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Eh, so I guess it was too much to hope for 2 touchdown's in a row.

Lets start with the totals:

Abandoned, running time:  41m, 42s

Clark:  17m, 31s
Lois:  17m, 17s
Tess:  15m, 4s (Little Tess: 2m, 24s)*

Granny Goodness:  11m, 18s

I didn't do the screentime for anyone else.

*Doing Tess' screentime was something of a challenge.  Since Tess was, technically, having memories of herself as a child, the time is counted for both Young Tess, and Current Tess.  So, the 15m, 4s represents the accumulative time for Tess, with her also appearing as her young self for 2m, 24s).

Totals to Date (# of eps)

Clark:  175m, 30s (8)
Lois:  140m, 44s (8)
Tess:  57m, 40s (6)
Oliver:  46m, 35s (6)




Abandoned is an episode that seemed to suffer from a number of issues.  While there was an attempt to link the stories together with a similar theme, the reality is that the stories just didn't seem to mesh well together at all.  The Tess/Granny Goodness/Clark/Furies stuff seem to be occupying one universe, and then there was the Lois/her mothers tape/FoS/Visions of the Els/Clark stuff.  And it just felt like two different shows.

I'll start with the show I preferred, which was the Tess/Granny Goodness stuff.  For one thing, I was very much excited for the opportunity to see Clark and Tess working together, being friendly.  And what we got didn't disappoint, but ultimately the lack of quantity did disappoint.  I won't lie, I was hoping for more.  Still, what was there completely worked in the way I thought it would.  I happen to think Tom and Cassidy play off each other so well, so I just enjoy seeing them in scenes together.  And I'm really enjoying seeing how their loyalty towards each other is increasing.  I loved the way Tess growled "What did you do to him?" when Granny revealed that her girls were taking care of Tess' companion.  And I loved the way Clark reassured Tess that she was part of his team, and he wouldn't be abandoning her.  Something I'm sure she hasn't heard too much of in her life.  This growing bond ups the stakes for Tess' storyline, I think, considering the stuff she's hdiing, like Clone Alexander, and her newly revealed Luthor-ness.

I do understand complaints about Tess' backstory being ever evolving, but I can't see where anything was directly contradicted or retconned here.  And Tess as a Luthor?  Well, OK.  We all know Lionel was a Playa'.  And having S1's Pamela be Tess' mother feels inspired (even if that does mean she was lying to poor Lex).  I'm not entirely sure what Tess being a Luthor adds to the overall storyline though, but I'm willing to find out. Like so many other things Luthor-related, it would feel so much more weighty if MR's Lex was making a return.

However,what this backstory for Tess does bring to the storyline is a connection to Granny Goodness and the coming war, which in turn is going to be Clark's big challenge for the year.  It brings Darkseid back into the story.   So, I definitely believe this storyline did impact Clark, or will as the season evolves.  As Granny said to Tess, she's going to be her best weapon, whether she wants to or not, and who do we think this weapon is going to be aimed at?  I think it sets up a lot of possibilities, especially now that Clark and Tess have become friendly.

But, as much as there was stuff I really liked in this storyline, I didn't think it was executed as well as it could be.  I wanted something more.  As a non-comic reader, I have to be honest that this whole Darkseid/Granny Goodness/Godfrey/Desaad stuff is confusing as hell.  My poor sister kept asking me what was going on, and frankly, I didn't know how to explain it to her at all.  Even with my 'net access, that at least gives me some working knowledge of whats going on.  I realize that the show is coming closer and closer to  Superman, but it seems something of a conceit for them to think viewers are just going to be able to get a grip on these characters in 2 minute exposition scenes, and the rest they should just know from the comics.  It reminds me of the recent talk about the anti-life equation that came up with Clark's "heart of darkness" arc,  which means absolutely NOTHING to people who don't read the comics, so why would that resonate for me?

