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Talking about TV and Movie Stuff

Consider this a random post, with commentaries on a few things, and a rant about Glee.

Lets start with the movies.  I used to go to the movies all the time.  Now, I hardly do, and the movie I saw the other night is one of the big reasons.  I saw Morning Glory, starting Rachel McAdams, Harrison Ford and Diane Keaton.  And what a letdown.  Its not that the movie is terrible.  Its just so Blah.  Its like you can see the bones of a good movie in there, but the execution and the writing, and way too many of the performances are just so Blah.  Rachel McAdams is an actress I really, really like.  But who instructed her to act like such a hyper ninny?  NO ONE would hire someone that acts like this woman does in a job interview.  And then Patrick Wilson as her insta-love interest?  Well, first of all, this actor positively defines the word "Bland".  If you look up "bland" in the dictionary, I am convinced there's a picture of him smiling back at you.  And he has no chemistry with McAdams.  So, this romantic subplot just wastes my freaking time.  Then you have really good, interesting actors like Jeff Goldblum, Diane Keaton and John Pankow, and they aren't given enough to do.  The only actor that comes out of this movie having real made an impression is Harrison Ford, who is actually excellent in a role that is probably not too far from his actual persona. 

So, Ryan Reynolds is the sexiest man alive according to People magazine?  Hmmm.  Now, I like Ryan.  And having seen him at SDCC, he's impressive in person.  And his bonding with the little kid is, without question, one of the most heartwarming things at saw at SDCC.  But why don't I find him sexy?

I'm probably not a good judge anyway.  Because, for me, its probably going to be the same 5 guys every year, with Tom Welling leading the way.

Still watching Chase, though I find the show has become excessively routine.  I know the show has no shot of going beyond this one season, and I'm OK with that now, because the writing is just not very creative.  The cast is good, and again, you can see the bones of a good show here, but the execution leaves much to be desired.

Also still watching Law & Order: Los Angeles.  I LOVE the police side of the story, and start to fade out on the lawyer part of the story.

The Walking Dead continues to kick so much ASS!  I love it.  A zombie story, done right.  And I enjoy the subtle examination of what becomes of humanity under such circumstances.  Lead Andrew Lincoln (thats his name, right?) is impressing the heck out of me.  I'm so glad we're getting a S2 out of this.

Boardwalk Empire was a bit slow this past week.  As much as I'm enjoying this show, I have to admit that there are way too many characters that I just don't give a shit about. 

Sons of Anarchy has been action packed the last 2 weeks.  Last week, I thought the hour flew by.  But as much as I liked the fast pace, and amount of action, I'm still awfully confused about the whole Irish storyline.  And more then that, I'm not sure I care about it.  Really, why should I care about these people?

And can someone wake Ron Perlman up, and ask him to please act again?  My God, the man is giving new meaning to the phrase "phoning it in".  On the other hand, Charlie Hunnam is giving a great performance. 

And I won't front.  I don't care about Tara at all.  Everytime she's on screen, I zone out.  For me, its definitely an actress problem, exacerbated by a character I feel is poorly developed. 

In this weeks episode [SPOILER WARNING] , I thought the show hit a really emotional high point, as Jax watched the Irish couple that had adopted Abel interact with the baby, and each other.  I could feel Jax's pain and torment in that moment, and his scene where he tries to explain it to Gemma was incredible.  But then the show squandered that completely by having the couple murdered by the Lucky Charms Elf, I mean Jimmy.  And then Jax gets the baby back, and all that torment Jax went though felt meaningless. 

And Tara?  What the hell kind of deal was that she made?  Why?  That had to be the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen.  She had the opportunity to just shoot the fucker, and get out of there with the red-head.  Instead, she stays?  How did she think that was going to work out?  Someone tatoo MORON on this womans forehead please.   And I hope this Tara/Jax baby does not come to pass, because I just can't imagine how they'd work that into the show.  A whole season of a pregnant Tara?  Jax having 2 babies?  Why?  What would that add?

Favorite moment:  Opie staying behind in the hotel room with Jax, and just being with him.  Jax and Opie are my OTP on SoA (but in a totally platonic way).

OK, now I'm going to rant about Glee.

