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Tom as the Big Screen Superman

And the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...

It seems that rumors about Tom being involved in the upcoming JLA movie, and possibly being involved in a future reboot of the Superman movies, continue to circulate.  Not to the same degree as before, but enough that I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss.  I'm going to say off the bat that I'm not going to link to every rumor that I refer to.  Thats too much work, LOL

But, since I am going to repost some stuff, best to keep it under the cut

Type your cut contents here.

I think almost all of us thought that the rumor about Tom being involved with the JLA movie was a dead issue.  But the fact does remain that a Superman has yet to be named for the cast of this movie.  And while sources seem to differ about the status of this movie (Robert Sanchez at IESB has claimed that its likely to be delayed, if not permenantly shelved), it does seem that parts of the production do seem to be proceeding, i.e. sets, costumes, etc.  

So, really, all we know for sure is that we don't know anything for sure.  LOL  How incredibly bizarre for a movie set to go before the cameras in less then a month.

A few days ago, a poster named emijayne who claims to have insider contacts posted this information on the IESB JLA thread (
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=216&func=view&catid=13&id=6009#6009 )

They mentioned they got the news of Routh not returning several weeks ago from WB people and promised not to be the ones to say anything. Well, I got the same news back in late November with a bit more detail than what they said. I was also told that no casting announcement was made on Nov 18th because of the writer's strike. Not because it affected the script but because it stood the chance of freeing up a certain person of interest about 2 months early from his filming commitments which it has officially done so the wait seems to have paid off. The constant "No comments" and lack of denials were due to ongoing (and still going) negotiations with Tom Welling. He supposedly has discussed this with a close friend and was told that it is already too late to avoid being typecast and he should go where the money is or risk ending up with no career after Smallville. He is apparently giving this serious thought. Does it mean he will sign?? Not necessarily but it does mean there is still a lot of hope left.

This was followed up with the announcement from Sancez at IESB that the movie was in trouble, and had a cast 100% locked that was perceived to be mediocre, and the movie will be delayed and might fall through.

More converstion ensued, with emijayne claiming that she had contacted some people, and from what she was hearing, production was proceeding and the cast wasn't 100% locked.

(I should clarify that I like emijayne, and she certainly seems to know something, but I can in no way vouch for her accuracy or authenticity).

Well then, up pops another anonymous source who posted on a blog using the name "Uncle Bingo"  (
http://singerssupermansucks.blogspot.com/ )

Uncle Bingo said...
LR is much closer to the truth than AICN. Singer is gone, he's basically signed on with UA full time now. He wont do any further Superman movies or even WB movies for the foreseeable future. Details of settling his "pay or play" deal with WB are being finished up. With that, Routh, Spacey, Bosworth and Co as well as the pseudo-Donner continuity are all gone with him. WB wants nothing further to do with that continuity. They want a complete reboot that stays truer to the post-crisis comics and will put butts in the seats (i.e. more action). They're paying attention big time to how the new Hulk does this summer as a barometer.

As for the new Superman, LR was right that it will likely be the guy that plays him in JLA, provided of course, that movie has the right profit %'s going for it. Welling was the original choice and some expected a deal to be made (right around the time IESB broke the story) but he couldn't get out from under the thumb of the show's producers, even though they were offered compensation, so he was nixed. A second candidate was agreed upon in some capacity shortly before the WGA struck. Its one of the other rumored names you've all heard (that I cant mention at risk of completely outing myself since very few people know this suffice it to say its a BAD choice). There was even a set casting announcement scheduled around Thanksgiving.

However once it became evident that the WGA strike was going to go for the long haul, this actor then in effect became "Plan B." The studio now wanted to play a waiting game to see how long the strike would last b/c if it goes past a certain point, Welling then shakes free of his commitment to the Smallville producers and WB feels they can snag him for the role in JLA and perhaps beyond without having to pay the Smallville producers a cent.

