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TV Round-UP

Its that time again.  Time to update everyone on what I'm watching, and what I think about what I'm watching.

I'm planning another post talking about the 5 most interesting guys in series right now according to me, but thats coming later.  

Lets start with the show that will be airing tonight

Revenge

Love This Show!  And I think I really figured out what I like so much about it.  I really like the men on this show.  Not in a "Tom Welling, I want to have sex with them" sort of way (Oh, OK, I would totally have sex with Jack!).  But I just find them all interesting, and all the actors competent, and I think the show has created some interesting male characters.  And while that shouldn't be shocking, since male characters abound on television, I do think its an accomplishment for a show that is built around a female character, with another female character being closest to be the co-star.  And when you compare it to Ringer, where the male characters are a very mixed bag, it feels like something.   I guess this is my long winded way of saying that I think the characters are strong, for the most part, on this show.  Now, I'm not giving it a totally free pass, because this show does have huge gaping holes of logic that don't hold up if you look too closely (just how old would that dog be anyway?).  And the teenage characters of Declan and Charlotte are unbearable.  But, I really look forward to this show every week, and my brain is starting to spin together speculations, and desired plotlines, which is a sure sign I'm well and truly hooked.

And, oh yeah, Team Emily & Jack!

Project Runway

Oh God, who cares?  Victor is clearly the best of the final 4, but he's still a bore.  Anya is a talented designer who seems a bit one note.  Kimberly is all over the place.  And Joshua is an insufferable douchbag with lady brows.  I'm waiting for Project Runway All Stars, which I'm hearing has been pushed back until next year :(


Supernatural

OK, that episode last week?  The one with James Marsters and Charisma Carpenter?  What a waste of time!  Let me get this clear, was it supposed to be cute that these 2 witches were murdering people (horribly) because they were having a jealous snit with each other?  And please explain to me why Dean felt he had to kill Amy, in front of her kid, because she killed to save her child, but seems to have no problems walking away from these 2 who murdered 4 people, attempted to murder another, and just did it because they could.  This was clearly a throwaway episode, sacrificed to the Gods of stunt casting, which so reminds me of the mistakes Smallville made so often.  This show is very hit or miss with me this season, and Dean is working my last nerve.  Again.  I do enjoy Sam though, and Bobby always rocks!  This is feeling like maybe its time for them to fold up their tents and go home with this show.  

Once Upon A Time

I liked it.  Jennifer Morrison surprised me, as I've never thought much of her.  But she was a strong lead here, and Ginnifer Goodwin was equally good.  I like the little kid, and the concept.  So, I'll keep watching.  Now, I didn't love it.  For one thing, Lana Parilla's Evil Queen is a bit over-the-top, tilting dangerously toward camp.  And I'm not sure this show could've found a more bland Prince Charming if they tried.  I don't know, but shouldn't Prince Charming sort of blow your socks off?

Boardwalk Empire

What a fabulous season this show is having, the last episode was crazy!  Nucky and Eli having it out, Eli beating a man to death with a wrench, and most especially Jimmy and Richard scalping that old guy in the wheelchair (that will teach him to swing that cane!).  This is always a good show, though it does have weak spots.  Luckily, this past week was pretty weak spot free.  And Jack Huston's portrayal of the sad, damaged Richard Harrow is the sort of thing that should win emmys. but will likely be ignored.


The Walking Dead

Already renewed for a season 3!!  And its not wonder.  This show is such a heart pounding thrill ride.  While I didn't think the premiere was quite as good as the hype, I thought the 2nd episode was excellent.  The drama surrounding Karl is heartbreaking.  And this might actually be the first time I really, really liked Shane.  The way he dealt with Rick, the way he went to get Karl the supplies he needed?  Heroic!  and Meanwhile, back at the highway, I love how much of a leadership role Daryl is taking here.  He's having a great character arc, and I hope that continues throughout the season.  When he whipped those pills out of his saddlebag, I laughed out loud.   Great show!  


Homeland

This is a very intense show to watch.  Claire Danes is one of those actresses where you can't deny her talent, but she never comes across as very likeable (at least not in years).  But here, that quality works for her, as her Carrie Mathison is sort of a neurotic nutbag, who also happens to be good as her job.  But to me, the real revelation in this series is Damian Lewis.  His Brody is a an odd mix of sympathetic, and very creepy all rolled into one.  And Morena Baccarin is ridiculously gorgeous.