Now, last weeks episode was OK, and I was very much OK with the Kurt bullying storyline.  Although, when this show started, wasn't it more then just Kurt who was dealing with bullying?  Weren't Rachel and Mercedes slushied alll the time?  Didn't Arnie get thrown in a dumpster?  I'm extremely aware of the horrible bullying gay kids have to put up with in school, and the rash of suicides breaks my heart.  But to ignore the subject of bullying in a general sense to focus only on the bullying the gay kid endures seems like very pedestrian writing to me. 

This week, I found the writing atrocious.  Not bad, ATROCIOUS!  No offense to Gwyneth Paltrow, who was fun, and totally game, and a good singer to boot.  But the show was a mess from top to bottom.  First of all, Kurt is totally being a crap friend to Mercedes.  And then SHE gets lectured by HIM because she's substituing food for love?  OMG, explosion meet my head!  Mercedes, instead of telling Kurt to go fuck himself, contritely agrees, and agrees to go try and date one of the 5 other black students at the school.  I can't even begin to express how wrong this whole storyline was.

And as if that wasn't enough, there's a scene that I found remarkably offensive.  Mercedes has dinner with Kurt, and his new gay BFF Blaine, and they are bad stereotypes.  How can the dialogue in this scene not be offensive to gay men everywhere?  The two of them babble like hyperactive girls, talking about how much they love Vogue covers, and Patti Lupone autobiographies, because of course ALL gay men have to like these things.  Mercedes zones out, and who can blame her?

Then lets talk about the musical numbers.  GP performing Cee-Lo's Forget You in the chorus room was great, but every other musical number fell flat with a THUD.  I can't even believe they tried to recreate the classic "Make 'em Laugh" number from Singin' In The Rain.  First of all, it was a pathetic imitation in every way.  Second of all, there are just some numbers you don't try and recreate.  Thats one of them.  Later on, we had Lea Michele and GP trying to recreate a number from Chicago.  Down to the set design.  Why?  Why are we doing these copies?  And the whole scene felt useless.  Later on, we had the big mash-up of Singing In The Rain, and Umbrella.  But this big production number felt overblown.  Between the twirling umbrellas, the splashing rain, the shiney raincoats, and the spastic camera work, it just felt crowded and messy.  And again, sort of pointless.  Not that every song on Glee needs to have a point, but BIG PRODUCTION NUMBERS just for the sake of BIG PRODUCTION NUMBERS feel so annoying to me.

Let me compare...lets take last weeks performance of Teenage Dream, sung by a rival choir, and then compare the numbers in this episode.  Now, which one works, and what doesn't?

And I love Jane Lynch, and I love her Sue Sylvester, but she hasn't been funny at all. 

And I hate scenes between Will and his ex-wife, who continuing presence on the show is a complete puzzlement to me.

Speaking of Mercedes, I thought we were supposed to see the friendship between her and Quinn continued on through this season.  They have not had ONE scene together, talking as friends. 

I really don't know people.  Is listening to the musical numbers, and holding your nose through the rest, the only possible way to watch this show?  Shouldn't the writing be required to try harder?

Ending on a SV note, I have a question I'm putting out to my flist, since I know I have a mix here.  Is it fair for the show to just assume that viewers have a comic book knowledge of this parade of guest villians and characters, or should the show be required to flesh the story and characters out more on screen for the benefit of the comic book challenged?  I fall into the latter category, and I have to be honest here....this parade of characters from the comic books does nothing for me, and I just end up being annoyed with the fact that 1. I have to look them up on Wikipedia to understand who they are, and 2. my poor sister can't get through an episode without turning to me and asking me to explain who the hell these people are.

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netlynn
Nov. 17th, 2010 04:30 pm (UTC)
I sort of felt the same way when I heard about Ryan, I think he's cute but definitely not the most sexiest. And that picture they used on the cover? Was terrible.

Because, for me, its probably going to be the same 5 guys every year, with Tom Welling leading the way.

I'm curious, though, who would been your five choices?

I liked last week's episode of Glee. 1. Because of the rival group and 2. Because of the out of the blue kiss - did not see that one coming. But last night's episode did catch me off guard that I wanted to fast forward through all the parts except for the singing. I hated the way Kurt acted towards Mercedes and I cannot stand Will's ex-wife. But Gweneth Paltrow actually surprised me with her signing, I wasn't expecting her to be quite that good.