The whole delay in a casting announcement for JLA, which is now a little over a month away from beginning filming, is due to WB waiting to see who their Superman is going to be. "Plan B" guy is all set and ready to go and has even been on a training regimen and fitted for a costume at WETA. However, WB REALLY wants Welling because he's the more marketable name and has a large following the spans multiple demographics and will appeal to more fans.

The drop dead point for Smallville to cancel the rest of their season is fast approaching in the next few days. (Obviously the strike isnt ending anytime soon so thats more a "when" than an "if" at this point). Once that happens, Welling and the rest of the cast become free agents for the duration of the strike or if the strike ends than until late next July when an 8th Smallville season would start, giving Welling ample time to film the movie.

Granted, they still need to sign him once Smallville goes into hibernation but iIve been told WB isnt messing around and has a big time offer out there for him, as well as offers for other films to help alleviate any type-casting concerns. From what I was told, "he'd be an utter fool, to say 'No' to that."

For clarification purposes, LR=LatinoReview who reported that Singer and Routh were off the Superman movies, and AICN=Ain't It Cool News who reported that Routh was still The Man of Steel.  Like I said, dueling sources *cue banjo music*

It had occured to me that emijayne and Uncle Bingo could be one in the same, but emi claims otherwise.  Like I said before, I tend to believe her.


Could this be true?  I have to ask myself these questions....

Does it sound plausible?  To me, Yes, it does.  Very much so in fact.  I do believe that Welling would've immediately come up for consideration.  I do believe that goughlar would prevent Tom from taking this role if it interfered with their SV plans.  I do believe WB would look at the WGA strike as another opportunity to evaluate their JLA cast.  All of that sounds plausible.  But is it true?

Also, we know some truths....a cast was supposed to be announced, and it never was.  No actor has been announced for the Superman role, or even testing for the Superman role (the rumored Scott Porter claims he read for the role of The Flash).  Smallville production will come to an end this month, freeing Tom up for a film role.  Kristin Kreuk has already committed to a film that starts in March, which would indicate the cast has already been given the green light to look for other work.  The WGA will not be solved this month, which means SV is done for the season.

All of that is fact, or just about fact.

Also claimed by emijayne is that Welling's people respond to any inquires about these latest developments with "no comment".  Well, thats helpful LOL

But lets assume all of this is true for a second.  What do you want Welling to do?  What do you think he might be inclined to do?   See, thats the thing with Welling...he's an enigma, wrapped in a mystery, with a side of fries.  He hasn't done an American interview in over a year.  He shuns publicity altogether.  What could he be thinking?  This sort of thing would be a longterm commitment (probably 8 yrs min, maybe more).  It would also require him to participate actively in promotion.  One doesn't get cast as a big screen Superman then turn into the Yeti, with scattered sightings of him fleeing the camera.  Tom will have to join the dog and pony show. Lock, stock and red tights.  No question of that.  Would he be willing to?

Now, what do I want him to do.  Well, first and foremost, I want him to WORK!  I want to see him in something else besides Smallville.  And I'd love and adore to see him take on the mantle of Superman without the moronic goughlar writing the journey.  I honestly believe Tom has the looks, talent and charisma to break out on the big screen.  All he needs is the opportunity.  And this would be a huge opportunity.

But then there's the dreaded typecast issue.  Is he typecast already?  7 years of television's Clark Kent may already have done whatever damage its going to do to his career.  But certainly moving the role onto the big screen is accepting that, and wading even further into the typecast pool.  If "Uncle Bingo" is right, and WB is offering him other movies as an incentive, then that certainly does seem to make the deal very appealing.  

And then there's always the question of how much Welling wants the limelight.  Does he even want to continue an acting career?  Would be prefer directing?  Or might he chose to eschew the biz altogether?  Only the enigmatic Welling could tell us, and he's certainly not talking at the moment.

And hey, how about rumor of Tom being considered for a role in a Lolita remake?  Thats...unusual.  But as always, Tom being considered for big screen fame makes me Happy!