Sons of Anarchy

Oh, this show.  I can't deny how compelling it is.  Its really a soap opera, but one that takes place in the world of bikers, where people say "shit" and "dick" a lot, and there are porn actresses, and vile criminals, and lots of gory killing, etc.  But really, its a soap.  And its never been more soap-ish then this season.  The problem is though that I worry that the show is not going to follow through with the present storyline.  I worry that its going to chicken out, and keep Clay on as a viable character, when he's gone so far beyond a salvageable character.  Especially after this past week.  He cares nothing about no one, and Ron Perlman's rather flat performance doesn't help matters.  Also troubling is how little I'm liking Jax.  Sure, he keeps harping on "protecting his family", but aren't the other club members his family too?  And in his rush to make himself a nest egg so he could run off with Tara and the kids (because Jax can't be livin' off no wimmins!  Neanderthal!), did he stop to consider the shit storm he was going to be leaving to the rest of the club, namely Opie, who he decided should run the club (he didn't bother to mention this to Opie)?  It wasn't until this last weeks show that I even saw any turmoil within Jax over this decision.

So, I hope Kurt Sutter has the balls to follow through on what he started this season, and hope we see some important characters go down.  Because this shouldn't be a show where a bunch of "red shirts" are the only ones catching bullets.  

On a good note, the actors playing Opie, Bobby, Piney, Unser, Juice have never been better.


I decided not to watch Terra Nova after all, when I couldn't get past the annoying teenagers that were infecting my TV screen like a plague of locusts.  And I catch Ringer occasionally, but its so awful, I just can't make it priority television.  



Comments

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jeannev
Oct. 28th, 2011 01:45 pm (UTC)
I did see that, and you're right, they did. Well, actually I think James Marsters looks pretty good. Charisma Carpenter? Hmmm, not so much.

So, did you get a chance to watch Revenge yet? Oh, my poor Jack, though I do think it was a little early for him to be pouring out his heart like that. Still, he was darling, and thats the first time we've seen Emily choke up about anything.

I LOVED Band of Brothers so much. And I think Damian Lewis is doing such a great job of bringing the creepy factor into the role, but keeping it subtle. Homeland is definitely worth the look.
tasabian
Oct. 28th, 2011 03:41 am (UTC)
Revenge is becoming a water cooler show! Wish I hadn't started watching too late.

Jennifer Morrison surprised me, as I've never thought much of her. But she was a strong lead here, and Ginnifer Goodwin was equally good. I like the little kid, and the concept. So, I'll keep watching. Now, I didn't love it. For one thing, Lana Parilla's Evil Queen is a bit over-the-top, tilting dangerously toward camp. And I'm not sure this show could've found a more bland Prince Charming if they tried. I don't know, but shouldn't Prince Charming sort of blow your socks off?
I liked the premiere - I thought Goodwin was especially good in teacher-mode. The Evil Queen is camp indeed, as is Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin but I enjoyed both. Agree the Prince is bland but thought the Sheriff quite sexy. (Am betting he's the Wolf!)

I wish I could watch Walking Dead but I'm so squeamish. Had to cover my eyes through much of SPN this week.

Are you going to give Grimm a try? And have you seen any of American Horror Story?
jeannev
Oct. 28th, 2011 01:52 pm (UTC)
I don't think its too late to get into Revenge. Honestly, its not that complicated. I don't think its a perfect show, but its a juicy, fun show that works.

The Sheriff on OUaT definitely has possibilities. I hope we'll see more of him.

Walking Dead is definitely gory. No doubt. But its so good.

I hadn't planned on watching Grimm, but maybe. I think I'll wait for word of mouth on that.

I decided to skip American Horror Story. My dislike of Ryan Murphy, coupled with my dislike of Dylan McDermott made this a non-starter for me.
chatchien
Oct. 29th, 2011 12:57 am (UTC)
TV That I Like....
Revenge is going well for me too. I like all the characters. I do have a very tepid like for Jack's Lobster Stealing Brother and as for his girlfriend---I like her because she annoys and can play Victoria. I don't think that there are many people who can play Victoria. Or who would want to. Look what happened to Lydia. And Emily/Amanda's dad.

I liked Project Runway until that designer who kept designing clothes for women with Hottentot Butts left. After that---blah! Although Josh? with the Plucked Eyebrows did make those plaid pants that looked like a Black Hole from the Universe had opened up on the Butt of a Model and despite its massive gravity, the Black Hole couldn't quite swallow the Model's Butt. Wow! That was embarassing for the the Model. Don't show that tape around when you are going for Look Sees, honey.