I agree with you on the comic book knowledge, I'm guilty of doing my own Wikipedia look ups and I hate it. On a lighter note, what did you think of shirtless Clark last week? I'm planning on making a gif of one of those scenes if RL will get out of my face for two seconds.

jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 05:35 pm (UTC)
Well, there would be Tom, of course, Timothy Olyphant, Paul Walker, Jensen Ackles. Denzel Washington is a perennial favorite. And right now, I'm in LOVE with Idris Elba. Hmm, Chris Pine and Karl Urban are right up there too.

Last weeks Glee was just OK to me, but this one? Yikes! And its not due to GP, because she was pretty good. Its just the writing.

With SV, I just feel like I'm totally losing any ability to even discuss SV in a lot of places because of "...well, in the source material". And its frustrating, and aggravating.

Shirtless Tom was very nice. He's really slim now, and has been for the last 2 seasons.
dawnybee
Nov. 17th, 2010 05:34 pm (UTC)
Rachel McAdams is an actress I really, really like. But who instructed her to act like such a hyper ninny?

I liked her, but I agree and that seems to be the traits of nearly every female lead in a rom-com. They’re frantic and neurotic and what makes it worse was that Diane Keaton wasn’t too far from that either in the film, so now there’s two in one film acting like a spazz.

So, Ryan Reynolds is the sexiest man alive according to People magazine? Hmmm. Now, I like Ryan. And having seen him at SDCC, he's impressive in person. And his bonding with the little kid is, without question, one of the most heartwarming things at saw at SDCC. But why don't I find him sexy?

I don’t find him sexy either. Great body, but he doesn’t do it for me at all. Same for his wife: she’s a beauty, but she has zero sex appeal IMO.

Mercedes, instead of telling Kurt to go fuck himself, contritely agrees, and agrees to go try and date one of the 5 other black students at the school.

LMAO! I have to watch this.

Ending on a SV note, I have a question I'm putting out to my flist, since I know I have a mix here. Is it fair for the show to just assume that viewers have a comic book knowledge of this parade of guest villians and characters, or should the show be required to flesh the story and characters out more on screen for the benefit of the comic book challenged? I fall into the latter category, and I have to be honest here....this parade of characters from the comic books does nothing for me, and I just end up being annoyed with the fact that 1. I have to look them up on Wikipedia to understand who they are, and 2. my poor sister can't get through an episode without turning to me and asking me to explain who the hell these people are.

Hmmm. As someone who is a comic fan and wants to convert everyone into loving them and learning about characters in the DCU I like that the show assumes people know who they are. Hopefully that will make viewers want to know who they are and look them up and get a broader knowledge of the DCU and find the show richer for it. I think it’s not very different from having a Freak of the Week; the only difference is that these freaks of the week have a real backstory and history. But if you don’t know initially and don’t care to know, then it does lie flat for viewers and not only that, it’s taking away time from the characters because the writers are so jazzed over delving into the DC vaults that they write for these characters and forget to focus on the main ones.
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
The reality is that most rom-com are poorly written. Full of cliches, and stereotypes, with the same predictable endings.

See, I don't have a problem with the show using comic book characters at all. I just expect them to do a better job of explaining them, instead of just assuming we should all just know. Take Desaad in last weeks ep. Sure, the actor was cool, but if I wasn't on the internet, this guy would show up, and I'd be thinking WTF? His clubs are mentioned, but what clubs? Since the show cut out his connection to the club in Supergirl (which just makes that seems random), how would someone be able to make the connection?

And I've heard people bring up the anti-life equation. But what does that mean to people who don't know what it is, so can't make the connection to events on the show? There are so many random characters now who show up, and its supposed to mean something because "they're in the comics", but it doesn't mean much to people who don't read them.

I guess, bottom line, I think they should bring in these characters, I just think they should do a better job of it, and remember that not everyone in their audience comes into the show with an encylopedic knowledge of the DC univervse.
dawnybee
Nov. 17th, 2010 05:50 pm (UTC)
His clubs are mentioned, but what clubs? Since the show cut out his connection to the club in Supergirl (which just makes that seems random), how would someone be able to make the connection?

The invite that Godfrey's assistant handed to him in the limo says that it's Desaad's Fetish Night at Maxwell's or something to that effect.