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Jan. 9th, 2008 06:43 pm (UTC)
I had that same exact thought. This could definitely give him the leverage to get into directing if thats his true passion. Another thing he'd need to consider.
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Jan. 9th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
One thing that makes me wonder about all this is TW's condition. Uncle Bingo mentions that the plan B guy is in training for the part. Is TW really in good enough shape to don the costume in only a month? I'm not saying TW is fat, or out of shape, or anything like that. On the contrary, his biceps and chest look pretty toned to me right now. Even so, the man works twelve-hour days, and I don't know if he's had time for a really serious training regimen. And the problem with Superman is, it's a skintight suit, and the guy they cast HAS to be in really excellent shape. Will they cast TW if he has to be in front of cameras in a month and doesn't have enough time to do some serious weightlifting?

Otherwise, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but not really letting myself hope. It seems to me that "Uncle Bingo" could have based most of this on EmiJayne's stuff and just tossed in some other random details to make it seem like insider info (and to discredit Robert's totally opposite info). I'd love to see TW as Superman. Love it. But I'm still not thinking it's likely to happen.

If I'm wrong, though, I'll happily throw a party:-).
Jan. 9th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
I think Tom could probably snap into some awesome shape in a pretty short period of time, if only because I think he's already in great shape. All he would need to do is a bit of toning and definition. Its a lot easier to get to that point when you are already starting off looking like Tom Welling does now, LOL But yeah, definitely, he'd need to throw himself into a wicked regiment. Could he do it? I think its possible.

I know what you mean about not getting my hopes up. Its sort of like employing the same strategy I use when watching Smallville...Hope for the Best, Expect the Worst. LOL

And if you're wrong, I'll attend that party, and bring the booze. ;)
Jan. 9th, 2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure ellyfanfic has much to worry about, Tom has done some training during the season and he would be ready to suit up down in Australia...

Anyway, Tom is looking more trim this year than he has in the past couple of seasons so I think he's stressing the cardio lately and perhaps working on definition.

However, I'd personally like to see proof of that in Smallville. Clark should take his shirt off from time to time, dammit.

I adore Tom and I want him to work in front of the camera as much as possible so I hope he gets work in front of the camera, but I think he'd be realistic about his chances as a director. He will have a lot more pull to get directing gigs once he's proved his value as an actor first.

He could have a career like George Clooney, who is like in several ways, where he initially got jobs because of his looks but people are keeping him employed because of his talent. However, mobiusklein is right: he could parlay a career like that into a directing one like Cloony, Jodie Foster and Mel Gibson have done. He could afford to take chances as a director if he can pay the bills as an actor doing more popular fare.

I really hope Bingo and emijayne are correct....

*crosses fingers*

I really want him to get as much work as possible and I think that doing JLA could ease the transition into film work for him in many, many ways... it'd make it easier if they give him a multipicture deal that guarentees work outside the tight wearing kind of roles, but if he proves his bankability it'll make people sit up and take notice and that will help him outside Warners.

I'm all for him getting the part.

Jan. 9th, 2008 06:58 pm (UTC)
"Anyway, Tom is looking more trim this year than he has in the past couple of seasons so I think he's stressing the cardio lately and perhaps working on definition."

I do think he looks good (though it is hard to tell, since they never take his shirt off *sigh*). It's the definition that worries me. Under a suit like that, the muscles need a lot of definition. Maybe they could shoot around him and give him two months to tone up, I dunno. I would think that would be enough time...

"I really want him to get as much work as possible and I think that doing JLA could ease the transition into film work for him in many, many ways..."

Me too. As much as I'd like to see him in the suit, I just really want him to get noticed. I want him to be a big star. I think the JLA movie could be a great first step. So I'd love to see it happen. I just don't dare hope:-).
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Jan. 9th, 2008 06:53 pm (UTC)
>And I'd love and adore to see him take on the mantle of Superman without the moronic goughlar writing the journey.

oh, yes, that would be wonderful! goughlar, feh...

whatever tom does, i hope it works out very well for him. i want him to be happy and successful, with emphasis on the "happy"! still, i'd so like to see him as Superman.
Jan. 9th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
I think goughlar undervalue him terribly, and I think they've done a crap job of writing a young Superman story. I truly believe that Tom's success as Clark Kent is mostly due to the efforts of Tom himself.
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Jan. 9th, 2008 07:12 pm (UTC)
I know precisely how you feel.