Is Anya going to win this thing? I don't care anymore. She doesn't design for Big Butted Women. Though she could go into Toga making for the Greeks. That is how she makes her clothes---all drape---no tailoring.

SPN:

I said, "No, No, NO!"


I have to catch Homeland when it streams elsewhere. But I agree with you about Miss Danes. She is playing a very neurotic and unlikeable character, but I respect the character. Nice work. We, as viewers, don't much like the nominative Heroine of the show; but we do like the very possible Traitor of the show. I like this playoff.

And Mr. Lewis has never given a bad performance that I have ever seen. And I have seen a lot of them, because I know that he will always be good and fascinating to watch.

I do like Once Upon a Time. We will be seeing every character from every animated movie and regular movie that Disney has ever made. But in a new way. Works for me.

Edited at 2011-10-29 12:59 am (UTC)
jeannev
Oct. 31st, 2011 01:46 pm (UTC)
Re: TV That I Like....
OMG, those gifs! LOL

Anya has style, and talent, but she's really a one trick pony here. And I just really don't think you should be winning a clothing design competition when you can't make a sleeve or a jacket. How is that fair to the other competitors who showed much more variety in their collections?

Unfortunately, my fav, Victor, blew it on his runway show.

I definitely recommend giving Homeland a lock see. And I'll say this for Claire Danes, no actress I can think of is willing to look less attractive when she cries or gets angry. Whoa, those are some ugly faces!!

Haven't watched the newest OUaT yet.
wingster55
Oct. 29th, 2011 05:20 pm (UTC)
I plan to Hulu Once Upon a Time soon and it seems it's worth my time (very important you know)

Saw Supernatural...only the second ep I saw..but Charisma still looked really hot.
jeannev
Oct. 31st, 2011 01:47 pm (UTC)
Hey, nothing wrong with not wanting to waste your time on bad TV.
tariel22
Oct. 31st, 2011 01:38 am (UTC)
Part 1
I hope you don't mind long comments! :) I had to catch up on my TV watching before I replied to this, sorry. And I've been off of LJ for so long that my icons are hopelessly out of date. I seriously need to update them.

Revenge is one of the few shows I look forward to and insist on watching live. This week's episode was so good! I loved the contrasts. Jack's sweet, thoughtful gesture to Emily with the porch swing vs. Declan's further descent into criminal behavior (and his idiotic defense of his actions) just so he could take Charlotte out to dinner at a restaurant she's probably been to countless times already. Tyler's effective but crude manipulations vs. Emily's finesse and grace as she plays puppet master. Nolan's support of Emily, always conducted behind the safety of his computer screen and techie toys, vs. Frank's brutal, in-your-face devotion to Victoria.

I think we've reached the point where "shit just got real." With Jack's declaration (oh, Jack, too much too soon, but I love you for it), we see how much Emily's need for revenge could cost her. Nolan, who was so eager to help Emily when everything was kept at arm's length, abandoned her without hesitation after a taste of Frank's violence. Tyler, who seemed like nothing more than your typical jerk frat boy at first, is a total psycho (the gay roofie rape attempt was bad enough, but it was smashing his own head in that crossed the line for me). And Frank is the very definition of a loose cannon, and extremely dangerous. Emily is losing her cool control on this situation, and I like it.

I agree with you about the male characters. I think they're all well-defined and interesting, and I like the actors, too. Except for Declan. I hate everything about him, and he's a jarring sour note in this otherwise captivating show. I don't dislike Daniel exactly, and I find him sympathetic, but I have to say, I don't get why anyone would champion him, on his own or with Emily. Without his family's wealth and influence, he doesn't have much to offer. He's weak, and not very smart. But I'm pretty sure we're supposed to believe that Emily is truly falling for him. Me? I'm Team Jack all the way!

As things get more complicated, I'm interested to see how Emily perceives herself in comparison to people like Victoria, Frank, and Tyler. They share so much already in the way they play with other people's lives, and the deeper Emily goes, the more lines she has to cross. And what happens when Jack inevitably discovers the truth?

I've been enjoying Supernatural a lot more this season than last. I always liked Misha as Castiel, but not so much where the angel storyline ended up going, and I don't mourn its (and his) passing. I love James Marsters in everything he does (and he was awesome, as usual), and pairing him with Charisma Carpenter was fun, but I had the same reaction you did to the glaring double standard. It's true that Sam and Dean have always been pretty powerless when it comes to witches, and have never killed one on the show, but Dean didn't even seem particularly bothered by any of it. I understood why he did what he did to Amy, but the witch episode killed any sympathy I was feeling for his decision, or the emotional anguish that followed it.