And I was initially excited for the Furies, and Mad Harriet, but it ended up being something of a waste.  Not that I don't appreciate the gals taking off Clark's shirt ASAP (you girls can come back, anytime!  I'll bring the chains!!).  But I sort of hate when the show builds up this big "OMG, another DC character is coming..." and then their appearance in the episode seems unnecessary or anticlimatic.  Silver Banshee anyone?  With more time, and development, the Furies could've been a lot cooler, I thiink.  And they should've been.

On the flipside of this episode, we had Lois going through her mothers things, and coming face-to-face with her mothers tapes.  Though I thought having Teri Hatcher step in as Ella Lane was a nice touch, and her performance, and Erica's performance, were just fine, I can't really say that I was overly moved by this.  And I truly expected to be, having lost a parent to cancer.  But something fell flat.  In the end, I think it was just the heavy-handiness in the dialogue for Ella.  I mean, really, a line like "...knowing you, he'll be tall, dark and handsome"?  Because 6 year old Lois already had a type?  The clang of the anvil on my head with lines like that just take me right out of the game.

I also could never quite make the leap from Lois, and her feelings about the mother she lost to cancer, and how that relates to Clark and dealing with the psycho AI Jor-El.  Its as if the show kept trying to tell me that they were practically the same thing, and the rational part of my brain kept screaming in protest.  Because no, NO, they aren't the same thing at all.  AI Jor-El is not Clark's "dad".  And the weird way that the characters keep switching between referring to the AI Jor-El as a machine, or an ice fortress, then talk about it as some sort of real, living breathing version of Jor-El was just aggravating and nonsensical.

For instance, in the first kitchen scene, Clark says "...he's a machine, its different" (Which is RIGHT!), and Lois' answer is "He sent you all the way here, he created an icehouse and he trained you.  He wouldn't do all those things if he didn't care about you".  OK, What?!?!  Clark refers to the AI as a machine, which is true.  Lois then starts talking about what the real Jor'El did (sending Clark here, creating the FoS), then starts talking about what the AI has done (training Clark).

Huh??!?  They are NOT one in the same.  They just aren't Show!  Stop trying to imply that they are.

This sort of thing continues later.

I also have a big problem with people who experiance something that helps them, or moves them, and then they decide its what EVERYONE needs, and they need to make it so.  Lois may have had Clark's best interests at heart, but her epiphany that Clark needs to reconcile with the AI because of her experiances with her mothers tape just felt forced to me.  And while it seems outwardly loving and thoughtful, it also strikes me as bit self-involved.  Like "Well, I've decided this is what he needs, and so I'm justified in whatever I do to make it happen".  

And believe me, I know I wasn't supposed to see it that way, but I did.  And I HATE that they had Clark validate it.  I much prefer the Clark who stands up for himself from last week to this one thats all "Oh Lois, its perfectly OK that you rummaged through my stuff, took the Fortress key without asking, or telling me, and decided what was best for me, because you were right".  Just, No.

In fact, this need to parallel Lois and Clark in the episode just felt like really contrived and didactic writing to me.  Lois sees her mother on a tape, and feels a sense of closure so Clark has to see his parents on a tape (of a sort), and feel a sense of closure.  How...simplistic and trite.

You know what would've been more interesting to me?  If Clark had instead told Lois that No, he didn't need anything from the AI because he's come to realize that its NOT his real father, and he knows that his real father and mother loved him.  That he doesn't need validation from a machine when he's found a purpose in his life, and a love that makes him happy.  That way, we have both Clark and Lois in a good place at the end, at peace with their lost parents, and yet having reached that last destination in different ways.  This need for them to be the same seems unnecessary and obvious.  

And while its nice and all that Clark saw his parents saying good-bye to him (and I wouldn't have objected at all to the scene in a different context), I still don't know what Clark was supposed to learn from it that he didn't already know.  He's known that his mother loved him since S3's Memoria, and he got to spend time with her clone.  So, no new revelations there.  As for the real Jor-El, I think Clark already had a decent picture of who the man was, and even got to hear from him directly that he was proud of him (Kandor).  So, what great epiphany came to Clark via this hologram message, and what does it have to do with the struggles Clark has had with the AI? I'll tell you what, Fuck All!