Thats why I'm focusing on the plausible side of things, and speculating on the "what if's". I don't dare allow myself to go beyond that point.
Jan. 9th, 2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
Just for everyone's info, emijayne has started a blogspot:


Nothing there yet, but it's something to keep an eye on, particularly if she turns out to be right about all this:-).
Jan. 9th, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I'm going to bookmark that. She's entertaining, if nothing else.
Jan. 9th, 2008 07:26 pm (UTC)
I just want him to continue working. If WB really is offering up other projects to quell any fear of typecasting (which I do think is an issue - it's one thing to be Clark Kent on a TV series, it's quite another to be Superman in a major motion picture) then I agree he'd be silly to say no. Even if he does want to move in a more directorial position, I don't think he's in much of a position of clout right now to get there immediately post-Smallville, given that he's only got two episodes of experience in that capacity. Like mobiusklein says, taking a WB offer would very likely help him in that area.

As for his seeming desire for privacy, well, he may have to give that up a little to get what he wants. He did do publicity at the beginning of Smallville, and I believe he also did some for his other movies, so perhaps it's just the malaise of having to answer the same questions about the same show that's got him clamming up. New projects to talk about might make him more willing to make himself available. Of course, bigger roles mean more exposure and he strikes me as someone who might be willing to sacrifice a big pay day to keep himself out of the media spotlight.
Jan. 9th, 2008 11:35 pm (UTC)
I agree that my top priority as a Tom fan is for him to keep working. I really want the chance to see him in other shows/movies. I think he has a lot to offer, and he can only demonstrate so much on SV with the constraints of character, and setting.

I also agree that Tom did do publicity for the first few years of SV. As time has gone on, I'm sure he gets bored as hell with the same questions ("are you going to fly?" "will you wear the suit?"). But I also believe that something happened somewhere in S6 to cause him to go from publicity-shy in regards to SV, to total lockdown. I have my suspicions. ;)

So yeah, he might be OK with the big publicity push for a new project that he really believes in. We might have him pegged all wrong.
Jan. 9th, 2008 07:39 pm (UTC)
TW ::needs:: to be on the big screen. Period. Not only do I think he's a really good actor, I moreover feel he has that real "big movie star" sheer presence, so to speak.

I don't know how much stock to put into any of these rumors but I certainly hope there is way more than a grain of salt in it all. I think TW has the chops to pull off a big screen Supes. I would love to see him in the role. I know typecasting is always a issue, but I just dont see it with TW. He seems to be a focused sort of person, and as you and others have already pointed out, he also seems very much interested in the field of directing. I can see a varied sort of career ahead for this man, one that would please not only him, but his fans also. I can see him wanting to, at the very least, looking up opportunities for interesting and satisfying roles and projects.

Utimately, big screen Supes, IMO, would only be a feather in his cap, and he would do tremendous justice to the role. It would be fantstic seeing him in The Suit - such a payoff for fans.

As for Lolita, really? They're remaking that? Hmm. Not sure how I feel about that.
Jan. 9th, 2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure if Tom needs to be on the big screen, or *I* need him to be on the big screen. And it should all be about me! LOL

I do believe he can be versatile. Just the fact that he'd been able to shift into bad, scary mode so easily, while playing a role like Clark Kent, does show some flexibility in his performance. And I have no doubt at all he could do comedy. So, he shouldn't have to be typecast. But, who can say?

The new Lolita movie seems very, very loosely based on the original story. I'm not sure thats the project I'd want for him, but it sure would be a departure.
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Jan. 9th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
I agree with you completely, that the narrative supplied by emijayne and Uncle Bingo sounds quite plausible. I'm also trying very hard not to get my hopes up, because I was really surprised by how very disappointed I was when the general news was that he wasn't going to be in JLA... I hadn't realized how much I was invested in it happening. So I'm playing it very, very carefully!

