civil rights that took place here.
I agree with you. Let's say the girl was coming from an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Wouldn't the police still want to interview all of the people who saw her last, regardless of the whole "Anonymous" thing? I don't know this for a fact, of course...

Was he "persecuting" the meteor afflicted?
No, I don't think he was. Like you said, STFU Chloe!

it was rude for Clark to be ignoring Chloe on what was supposed to be their night out,
I agree, but how many times have we seen Clark and Chloe "togetherness time" consist of him following her around the DP, talking to her, while she was working?

I do think that the writers are trying to make us sympathetic to Davis. I could understand this if they hadn't announced to the whole world that DAVIS=DOOMSDAY, but since we all know this, why should we be sympathetic to the guy that's eventually going to become a Clark-killer?

I completely agree that it's a bunch of B.S. to say that Clark has never considered the feelings and needs of meteor freaks before. Just because TPTB don't watch the show and can't remember what happens from one episode to the next, doesn't mean that the viewers don't.

I'm crossing my fingers for next week. By the way, I haven't looked, but I bet that there are a lot of TWoPers who loved this episode because there was lots of Chloe and she spent quite a bit of time yelling at Clark and trying to make him feel like an idiot.
starry_dawn
Oct. 25th, 2008 07:44 pm (UTC)
I agree, but how many times have we seen Clark and Chloe "togetherness time" consist of him following her around the DP, talking to her, while she was working?

I don't think that counts, though. Their "togetherness" time is usually mixed with them trying to solve a case, and it's usually not specified that it's their "dinner and movie night". He just comes into the Planet whenever he wants, and I don't think it's fair to expect Chloe to stop all her work so she can sit and talk to him. I think she wins this one.

there was lots of Chloe and she spent quite a bit of time yelling at Clark and trying to make him feel like an idiot.

I didn't get this at all. I think there were definitely issues between the two of them that needed to be addressed, but I didn't think she was trying to make him feel like an idiot. The line about him not coming forward was stupid, I agree, but then so was him making a crack about her counselling group. Now, I'm not for Saint!Chloe either, but Clark, of all people, shouldn't be dismissing her efforts to save people.

I thought both of them said and did some pretty stupid things in the episode, and that they did make up for it with the apology at the end. I do think it's unfair, however, to say that either one was more to blame than the other.
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miss_tress
Oct. 25th, 2008 07:07 pm (UTC)
And oh yeah, when did Chloe come forward to offer up her healing abilities or her supersmarts?

That's what really stuck in my craw about this episode. Chloe hasn't even told Jimmy, the man she's going to marry about her powers, but Clark is supposed to tell every random K-Infected person that comes to Chloe's support group about himself?
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:34 am (UTC)
I just think that comment went way too far over the line, and I think Souders/Peterson have a habit of doing this. I can't help but think back to the comments Lana made about Clark in Wrath that also got swept under the rug. And then its just compounded for me by Chloe not apologizing for saying it.

It really rubbed me wrong.
starry_dawn
Oct. 25th, 2008 07:38 pm (UTC)
I think my biggest problem about this episode came from how Clark was written. First of all, some stuff was completely moronic. Like you said, since when has he not cared about the meteor-infected, or thought that they were inherently evil people? We've been through this argument so many times before, with different sets of people, and to put Clark in the position of non-believer is just plain idiotic, when we KNOW from before that he's always taken the opposite stance. Total bullshit.

Secondly, I hated that he came off as so snippy throughout the entire episode. All but blowing Chloe off on their friends night together, snapping at her for doing her counselling stuff, snapping at Davis without any second thought, snapping at MM for telling him what to do ("Is this your idea of a pep talk?") ... the list just goes on. I love Clark, and TW has always done a great job of portraying that never-ending hope and kindness that he possesses. To see that jaded side, and that too for no reason, really rubbed me the wrong way. I don't want a frustrated, annoyed, snippy superhero. Batman does that pretty well. Superman is supposed to be the ever-kind, ever-gentle, ever-hopeful one. You know, the one from the previous 5 episodes of the season. I'd like him back, please.
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
I think we were supposed to be seeing Clark as overwhelmed, and fixated on finding the murderer. So, thats why he was short with people. As I said, I just don't think the tact was effective, or necessary to make the point the episode was trying to make.

Its almost as if the episode was trying to tell me Clark was wrong for being so gung-ho about saving people, and wanting to find the murderer. And I don't get the point of that message.
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jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:38 am (UTC)
I definitely think this episode was a different flavor from the eps that came before. I guess its just up to the viewer to decide what flavor they prefer. After the lightness and humor in the previous eps, I think thats what I find more entertaining.
acampbell
Oct. 25th, 2008 09:37 pm (UTC)
Those remarks of Chloe's were, to me, reminiscent of some of the accusations made against Lex in the past, cf. Clark" "You only think of yourself," "Maybe if you'd tried harder, your father would've loved you"...makes me wonder if a) the writers have even watched this show, or, b) if they have, what they're ON.