Another very odd tonal shift in this episode was the unresolved nature of the Granny/Orphanage stuff.  Going by the trailer, there was a Clark/Tess scene at the orphanage that might have tied this up nicely.  Instead, we are left to wonder....did they call the police?  what happened to the little girls at the oprhanage?  did they capture any of the furies?  how did Granny get away?  did Tess tell Clark about what Granny told her?  

But instead, we zip off for a pointless FoS scene with the hologram message (and why did that suddenly pop up?), and then Clois happy and smiliing, going off for karoake.  Well, OK, but the shift from one extreme to the other felt completely choppy.

So, overall, I felt like this episode was disappointing, even though I thought half of the storyline had/has tremendous potential.

Some quick observations

Who has the orange juice obsession on this show?

The actor who played Desaad was great with a tiny part.  I hope we get more of him.

I'm a bit on the fence with the Granny Goodness character. because she was a bit hammy, but she brought the menace, so thats a good thing.

Poor Mrs Hartley was sort of wasted.  But Wow, what a body!

Speaking of hot bodies, Hello there Mr Shirtless Welling.  Looking good!!

Helen Slater mates with Julian Sands and produces Tom Welling?  Not likely!  

 

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tjw_jaypat
Nov. 13th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
Same pattern: I agree with everything! lol

At least one thing to add: Two people in love & Clark being the most caring person normally. Yet there was not even a hug when Lois was emoting so badly in the beginning? And Clark even had to go on patrol? Not very believable at all. In particular after we just saw them inseparably lip-locked in the last episode.

Ok, this is mean: but Mrs. Hartley was just as superfluous on this show as her husband has been for quite a while...

Well, and yes, the Jor-El stuff is the most fucked up story ever... :((

What was the point of giving away Clark´s intention to propose by showing that ring? Why would we have to know that now? Just to tease shippers?
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 03:21 am (UTC)
You're right. That first Clois scene did seem oddly chilly.

I think they've just messed up the whole Jor-El stuff so much, that any way they touch on it now turns into a mess. But really, I'm racking my brains here....why would what Clark saw in the FoS have any sigficant impact on what goes on with him and the AI? I don't see how the dots connect, so it ends up being a "Well, thats nice and all" that serves no purpose at all.

I've decided to just not talk about the pending engagement right now. All I'll say is that I don't think the show needs it, but its obvious they're going to do it anyway.
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jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 03:26 am (UTC)
On my first viewing, I had some issues with Christine Willes, but I think I came to appreciate her a lot more on a 2nd viewing. And she did nail down the creepy factor, so kudos for that!

I think this episode did a far better job of bringing Darkseid and his minions into play then Supergirl did.

Thats definitely the same building. Looks like the same building they used for the insane asylum in Labyrinth too.

I have no issues with Lois watching tapes of her mother. I have a lot of issues with them deciding to link it to Clark and Jor-El. Not everything has to be some heavy-handed parallel.

And Shelby! But I'm puzzled by why they trot Shelby out in this episode, but not in the last episode where most of the action takes place at the Kent farm? Or not in Hostage, when Martha came home? At this point, its like don't use the dog at all, or make it consistent, because its just weird when he/she pops up now.
serenography
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:40 am (UTC)
You've pinned down most of reasons I didn't love this episode, as well as the ones that I did love.

Which is a useless sentence to basically say that I agree with most of this. LOL.

I found it really odd that Clark didn't hug or kill Lois before zipping off to patrol. She had just spilled her heart and shed tears... and while he did offer to stay and she rebuffed that, it still felt very OOC for him to just OkByeWhoosh! It felt like a mischaracterization of omission.