I liked this week's episode a lot more. It was fun to watch, it gave us some hope for the fight against the Leviathans, Bobby was awesome, and now Crowley and the boys have a reason to team up again. Plus I liked that Sam found out the truth about what Dean did to Amy sooner rather than later, and didn't give him a pass for it.

I loved OUAT. I always liked Jennifer Morrison on House, and I like her even better here. I expected to find the fairy tale aspects silly, but so far they're working for me, and the previews I've seen of future episodes make me eager to see more. I love how Emma is already wreaking havoc in the mayor's perfectly controlled world. Ginnifer Goodwin is another favorite, as is the little boy who plays Henry. Like you, I'm completely underwhelmed by Prince Charming. I'm much more intrigued by the Sheriff, although I can't help but imagine how perfect TW would have been in the role.

Edited at 2011-10-31 01:39 am (UTC)
jeannev
Oct. 31st, 2011 01:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 1
Mind long comments?? I relish them!!!

I'm so glad you're loving Revenge as much as me. I hope it continues to be strong. Its got some issues (what show doesn't?), and its got some cast members who should be written off (Declan? Ashley?), and its got some bizarrely disconnected montage scenes. But its still really a fun show to watch.

And I sort of love Jack. A lot.

What was interesting in this episode was that Emily hadn't really put any of the things that happened in motion directly, but she's been the indirect catalyst, which I think presents another sort of moral quandry for her to consider. Nolan sort of pointed that out with Lydia's plunge, but Emily was quick to deflect blame.

I like Daniel well enough, but he's really not very deep. He's nice enough, but not very bright. Now, if the show tries to go the "she's falling for him" route, then I'm going to think they're making a mistake. Up to this point, there's been no subtle moment where we've seen that sort of emotion or hint of feeling from Emily. No shift in expression, no softening in demeanor. She puts on the show with Daniel, but no indication at all of her pining for him when he's not around. I have to think thats on purpose. Meanwhile, the only time we've seem Emily tear up has been during Jack's declaration. I don't know, I hope they don't screw this up.

And as much as I like Daniel OK, I really want his apparent death in the pilot to be for reals. And since Jack seems likely to be accused of being his killer (and we know he's not), I really think that opens up the potential for an amazing back half of the season. What will Emily do when another person she cares for is falsely accused of a crime?

I haven't watched the latest SPN or OUAT yet. But yeah, I think TW would've been good in either the Sheriff or Charming role on OUAT. *sigh*
tariel22
Oct. 31st, 2011 01:39 am (UTC)
Part 2
I keep hearing how awesome The Walking Dead is, and it's my husband's favorite show, but I can't bring myself to watch it. I can't get past the gross visuals and the gore. I can't watch horror movies either, or anything with a lot of graphic violence. Although thanks to Supernatural and Bones, I'm a little better than I used to be.

I am riveted by Homeland! I completely agree with you about Claire Danes; her character is not likable at all, but that quality is part of what makes Carrie so compelling. I like how believable the story is, how Carrie and her colleagues are obviously smart, but still misread clues and don't see everything and make human mistakes, sometimes with deadly consequences. Damien Lewis is flawless, his character a tortured, twisted mystery, who is, just as you say, sympathetic and suspect at the same time. I find myself thinking about the episodes a lot after I watch them, turning over details in my mind and wondering what will happen next.

I love how the show has such great actors, even in small roles. I watch through my fingers during the torture flashbacks. And I had a major Smallville flashback when Scabby Abby from Facade showed up as the prince's doomed girlfriend. :)

BTW, I did end up watching Person of Interest, and I actually like it. Ditto for Prime Suspect. Both of them took me by surprise.
jeannev
Oct. 31st, 2011 02:00 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 2
I won't even front, The Walking Dead is brutally gross. So, if thats something that really bothers you, I wouldn't recommend this show. Last nights show was very icky.

Homeland really sucks you in, and its strange, because usually I need a character that I really like to get into a show, and I don't really feel that connection to anyone on the show. Carrie works my last damned nerve, even though I know she's right. Damian Lewis really needs to get nominate for an Emmy with what he's doing. Amazing work!

Scabby Abby!!! Thats where I remembered her from. She looked so familiar, and I couldn't place it.