I rewatched the ep this afternoon, and it seemed better the second time through, but still--not one of my favorites for this season so far. However, I'm enjoying Lana's absence more than I can say!
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:39 am (UTC)
Yeah, short term memory loss seems to be an ongoing problem. But I sort of got it with Clark and Lex, given the complexity and difficulty of their relationship. So, when they went for the low blows, and the jugular, I got that. But I don't get it coming from Chloe.
jude_judith82
Oct. 25th, 2008 11:05 pm (UTC)
Even though I put this episode in my liked pile I had a lot of the same issues you did with them. Chloe calling Clark a coward and the show then implying that he never helps the meteor infected which I think you succinctly mentioned. I gave this episode a pass because I think there were a lot of great ideas. So artistically I'd give like a nine but execution like a 3.5 lol. I'm hoping as you put it "meteor infected are people too" is just misstep and never to be mentioned again. Just one more thing before I finish this comment. When I was watching and then when I wrote about the episode I couldn't put into words what I felt was missing or off but I think you said it best here:

I think one of the first things that occurs to me about this episode was that I missed some of the lightness and humor that the show has had over the last few episodes.

When I read it I was like "yeah that's exactly it!" Smallville's been fun except for Toxic ;-) so far and this episode wasn't really.
jeannev
Oct. 26th, 2008 01:42 am (UTC)
Definitely, the good ideas were there in the episode. But the execution just wasn't all it could be.

Its not an easy thing, balancing light eps, and heavy, dark eps. Especially for writers who aren't exactly the top of the class. The shift here was a bit abrupt, and extreme. I'm not against them having eps of both flavors, but I did sort of miss the levity of the previous weeks. I have a feeling that this sort of ep is going to be more the norm for the upcoming eps. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
bradygirl_12
Oct. 27th, 2008 01:58 am (UTC)
Hmm, I'd say they will be going darker as Doomsday episodes are pretty depressing! SV has always been darker than the usual mythos, anyway, though DC seems bound and determined to make Superrman 'darker' after the success of the Batman movies, and the comics are pretty much drenched in blood in recent years, and Final Crisis (which I don't spend my money on, ugh) is destroying everything and trumpeting evil's triumph. Bleah.

Davis' black-outs since he was a kid must be connected to his eventual transformation into Doomsday, which is different from the comics, I've heard. He must be possessed by Doomsday, or is some kind of hybrid or something as he's clearly fighting SOMETHING inside himself.

If SV is picked up for a 9th season, we can expect a HUGE cliffhanger this May!
jeannev
Oct. 27th, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
Yeah, I guess its inevitable that as the Davis arc continues, things are going to get much darker. *sigh*, I was appreciating the levity. I think the show has been unrelentingly dark and dreary for the last few seasons, and I was looking for it to lighten up a bit. Not turn into Happy, Silly Land, but at least strike up a better balance.

And I'm really hoping SV isn't picked up for a 9th season. I really don't want that cliffhanger, and I also really want TW to spread his wings and do other things. Not that I don't love seeing him on my TV weekly, but I think the time has come to bring down the curtain.
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tariel22
Nov. 3rd, 2008 04:11 am (UTC)
I'm inexcusably late here, but I'm trying to catch up a bit.

I know I liked this episode better than you did, but we really agreed on almost everything. I loved reading your outrage all through your review, I was nodding my head the whole time.

If the group at Isis was composed of a gardening club, and one of its members was murdered directly after leaving the club, chances are the police would want to question them as well... I don't know, call me a nazi, or whatever, but I just didn't see the horrendous violation of civil rights that took place here.

Absolutely! And as you also say, Clark only gave the list to MM anyway. I really think Chloe was so out of line, both in the DP scene and the one at Isis. She seemed more like Lana than Chloe in a lot of ways, with her self-righteous attitude and her unfounded insults and accusations. Someone needs to tell S&P that we don't want or need another Lana, thank you very much! Sheesh.

I do think Tom did his best to give Clark nobility even as he struggled in this episode. His body language was all about being in command, and resolute, and believing in himself, even though he was chagrined at being too late. He never looked mopey or defeated. Clark didn't beat himself up as he has in past seasons, he just acknowledged the obstacles he was facing, and expressed his determination to overcome them. And as you pointed out, his apology at the end was tempered by his reminder that he was, after all, right. He just came off stronger than he's been in the past, and more sure of himself, I thought, and it was a difference I appreciated. And I credit Tom for that, both in his acting and in the leadership I'm sure he's displaying on set.

All in all, we're still leaps and bounds ahead of S7 when it comes to Clark's characterization, right? :)

ETA: I'm so sorry, I forgot to say thank you for the stats! I'm happy with the amount of time Clark was onscreen for an episode that focused so much on Davis. I hope we see MM come back for more!

Edited at 2008-11-03 04:16 am (UTC)
jeannev
Nov. 3rd, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)
All in all, we're still leaps and bounds ahead of S7 when it comes to Clark's characterization, right? :)

Without a doubt! A very miniscule quibbles here and there, but overall? Its been an AMAZING season for Clark thus far. And isn't that the point of the show, after all?

I think Chloe was written like Lana in a lot of ways in Prey, and not in a good way. Some characterizations just suit Lana as a character much better. To see them on Chloe just doesn't feel right.

And I totally agree with you on how Tom played Clark. Much stronger, much more confident, much more steady and sure. Even in questioning his own behavior at the end, he didn't really abandon his original position. He just lamented his methods, and how that may have hurt his friend. It was a major shift.
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