I think, however, if Uncle Bingo's story is true, it all comes down to Tom Welling, and what he wants out of his career from this point on. It's an incredible window of opportunity, and probably a very brief one. In one business deal, he'd be given the chance to lead the cast in a major motion picture and have a (probably carefully contractually delineated) number of other roles developed for him, unrelated to the tights, which is the best chance possible for avoiding typecasting. If directing is where he wants to go, JLA would give him a great chance to learn (and we've been told that he soaks up knowledge like a sponge) by working with and observing George Miller. Whether he's known for "Happy Feet" or "Mad Max," with "The Witches of Eastwick" in between, Miller is a director who has a huge range, and the opportunity to learn would be immeasurable.

The payoff, of course, for all these factors that would make the decision seem to be a no-brainer, would be that he'd have to give in to the celebrity thing — he'd have to become a Movie Star. It's one of the things that I admire most about him, that he actively shuns a lifestyle that the majority of Hollywood pursues with both hands. I have to think that if Uncle Bingo's account is true (note the big, big "if" there!), and TW turns down the role, it'll be because of a serious decision about where he wants to take his life and career. Because I can't help but feel that if WB is pulling out the stops to get him, and dangling all these carrots, and he still says no? He'd be closing a window, and probably deliberately so.

If this is indeed how it's all playing out, I hope he makes the choice I want him to make, just because I'm selfish, and I want to see my Superman in big, beautiful widescreen. But judging from his past behavior, it could go either way, and he could decide to take his Smallville millions and retire.

Jan. 9th, 2008 11:44 pm (UTC)
I'm really trying to keep my thoughts very much away from the overly hopeful. Because thats just a recipe for disappointment. Instead, I'm just concentrating on how likely this whole story is. And I can't find too many holes in it.

Of course, that doesn't ultimately mean anything since people can and do spin tall tales on the 'net.

I also believe that, *if* this is true, and Tom still says No, then this is a decision that might be deciding his entire future in this business. And I think he's smart enough to know that.

But then again, maybe we are overstating it. I mean, actors turn things down all the time, and maybe its not such a big deal? Its possible, right? And execs are always turning over at the big studios, so maybe harsh feelings today are forgotten in a year? So, maybe him turning it down is simply that, an actor turning down a role. No harm, no foul. I hope..
Jan. 9th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
My main concern with him being Supes on the big screen isn't necessarily that he'll be type-cast; it's that the movie might be terrible. I haven't really heard anything positive about this movie since all of the buzz started. It's one thing for a well-established movie star to have one or two flops, but TW? Even though he's been in 3 movies, his main thing is still "Smallville". A flop right around the time the series is coming to a close isn't going to be a good thing at all. But who knows? The entire movie could blow chunks, but reviewers might give TW high praise.

Personally, I think he should take the deal with the WB even though the JLA movie could be risky. If the other WB movies are good enough, they just might overshadow the JLA if its bad.

And honestly? I don't think he'll quit entertainment business. He seems to love acting and directing, and I can't imagine from the way he describes acting (akin to taking a big swing in golf and getting the chance "to do something great", according to the JA interview), and going so far as to take acting lessons that he could just give it up. He seems to have found his calling.

As for the Lolita thing, I think it's either going to be good or bad. If it has the right people behind it and the right casting choices (other than TW, of course), then I think it could do wonders for his career. As for me, I'd really like to see what he'd do with the role.
Jan. 10th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
Thats actually another good point...will this JLA movie be any good? If rumors are correct about a 21 yr old Batman, I have my doubts. Though Adam Brody as The Flash, and Common as Green Lantern aren't bad choices. And does anyone really care who plays Aquaman? LOL But I think that ultimately how good or bad this film is may be determined by how well the Big 3 do, meaning Supes, Batman and Wonder Woman.

But with any movie job Tom takes, there's always the risk that its going to suck. I'm sure he didn't The Fog was going to be as bad as it was (though I thought he did a decent job with bad material). I guess then the question becomes whether its better to have a big budget flop, and a small budget fizzle.

