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AlMiles and their Mummy

It's not  a secret to anyone thats relatively familiar with me that I'm no fan of Al Gough or Miles Millar.  In fact, I dislike Millar, and completely loathe and detest Gough (apologies to the one AlMiles defender on my flist).  So, I was just smiling ear-to-ear when I read this review of The Mummy 3 at AICN (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37726).  Hee Hee Hee!!!  I always love a little AlMiles bashing, but it comes as an especially good time after hearing some very disturbing things about the gruesome twosome's attitude towards Tom.  And I trust the source.  

May AlMiles have the sort of mediocre career that their talent and attitude so richly deserves. 

ETA:  Here's another one that mentions their shitty script specifically

*Cackles with evil glee!!*



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Aug. 1st, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)

OMG..that was a relentless bad review. I'm not a big AlMiles fan either, so harm done here.

What I've always wondered is why in the hell would the creators of SV not bother to have a healthy, decent relationship with your main character who happens to also be SUPERMAN for crying out loud!!

I seldom hear criticisms of Tom. So without revealing any personal info from your source, why do you think they were so hard on him??

Aug. 1st, 2008 01:00 am (UTC)
Their problem seems to have started when Tom decided that he had some problems with the direction of the show and decided to talk to AlMiles about it. Apparently they didn't take it well...

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Aug. 1st, 2008 12:58 am (UTC)
it comes as an especially good time after hearing some very disturbing things about the gruesome twosome's attitude towards Tom

Care to share (privately, of course)? Inquiring minds and fans who only frequent one fandom source want to know!
Aug. 1st, 2008 01:04 am (UTC)
Nah, it should be OK to say here. Coming from a source I trust, apparently AlMiles' attitude is that they "made" Tom, since he was a newcomer with not a lot of experiance when they hired him. And it seems that when Tom dared to question the direction the show was going in (these confrontations seem to have come in S6, and a bigger issue in S7), AlMiles were flabbergasted that he would dare to have an opinion, and actually voice it to them. Nice, eh? But it certainly does explain the almost complete lack of acknowledgement and credit, doesn't it?

BTW, I'm not telling anyone they have to believe this, I'm just saying that I trust the source and I believe it.
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Aug. 1st, 2008 01:09 am (UTC)
Gough and Millar too a story that had a lot of potential and killed it. Then after they ruined it, they LEFT. Or they were fired ... depends on who you want to believe. They get no love from me.

That review was funny. Dude, they're doing Hannah Montana movies ... those two aren't going anywhere.

Poor Tom. I can't believe Dawn Ostraff even would consider a 9th season ... after all he has put up with, I wouldn't blame him if he ran away screaming. :\

I have hopes for next season though (yes, I'm still crazy and optimistic but the spoilers look good). ;D
Aug. 1st, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
I don't think they were fired. I do believe they left in a dispute over money. I think thats a true story. And while PS3 might be sorry to see them go (and even that doesn't sound entirely convincing), I have a feeling the cast and crew in Vancouver weren't shedding any tears.

Dawn is a desperate woman. If the CW even survives into next season, she might go for anything that someone, anyone, will watch. Though I suspect she'd prefer some bullshit, teeny-bopper soap to doing anything Smallville, or superhero related. After all, that stuff is icky because boys might like it!

In any case, I don't think Tom is signing up for a S9.
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Aug. 1st, 2008 01:14 am (UTC)
*giggles* Those quotes sound exactly like Almiles' sense of humor.

I'd heard some stuff happened with Tom. It probably explains the lack of recognition that he gets.
Aug. 1st, 2008 01:22 am (UTC)
Well, why should they give Tom any credit....they are responsible for his success, and the shows success, afte all...

Yeah, tell me the pieces don't start falling into place
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Aug. 1st, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
even without knowing any insider stuff at all, i was unimpressed by the way almiles didn't seem to be supporting tom. what a couple of turkeys.

Edited at 2008-08-01 01:24 am (UTC)
Aug. 1st, 2008 01:27 am (UTC)
Thats a good point. Even if there was no rumored friction at all, there can be no denying that their attitude towards Tom kinda sucks. And I've yet to see a different attitude from PS3, but we'll see...
Aug. 1st, 2008 01:50 am (UTC)
I'd be interested to hear more details about what issues Millar/Gough had with Tom if you got 'em.

However, I wonder if it explains why the JLA film rumors were flying about with Tom (you know, signing, not signing, etc), but it doesn't surprise me that their career seems to be heading south.

I was willing to keep an open mind about the Mummy film, but I had my doubts about it when Rachel Weisz didn't sign back up for Evie. Usually a sign the film's script sucks pond scum. The critics have almost universally panned the film.