And I've heard people bring up the anti-life equation. But what does that mean to people who don't know what it is, so

I read comics and I still am not quite sure what it means.

I guess, bottom line, I think they should bring in these characters, I just think they should do a better job of it, and remember that not everyone in their audience comes into the show with an encylopedic knowledge of the DC univervse.

I think they need to lessen it because the time it takes to explain it in a proper fashion, they don't have time for. They cut scenes that are necessary for the next ep (what happened to Carter explaining to Lois about Isis? Why did Desaad not show up in Supergirl?) so unless they stick to maybe one every two or three episodes you'll get this disconnect. It took a 2 parter to actually explain the histories of the JSA. They can't keep throwing out Warp (who I only knew who that was in "Ambush" because the actor tweeted that's who he was playing).
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 07:19 pm (UTC)
I'd forgotten about Desaad's name on the invite. But isn't that a pretty flimsy set-up?

As for everything in your last paragraph, WORD!
lexalicious70
Nov. 17th, 2010 07:15 pm (UTC)
SO with you on everything you said about Glee last night. I was complaining on Twitter almost to the letter about everything you pointed out here. And that purse line was lifted directly from a Will and Grace episode. I was bored/annoyed, too.
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
I'm really shocked that there aren't more people like you and me when it comes to last nights Glee.

Even if you could put aside the stereotypes, the rest of the episode still had problems up the yazoo.
la_belle_isa
Nov. 17th, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC)
Re : Glee. I have to say, I pretty much accepted the fact that women in general are awfully portrayed on that show imo. I’m mostly interested in the musical numbers so I judge the episodes depending on the numbers. That’s funny. « Singing in the rain” is one of my top 3 favorite movies and I was in absolute awe with the Singing in the rain number in Glee. It totally worked for me. I love their modern take on it. I found the choreography very elegant. The Chicago number was pathetic and I wouldn't want to compare their rendition of "Make em laugh" with the original.
About Kurt and bullying, I mostly noticed that the football guy made a death threat, which brings the whole bullying thing to a new level. Kurt is a very favorite character of the writers (see how it feels like when writers love a character?!) so I’m not surprised he’s got awesome drama all to himself.
Re: SV.
"this parade of characters from the comic books does nothing for me". It does nothing for me either and I'm not even interested in looking them up. So yes, I agree with you that they should introduce less characters to explain them better. Imo, they're really trying to use SV to the max by introducing obscure DC characters to the general public. I mean, I'm still convinced that SV hasn't been about Clark's journey since S6, when CW tried to "soap" the show and they started to introduce DC characters that barely related to Clark.
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 09:03 pm (UTC)
I'm glad some of the numbers worked for you. Usually, I'm pretty easy on them, but this week, they just bugged me.

I think Kurt has become Ryan Murphy's avatar on the show. I don't mind that so much, but I just wish the writing was better.

I admit, I don't bother looking up some of the guests either anymore. One of the reasons is that its kind of pointless, when they bring someone on, and its as lame as the Silver Banshee. Non comic books fans just thought she was a lame villian. Comic books fans were disappointed because she was a lame version of a DC character.

Some of the characters they've brought in have been intriguing, i.e. Deadshot, Rick Flagg, and phasing guy from Ambush. But it just feels like overkill to me.
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jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2010 09:51 pm (UTC)
I'm just going to stare at your icon for a while...

OK, so what did you say? LOL

Really, I could just watch a show of Jax and Opie hanging out together. I love them that much.

To be clear, I adore Rachel McAdams. She deserves to be a movie star. But she couldn't save this movie. And did I mention the bland love interest? Why can't Tom Welling get parts like that?

I do like Ryan a lot, and I think him and Scarlett are quite an adorable couple.

I wonder if Glee thoughts "Hey, we got Gwyneth Paltrow...we can just write some cute stuff for her, and screw writing anything of substance for the rest of the ep"?

I think the deal with Smallville is that they shot themselves in the foot by spending so many years telling us that Smallville was its own project, separate (for the most part) from the Superman we all know, so they don't really know how to handle the characters from the comic books. They spent so much time saying "Look, Clark and Lex were besties; Pete and Lana don't end up together; Chloe exists in our world" that to now say "well, hell, if you don't know who Black Canary is then you don't belong in our audience" would be going back on their earlier arguments.