And I hope you are right about Tom staying in the business. Its so hard to tell with him, but I have always gotten the impression that he enjoys the work. Everything else that comes along with it? Maybe not so much.
Jan. 10th, 2008 12:41 am (UTC)
You're very right in wondering about where Tom's head is in all this. How much does he want to break into big movie star status? Would he be willing (given his mindset about his privacy) to undergo all the stuff that will come with being in a movie like this? Let's say he does ultimately want to end up directing (it's a likely assumption) will he take the path of least resistance to this goal (ie make himself a big name actor via movies like this) or will he do it the hard way, having to find projects himself and put alot of his own finances behind it, start of with smaller, independent projects etc. I have a feeling (may be entirely wrong) that from the way Tom shuns the limelight/media/press etc that he may visualise the path of least resistance as the most difficult one in the end if his life changes so much from being in the world spotlight.

Of course I hope he does the movie, in fact I hope he ends up with a career like George Clooney's, I truly believe he has the talent both in front of and behind the camera. Yet the media is far from saturated with GC images/interviews/footage etc, I think ER was his most stressful job in terms of losing his privacy but that fades with time. I think as a famous actor you can have alot of control over the degree of privacy invasion that happens. Anyway...definitely will keep my fingers crossed but I'm not going to be too disappointed if it doesn't happen at this point. He's got Season 8 to do and then we'll see. If he disappears from our screens (TV or Film) forever that's when I'll be more than disappointed!
Jan. 10th, 2008 01:30 am (UTC)
I too can visualize Tom deciding on taking the harder road, which might make it impossible for him to accomplish what he wants, but allow him to keep his integrity and the type of lifestyle he's comfortable with. He is a Taurus, after all, and they aren't the Bull for no reason LOL Of course, they also like financial security...

OK, getting off track. LOL

And I certainly don't think its a bad idea to just concentrate on the shortterm, and not get too depressed by what might occur in the future.
Jan. 10th, 2008 01:29 am (UTC)
I, too, would love to see Tom playing Superman, but with someone else giving him worthy dialogue. Because I like him as Clark Kent, but I hate what Smallville has done to him in the last couple of years, and this way, we could hopefully get the best of all worlds.

The funny thing is, I think that Smallville's ever-waning popularity might allow him to escape being typecast. Because so many people have given up watching the show altogether remember (or choose to remember) only the first few seasons. And he is a great actor when he has good material with which to work, so if he can snag a good part, he just might step away from the Superman shadow.

Of course, if he wants to direct, he should direct, because a lot of the time, actors-turned-directors make really great and interesting directors.
Jan. 10th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)
It certainly would be like my birthday and Christmas put together to see Tom play a Clark Kent/Superman that is free of his Lana-obsession. And one thats written to be an iconic, and respected character. I'm not sure that occurs on SV regularly enough for my tastes.

And I think you might be right about the typecast. I also think this is one area where Tom flying so far under the radar will probably help him. He hasn't been in peoples faces, so there are a lot of people who have yet to discover him.
Jan. 10th, 2008 01:01 pm (UTC)
I don't think he's in any de's played many diffect aspects of Clark on the show. Kal was different from Clark, Red!K Clark was different from Clark, Silver!K (or as I like to call him the crack whore version) was different from Clark. Bizzarro was different. You get my drift.

If He wants to direct he of course should, however as you say it would be nice to see him in something else. Even if it's just another T.V series.

Oh here's a thought. You know how the Omen was re-made? what if they went the whole way and did the other two movies? He'd make a great choice for Damien when he is a grown man.....
Jan. 10th, 2008 02:24 pm (UTC)
I certainly believe he'd be incredible in that type of evil, complex role, but I doubt they would remake any of the Omen movies. The Omen remake didn't do so hot. But the concept is definitely appealing.

And yeah, I do believe Tom has has the chance to show what else he could do in those eps that Clark is OOC. Now the question is if anyone with any Hollywood juice has seen those eps. Personally, I think Transference should be requied viewing for anyone who even insinuates that Tom can't act. Idiots!
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