I wouldn't get too attached to Prime Suspect. I don't see that one making it much longer. But PoI seems to be doing very well.
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jeannev
Oct. 31st, 2011 02:06 pm (UTC)
Yay! Another one of my flisties likes Revenge. I'm so happy to hear it. And another one for Team Jack! I made the mistake of looking around the net to see if there were any Revenge forums, and I found a few, but didn't stay long. Already there's the shipper crap starting, and I have no use for that. Besides, I don't want to read bad stuff about my Jack. He's so adorable.

I hope they bring Lydia back, because I think Amber Valletta was doing such a good job. And its good that Emily should have people on the show that actually pose a threat, and keep her on her toes. Otherwise, its too easy.

I think Bobby has been the best thing about SPN for a few seasons now.

I hear good things about Grimm, so maybe I'll watch it this week and see what its all about.

Was Ringer on this past week? I totally forgot about it. And I totally understand the appeal of a "so bad, its good" sort of a show. Watched many of them in my time.

I sort of made a promise to myself not to watch any shows with teens as the main characters. Its bad enough that the infect so many other shows I watch.

Morena Baccarin is stunning. Like, insanely stunning. Wow!
la_belle_isa
Oct. 31st, 2011 06:07 pm (UTC)
Revenge is the only new show that I watch regularly every week. And yeah, I thought the exact same thing about that eternal dog. I’m not really into Jack *ducks tomatoes* and hence, I'm not into Team Jack or any team! I have nothing against him of course, but I find him blah. Jack and Emily’s story seems too obvious to me. And I can’t see what they might have in common besides a few moments they shared in the past. And Madeleine Stowe: isn’t she stunning?! I hope they will develop Nolan’s character more. I find him intriguing but I was disappointed that he chickened out last week. Although I don’t know how he escaped the police in Lydia’s appartment the week before. I don’t get Emily’s attitude with him. He could be very dangerous if he turns against her. And ugh. I hate Tyler. What a monster. But that actor really sells his character.
I’m a little behind with SPN so I haven’t seen JM yet. But I like this season so far. All the angels and demons war stuff was boring to me and even though Castiel is a fan favorite, I can’t say I cared a lot about him.
Maybe I’ll take a look at Once upon a time and Homeland. I downloaded American horror story, Ringer and Grimm. I watched The secret circle pilot and it’s just too young for me. So right now, for me, the only keeper is Revenge.
jeannev
Nov. 1st, 2011 01:10 am (UTC)
*GASP* You don't love Jack? Take it back!!

LOL, its OK. I guess the Emily/Jack stuff is a little obvious. But I think its something of a touchstone, or contrast, to everything else thats going on. Here's something thats based on innocence, and its sort of the only thing like it that Amanda, now Emily, has in her life. This old connection to a childhood friend. Do they have anything in common now? No, not really, but I guess thats one of the things I like. Jack is probably the only possible person in her life that could steer her away from her vengeful path. But do we want him to? I don't know, because the revenge is sort of delicious. But is it also destroying whats left of Amanda Clarke's soul?

See, I'm already thinking about this show too much.

I watched the last SPN ep at the gym tonight. It was good, I liked it.

If you watch Homeland, let me know what you think.
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jeannev
Nov. 8th, 2011 02:11 am (UTC)
I'm liking what Ginnifer Goodwin is doing with the Snow White character too.

But, I think I've decided my favorite character is the Sheriff, and I'm dying to know what fairy tale character he turns out to be.

Having said that, I like the show, but don't love it so much.

I don't even try to like the teenagers on Revenge. I just resent that they take up airtime that could be better spent on...anything.

I'm really annoyed with SPN after this weeks episode. I think Dean just got a Chloe-sized hand wave of absolution, and I think Sam just got Clark-ified.

I watched the 2nd Grimm, but I don't know, I don't think it was very good. And the lead is blander then OUAT's Prince Charming (LOL, sorry!). He's not even hot. How does one get the lead in a TV show if you aren't a charismatic actor, OR kind of hot?

I think you've summed up Homeland quite well. I don't hate Carrie either, but like her? No, not even a little. Her intentions are noble, but her methods are whack.
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jeannev
Nov. 8th, 2011 05:40 pm (UTC)
Maybe you're right, and they haven't closed the door on the Dean/Amy thing, but it sure seemed like it to me. And I also didn't appreciate Dean flinging the hell thing in Sam's face, considering that he's doing pretty amazing considering what happened to him. Dean just isn't high on my hit parade right now.

But, you're right, he's better then Chloe ;)
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