I wonder why they bothered to screen it for critics....

Aug. 1st, 2008 02:04 am (UTC)
Sorry, details I don't have :( Just the gist of things. Seems that AlMiles, but particularly Al, and Tom disagreed on a number of show-related issues. And since Al, in particular, believes he's responsible for Tom having success on the show, he also seemed to believe that meant Tom should shut up and not question him and do as he's told. Which I believe is what happened, judging by S6/7, but I also think it left a ton of bad feelings in its wake.

Oh, knowing AlMiles, they probably think the film is a masterpiece and terribly witty. They're probably just lamenting that they weren't able to get a love triangle in there somewhere. ;)
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Aug. 1st, 2008 02:02 am (UTC)
Wow! Of course, I had to go to the website and read the info again for myself. I'm kind of in shock, but at the same time, I'm not surprised at all. I think it does explain a lot- Tom's lack of promoting the show, etc...Ugh! From everthing I've read or heard about Tom, I doubt he pulled some diva fit either. It probably started out as a calm, rational discussion type thing. Unfortunately, AlMiles are apparently not rational people.
I completely disagree with the idea that they "made" Tom. I forget where I read it, but Judd Apatow was quoted somewhere saying that even after having Tom on his short-lived show "Undeclared" with barely 1 line, he knew this guy was going places. Then there was "Judging Amy" where they extended the "Karate Rob" storyline for an extra 3 episodes, just because of how great of a response they got about Tom. I don't think it was all about "the pretty" either. Even if he was as gorgeous as he is, but couldn't act his way out of a paper bag, I doubt he'd get all of the glowing reviews from his co-stars that he does. Ironically, your source happens to think that he's not such a great actor, which I just don't understand, but that's besides the point...
My theory is that AlMiles got LUCKY. They happened to snatch up an up and coming talented actor who would have been famous and well-known and respected with or without those self-righteous hacks.
The rest of the post mentions how AM got such a "sweet deal" when she renegotiated her contract. Do you know if that's just a money thing or is it something else? I don't know what else it could be...a personal masseuse, maybe? :-)
Off-topic, but I really hope that Tom gets to direct again this season.
Okay, I'm done ranting. Thanks for posting the info. AlMiles can sucks it!
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:12 am (UTC)
Well, thats one of my favorite things about that source...she's not a Tom fangurl at all. She seems to like him very much as a person, and she thinks he's a great director, but she's not that impressed with his acting and she doesn't drool over him.

If Tom was pulling diva fits, other actors wouldn't be praising him. They just wouldn't mention much about him. And certainly seasoned actors that have been around wouldn't praise him, as they likely have no tolerance for that primadonna bullshit. Yet, Rutger Hauer, Michael Ironside, Bonnie Hunt, James Marsters, AOT, John Schneider all have nice things to say about Tom.

The thing is that AlMiles did give Tom a big opportunity. But its the type of role where you have to deliver, or you are likely to crash and burn. Its not as though AlMiles has gifted Tom with great writing year after year.

I know nothing about AM's contract aside from what was said by the set insider. But judging by the spoilers, and the "I'm super important!" attitude, I'm guessing that they gave AM a sweet deal. And hey, why shouldn't she got for that? Thats the nature of the business.
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Aug. 1st, 2008 02:21 am (UTC)
Apparently, Gough and Millar find the word "mummy" hilarious, because someone yells some sort of ejaculation incorporating the word "mummy" every 10 minutes, without fail.

I almost want to go see it now just so I can count how many times the word "mummy" is said.
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:25 am (UTC)
LOL. I find myself curious about the tacky sexual metaphors myself. Ah, AlMiles, you're so special.
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Aug. 1st, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
Sorry, LOL Hey, maybe its not so bad. Forewarned is forearmed. Or something like that. And Michelle Yeoh does rock seriously hard.

Even if I never heard a bad rumor about AlMile, their own interviews and comments would make them loathe-worthy to me. The 2 of them just come off as jackasses.

Michael and Kristin both bolting when they have the chance says something to me. As does AOT walking out the door and apparently not even entertaining the possibility of coming back.

Despite all this, I was just thinking today how I'm a little more hopeful about this upcoming season. Lengthy thoughts I'll continue in my LJ rather than wasting space in yours.