I love this paragraph. I think I will marry it. :)

serenography
Nov. 17th, 2010 11:19 pm (UTC)
Waitaminute...you put Denzel and Chris Pine on your list and you saw Morning Glory instead of Unstoppable? Wth? Did you not see my raving about it on Twitter (or did I do that on Facebook.. I don't remember. LOL!). You really should make an effort to see it. I wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much as I did. I wanted to see Skyline or Morn. Glory, but Unstoppable was the compromise. Denzel and Pine are GREAT together, and the movie actually doesn't suck at all.

I think Ryan Reynolds is sexy. I like him doing comedic stuff, which is why I'm curious how he'll come off as GL. I hate the CGI of the suit in that trailer. I hope that's not a final version.

Yay! Glad you're watching Walking Dead too. It's a must-see in my house. I even got my dad and some co-workers to tune in to the marathon this past Sunday. I'm a total sucker for post-apocalyptic type stories - throw in some living dead and I'm there. I still am not sure about the time frame from when the lead was shot, to when his wife and best friend started boning. Seemed a bit... rushed, even if she did think he was dead.

So, I don't care for Glee, but it has managed to be on my TV the past few shows. There doesn't seem to be anything else on at that time! But I do like musical numbers, and I wanted to see Gwyneth, so I left it on while I made dinner. Gwyneth did a crazy good job with that first number (C-Low?). I find most of the characters kind of annoying.

It's funny you mention SV and how hard they are trying to align with the comics. I can understand that it's the final season and they are likely trying to end the show on a note that does honor the comics and be a logical platform that could evolve into the comic world. I think the heavier involvement of Geoff Johns and DC has had a hand in all this. I'm okay with it, but at the same time, I also feel like SV should stand proud and loud behind it's own mythology and unique contribution to the Superman legend. It's a fine line to walk, and I'm curious to see how they finish this story up. My dream, of course, is for the ending of Smallville to seamlessly launch our Clark into the next big screen movie. :) Not holding my breath on that one though.

My only other SV-viewing friend at work has really soured on the show this season. She doesn't do the online fandom at ALL, so it's always interesting to me to get her perspective. She hates all the unfamiliar characters and...she hates Lois. But she hasn't liked her since she came on the show. I have argued about how much I do enjoy Lois now, especially compared to her early appearances, but to no avail. She said she's only watching now because she's invested so much time in it and she still likes watching Tom. LOL!

Now my daughter is a whole other perspective. She hates the comic book stuff (thinks it's all "stupid") but she loves the romance stuff. So while she used to be a Clana fan, now she's a Clois fan. She just likes seeing Clark being in love. Hee!

My son has quit watching at all, which makes me sad. :(

I gave up on Boardwalk Empire a few episodes ago, but my son is still watching. He enjoys it, but he says it tends to drag.




jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:13 am (UTC)
I just couldn't psych myself up to see Unstoppable. I guess I just thought it looked...done? But its probably a better movie then I'm giving it credit for.

I think that, re: the Walking Dead, there were already some marital problems when this whole thing started, so I'm thinking she was looking to connect with someone. Especially because she was feeling a sense of regret, and probably also some anger. At least thats how I'm rationalizing it right now. I think its so interesting how they are taking a zombie show, and turning it into a show about human beings in extreme situations. Fascinating stuff.

I think the problem with Glee characters is that they don't really have characters. They are so inconsistent, week-to-week, that I'm not entirely sure who any of these people are, and whether any of them are at all likeable. I don't understand why they are determined to keep these characters as shallow as a puddle.

When it comes to SV bringing Clark closer and closer to Superman, and aligning with the comics in that way, I'm all for it. But I really fail to see why they have to drop in all these characters to do it. I don't really see the 2 things as necessarily interconnected. And I do believe preference plays a part in all this.

But to be honest, I sort of feel that as a non-comios reader, I've become a red-headed stepchild of a fan to TPTB. And I've been with them all along. I'm a bit resentful over it.
cbrownjc
Nov. 17th, 2010 11:47 pm (UTC)
On the SV question - I tend to view it half-and-half. I don't think they should limit themselves in the amount of DC Comic Book access they have now. I think it makes the word the characters are in bigger and opens up more story telling avenues.