It took all of 3 seconds for Lois to find the key to the FOS. Really? Sitting totally in the open, on a ledge behind a bookshelf. Right. Again it seemed a bit of contrivance to serve the story but making Clark look careless in the process.
I would rather Lois just *knew* where it was because after all, we've already seen that Clark was sharing everything about his Kryptonian self with her.

I imagine that poor little girl still locked in that room waiting for Clark to return. The episode really needed a closing scene to wrap up some of those details at the orphanage. No way was Clark going to leave all those little girls there to be further abused.

At first, I thought that Pamela was also Lucas' mother, but I looked it up and apparently not. Are we supposed to now assume that Tess and Lex never had a sexual affair. I guess that's something I always assumed, considering she said that she "loved him." I guess that could be open to interpretation though.

Yay for Tess and Clark scenes though. Omg, I love how wonderful his capacity for forgiveness and trust is being shown in his relationship with Tess - as well as her resourcefulness and desire to really HELP him.

The FoS stuff didn't work for me at all. I get what they were trying to do with the parallel stories, but as you said, it just didn't work for so many reasons (some cheesy lines being the least of it).

I found more resonance with the story parallels of both Lois and Lana having had visits from beyond the grave with their mothers. Recycling story concepts, maybe... but I enjoyed it as an individual story element. I don't think they should have taken Lois' great epiphany and tried to parallel that to Clark's issues with Jor-El though. I preferred how they did it with Lana and had the episode end with her listening to the tapes by herself.

Why is Clark carrying around her engagement ring? Is he going to propose at karaoke night? Maybe he's afraid to hide it given his now canon lack of hiding skilz. ;)


Shirtless Clark in chains. 'Nuff said.





miss_tress
Nov. 14th, 2010 01:57 am (UTC)
Maybe he's afraid to hide it given his now canon lack of hiding skilz. ;)
*chortles*
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shalimarfox80
Nov. 14th, 2010 03:02 am (UTC)
I liked this episode, even the Tess stuff, although I'm not a big fan of her. Last year I would have hated this episode but now I've warmed up to Tess after her involvement in JL stuff so it was okay for me that they did a Tess-heavy episode.

I've read similar views to yours, and it seems like most people had the same kind of problems with the episode. I looked at it differently, but I'm not going to elaborate on that, seeing that most people will disagree with me, and your objections are very valid.

Thanks for the review. Always nice reading your thoughts on the episode. I can't wait for Patriot. I hope the action packed Smallville that we saw in Ambush is back in Patriot, plus Tom is directing and that alone is enough to get me very excited for it. :)
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 03:32 am (UTC)
Sometimes people just see episodes differently, and it feels like everyone was watching a different show then you. I get that, and I've been there many, many times.

I don't know what to think about Patriot, but my fingers are crossed for a good episode.
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jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:02 pm (UTC)
I know he can do it, is his own process and he's not so weak as the show sometimes make him look.

I totally agree. I've hammered away at that point for a long time. I get so sick to death of people always pushing Clark into things. It just makes it a lot less satisfying to me. If Clark had decided, on his own, to make one last ditch at making peace with the FoS, and then the recorded message showed up, I just know I'd have felt a bit better about the whole thing. But, the way it was done in this episode? It just felt like the whole thing was far more about servicing Lois' character than Clarks.

I don't think a romantic relationship between Lex and Tess was implied, but I can see why people would think that. Really, its just not clear what the nature of their relationship was.

also one thing I don't understand is what Jor El was doing to Lois, and one second the AI wants to kill her and the other is a wonderful parent that loved Clark so much.

Yeah, it was a mess.

You express yourself just fine with your limited English. I know what you mean :)



jude_judith82
Nov. 14th, 2010 04:26 am (UTC)
I said this already but I feel like this episode didn't gel. There were parts that really worked for me but I felt like there were scenes missing and as much as it was nice to see Jor-el and Lara I was like "that's random". Too much going on at once. I felt the Tess/Clark/Granny Goodness portion really worked well.

Speaking of hot bodies, Hello there Mr Shirtless Welling. Looking good!!