Actually, me too. And I'll be sure to stop over and give my lengthy thoughts to your lengthy thoughts. Its funny, because I had actually considered continuing this post with SV spoiler talk, but I find I'm having a hard time starting a conversation on the spoilers. Its weird. :|
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Aug. 1st, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
I'm imagining you twirling a mustache. LOL
Aug. 1st, 2008 03:03 am (UTC)
Definitely. While maniacally laughing, and sticking pins in my Al and Miles dolls. LOL
Aug. 1st, 2008 05:12 am (UTC)
Why, how dare Tom question the vision of AlMiles! *rolls eyes*
Seriously. After what we've been subjected to in s6 and s7, I think Tom had every right to complain. Clark's been totally sidelined in his own, and they've totally forgotten he's the main character. I'm rewatching s7 on the CW, and I'm still trying to figure out exactly what Clark's supposed to be doing this season. I'm not at all surprised to find out about AlMiles' superior attitude. And the talk about Ollie taking over the show and even entertaining the notion of a season nine just proves to me how utterly forgetable they consider Clark/TW. *shakes fists*

I am amused by the bad review, too. :)
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
The bad review is hilarious! I know AICN is notoriously rough, but thats just so funny. AlMiles suck!

I also see no reason at all why Tom shouldn't be able to verbalize if he has a problem with how they are writing his character. He's been playing him a long time, and I've always felt Tom had a pretty good grasp of what this character should be. Much better then AlMiles, thats for sure. But I remember Stephen DeKnight saying that Tom almost never, ever complained. So, maybe when he finally did speak up, AlMiles weren't expecting to be challenged by him? Or, maybe they are just douchebags. LOL

But it seems clear to me that the attitude passed down from AlMiles to the new writers is that Clark is just another character on this show, and Tom is just one of the actors. As though he's not that important at all, or in any way responsible for the success of the show. The attitude seems to be "Oh yeah, that guy...", when they can bother to remember him at all.
Aug. 1st, 2008 08:28 am (UTC)
I couldn't hate/dislike/despise AG/MM more even if I tried! I'll be happy if every single thing they do flops. That's exactly what they deserve from my perspective. I won't ever forgive what they've done to a show I used to love, how they've ruined it to the point of making it practically unendurable to me. And of course I won't forget or forgive their disrespect not only of their main actor, but of such an iconic character as Clark Kent/Superman.
They never cared about Clark Kent/Superman (they did SV because they couldn't do a Batman series)and it shows. As for Tom, I'm amazed that he's been able to deliver so much considering who the showrunners were and how they treated him. And sadly AG/MM minions seem to be following their steps.
I won't comment on the spoilers because there'd be a lot of bashing involved and I don't really want to care about SV to that extent anymore. That the, supposedly, last season of SV may turn into a showcase/trial for a possible spin-off... That there may be actors who are even encouraged to consider their characters more relevant and significant than Clark, that the showrunners can even think and talk about a SV without Tom... There are so many unbelievable and infuriating things... No, I refuse to let SV make me miserable anymore.
I just hope Tom can walk free from SV as soon as possible.

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Aug. 1st, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
I hate them too Carol. Especially Al. I just want to punch him in his face. There's just something about him that rubs me completely wrong, and that would be even if I hadn't heard some of the behind the scenes stuff.

I hope Tom gets a relatively last good year from SV, and then gets to walk away on a high note. Then I hope he decided to stay in show biz and in front of the camera, because something tells me he may not.
Aug. 1st, 2008 11:38 am (UTC)
UGH. Why I am I not suprised> They never wanted to do a superman origins story rather they wanted a batman one, and it does show. They wrote the script for Spiderman 2 as I recall and the feedback I got was so bad I didn't go to see it.
And they didn't 'make' Tom. I saw him in 'judging Amy,' and he had talent already. And I also saw him in that...short science-fiction 'nightwatch' type thing and his comedic timeing just cracked me up. They gave him his break. That's all.
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think its pretty obvious that AlMiles never had any great love for the Superman character. The new showrunners seem a bit better on that score, but we'll see.

I'm not sure what drives the arrogance towards Tom specifically. Maybe its just a clash of personalities.
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Aug. 1st, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
I was travelling to uni by bus today, and caught a review of the movie on the morning news and when the reviewer said it wasn't worth watching, I was on cloud nine. Bwah. Take that, losers!
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:46 pm (UTC)
Isn't it awesome? I mean, I like Brendan Fraser, Jet Li, Michelle Yeoh, etc. So, I don't wish anything bad on them. But when you hire AlMiles to do your script, you reap what you sow.
Aug. 1st, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
//May AlMiles have the sort of mediocre career that their talent and attitude so richly deserves.//

Ha! Indeed. ;-) I believe this movie hasn't gotten a single favorable review---not that I know of anyway. The bf still wants to watch it though, and I'm finding it difficult to articulate (in anything that makes sense that is, heh) my deep dislike for Goughlar---

I figure he's going to have to venture this one on his own!
Aug. 1st, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean. You get to a point where you're just so frustrated with their obnoxiousness and attitude and UGH!...

Thankfully, we won't have to read anymore of their SV comments.
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