OTOH, I'm not above saying that they need to also explain some of this stuff and not just assume people will understand a lot of these things just because they are DC Comic Book characters and things. It's kind of how I feel about the Harry Potter films - as they've gone on (especially starting with movie #4) I do wonder how much people who haven't read the books are really getting and understanding. I think they've done a good job explaining the motivations of some things like The Suicide Squad but, as I said before the season started, the Darkseid stuff can be confusing for comic book fans like me to always keep straight. It can be done (you don't have to go into every little minute detail to explain things IMO) but if they are going the way I think they're going with this darkness stuff, then they do need to some more specific exposition on it.
jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:16 am (UTC)
I'm certainly not saying that I think they shouldn't bring in any DC characters. But is it too much to ask that they just don't assume that viewers are going to know who, and what, these characters are? I don't think it should be. I feel really disconnected from the Darkseid stuff because I have no frame of reference for it. I mean, I hear stuff, and I can research it, but why should I have to? Shouldn't they be telling this story on screen. But instead, they have balls bouncing all over the freaking place.

I guess I just believe that some viewers shouldn't have to feel left behind because they didn't go over this material before, elsewhere. Does that seem like asking too much?
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jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
All you said about Glee? Just yes. Its like I just said in a reply above, I do not understand why this show seems determined to keep their characters as shallow as puddles. Why are they so afraid to allow these characters to be fleshed out, and develop consistent characterizations? Would that really take away from the musical numbers? I mean, honestly, is the show even funny most of the time?

As for SV, you know I think they should follow the maxim "Show your work" when it comes to the introduction of new characters to the canvas. Even characters with pre-made backstories. Because that's just good storytelling!

Yes! Thank you. I'm not suggesting they never bring in a character from the comics. I'm just saying that if you do, can you do the on screen work thats required to make it accesible to everyone watching?
shalimarfox80
Nov. 18th, 2010 01:07 am (UTC)
Replying to the Smallville part of your post:

I think Smallville does a good job of fleshing out the characters at some times but lousy at others. For example, Bruno in Stiletto, Wonder Twins in Idol or Bart in Run are a few examples where I don't think one would have to go and look at a comic book to understand where they came from. They could enjoy the characters without background knowledge. (JMHO off course)

Now episodes like Legion and Justice Society (the movie) require at least some knowledge of the background of the characters and that's a fail. Because SV cannot and should not expect all viewers to have comic book knowledge or all viewers to go look at Wiki or some other source, and obviously they don't have time to flesh out these characters on screen.

My personal opinion is that I would prefer if they scrap this comic book guest stars idea altogether and focus on their series star and the series regulars but hey, that's just me.
jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:23 am (UTC)
I agree with you about the Wonder Twins, and Bart, but Bruno in Stilleto could've just been any character. Why even bother to call him Bruno Mannheim? (that one I looked up, so I know the character should've been more).

I think my personal opinion would be that they should do less of these characters, and take more time and care in introducing them. For instance, how easy could it have been to drop "Mad Harriet" from Abandoned? Why even bother making her a DC character when she bore no resemblence?

I just feel like SV has all this shit going on, and much of it doesn't seem to have much to do with Clark, and it all feels really muddled and confusing to me. And thats precisely what I think the last season should NOT be.
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wingster55
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:58 am (UTC)
I don't get the fuss over Reynold...I'm not the right person to make judgment but isn't that list based on popularity more?

"But to ignore the subject of bullying in a general sense to focus only on the bullying the gay kid endures seems like very pedestrian writing to me."
..This is Glee ;)

Recurring characters need to be fleshed out. Random appearances..not so much imo.

jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 03:32 am (UTC)
There's no doubt in my mind that Reynolds was picked for reasons other then his sexiness.

Fair enough about random characters, but then why have them be DC characters at all?
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tasabian
Nov. 18th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
How can the dialogue in this scene not be offensive to gay men everywhere? The two of them babble like hyperactive girls, talking about how much they love Vogue covers, and Patti Lupone autobiographies, because of course ALL gay men have to like these things.
It's improbable two teenage boys would care about any of that. Much more realistic if Mercedes gets uncomfortable because they're flirting & she starts to feel like third wheel.

Is it fair for the show to just assume that viewers have a comic book knowledge of this parade of guest villians and characters, or should the show be required to flesh the story and characters out more on screen for the benefit of the comic book challenged?
Even knowing who they are, I think they should flesh it out more. But the Darkseid arc is clearly the distant "B" plot to the Clark/Lois engagement arc so they're being stingy with establishment scenes. I think Harvest should have been a Darkseid ep instead and introduced Desaad properly. As you said in your review, Clark & Lois should have gone to the anti-vigilante rally instead of Children of the Corn-ville.
jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 04:00 am (UTC)
And if thats how the Kurt/Mercedes/Blaine scene went, it would've been fine. As it was? Jesus, stereotype much?

Maybe with what they're doing with Clois in the coming eps, they'll be able to move that to the side a bit, and concentrate a bit more on hero/villian stuff?

Yeah, I don't think so either...

And not only should Harvest have been about the anti-vigilante rally, but Isis should've been....well, not there at all.
miss_tress
Nov. 18th, 2010 05:01 am (UTC)
So, Ryan Reynolds is the sexiest man alive according to People magazine?
I was amused by the news this morning saying it was a big surprise that he was chosen. Really? What with all the magazines putting pictures of him without a shirt on their covers during the past 2 years? And the fact that WB owns People? And the Green Lantern trailer just happened to drop yesterday? It's all a big surprise? Really?
jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, definitely. Its like when they do their most beautiful people addition, and it all happens to be people that are promoting movies, or have a new album out, or have some way made themselves into the news. When, really, when you think about it, wouldn't the most beautiful people be the same crew just about every year? Or did they suddenly get ugly?
goodvibe
Nov. 18th, 2010 08:13 am (UTC)
I don't get the Ryan Reynolds thing---doesn't do anything for me. ::shrugs::

The Walking Dead is something that's on my list of shows - just have to find the time to watch it now. I'm planning a trip home sometime next month, or in January. Hopefully with no work and all during that time, I'll just be able to laze around and catch up on TV and movies.

I skipped the SoA stuff - I'm still about 3 eps in S3. So far, nothing has topped S1 for me, but I'm hoping the pace will pick up a bit?

I've been randomly, sporadically catching Glee, when it's on here (a week behind here) and I have to say, IMO, it's not getting any better for me. I think the main problem for me is that from the supposed mains, the only ones I enjoy watching, or want to watch more of are Quinn, Mercedes and Puck. Maybe Santana(?) and the blonde girl. In contrast, I continue to find Rachel, Will, Finn, Kurt and Emma ::incredibly:: annoying - even moreso from last season, if that were possible. So for me, I think just catching it occasionally when it's on works - because I can enjoy the music stuff, if it's good, and get a laugh or two from Sue. And that's it.

We've discussed the SV issue before and more and more I can see your point. Like I said, it just seems to be a combination of laziness and conceit from the writers to just plop these characters in and---that's it - basically leaving us to our own devices. I'm seeing this with Ray' nephew these days, who has only just gotten into comics, and he's just so lost this season with the Darkseid and SS storylines.
jeannev
Nov. 18th, 2010 02:35 pm (UTC)
I like Ryan Reynolds a lot. But I think what keeps him from being sexy to me...and this is going to sound silly...his eyes are very close together. It just throws me off.

I think watching The Walking Dead all in one shot would be a blast! Its tough waiting a week to see the next one.

I agree with what you say about Glee. I think the most likeable characters are the ones that don't get much to do. Maybe thats why they are more likeable? I like Kurt though, but there's a bit too much focus on him lately.

I know how I feel about SV, but I'm very influenced by my non-'net going sister, who is a faithful watcher of the show. And she's just lost with whats going on. Now, this is a very intelligent woman, who is a careful watcher. If she is feeling like this, can it really be such a rarity?
awehla
Nov. 21st, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
Hi, am over here from the ledger again.

I feel like they should put more background into it as well. I have read graphic novels and seen Justice League cartoons so I know a little of Aqua Man's origins and I'd heard of Darkseid but I didn't really know what Darkseid does, where he comes from or who Granny Goodness is. I can keep up with the story but Smallville should really assume their audience has never read a comic book not that only comic book geeks are left watching the show.

Lisa
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jeannev
Nov. 21st, 2010 06:40 pm (UTC)
Hi :)

I don't think I'm being unreasonable in asking for a bit more explanation. Lots of people watch this show that are coming to the Superman story through Smallville. And they should count too. And they should be considered, and respected.
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