You read my post you know I agree with this. ;-)
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:03 pm (UTC)
It wasn't put together very well. Transistions between scenes were choppy and abrupt. The tonal shifts between scenes also didn't work.

But, shirtless Tom makes everything, and anything, better!
costas22
Nov. 14th, 2010 08:24 am (UTC)
My opinion about the episode is more or less the same. I think this episode's focus was determined by the fact that Tom is directing Patriot. Taking that into consideration, almost 18 minutes for Clark is really good. And looking back at every episode that was shot before a TW directed epi, it was nice to know that Turbulence(before he had to pull out from directing Hex) and Abandoned were two episodes were Clark had the most ST. Tess isn't focused on at his expense. The disappointing part? That in both these episodes, Tom and Cassidy didn't have a lot of ST work with. And it's a shame too, because like you, I am a big fan of their scenes. If I had one complaint about the A plot of this episode, it would be that it ended abruptly after Clark saved Tess. We didn't get to see the scene between the two outside the orphanage. As for Tess being a Luthor, gosh, they've changed their minds on the poor girl so often, that the shock factor has evaporated to a large degree. I don't know if I like it yet or not. It depends on where they'll take her. With Lena being her middle name(Lutessa, wtf?), I don't buy her as the comics' Lena Luthor just yet. My main worry is that with every episode that she gains Clark and Oliver's respect and friendship, she has something new to hide from them. :(

As for the other stuff, I thought the Hatcher, Shanks and Slater(looking magnificent as always :D) cameos were saving graces in what was a contrived and unnecessary plot. I won't go as far as saying that there's no redemption for AI Jor El, but is this the best they can come up with? It's not like the last time the AI tormented Clark was back in Season 5. We've seen evidence up to the Supergirl episode to suggest that he is still doing the same. And when the real Jor El talked about not burdening Clark with his ego I had to laugh. Don't get me wrong, I thought that the AI made some valid points in Lazarus in regards to Clark's recklesness. However, when he said that Clark had darkness in him and then disowned him, I hoped that Clark would never go back to him. He doesn't need him imo and I don't know why Lois kept insisting that he did! I am sure she knows by now what AI Jor El has done and whether Clark still needs him or Jonathan in his life. But then again, I didn't understand why she felt she could fix the rift anyway. I am sure that's what poor Shelby was trying to tell her in the barn! Finally, and this could be just me, I am not on board with this wedding stuff that was heavily hinted at in Abandoned. I have no problem with Clois and I want Smallville to be an elseworld. But Clark marrying Lois before or at the same time he wears the tights, begins to fly and becomes Superman? Can't say I am thrilled about it. I just hope that if it does happen in the finale, it won't be the main focus.

Sorry for going on this long. But Cless episodes are always a spoecial occasion, heh. :)
tjw_jaypat
Nov. 14th, 2010 09:03 am (UTC)
TW prepping for Patriot can´t have been a big issue for Abandoned. SV was on hiatus for a whole week before they started shooting Patriot. (It was the week before the Canadian Thanksgiving.) So there was enough time to prep. Abandoned was simply written badly in terms of Clark.
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jwm_rocks
Nov. 14th, 2010 12:00 pm (UTC)
Quite a mixed bag of an episode. Way too much monologue for my tastes. I don't know why the writers insist on giving ED tons of dialogue with no one to play off.

While there was an attempt to link the stories together with a similar theme, the reality is that the stories just didn't seem to mesh well together at all.
Round hole. Square peg. I think they were trying to retroactively show Clark's inability to commit to Lois there in the teaser with some manufactured distance between them but it all kind just flies in the face of the prior couple of episodes.

You know what would've been more interesting to me? If Clark had instead told Lois that No, he didn't need anything from the AI because he's come to realize that its NOT his real father, and he knows that his real father and mother loved him.
I'd be down for that.

As for the engagement ring. They're making Clark's intentions crystal clear to the audience while keeping Lois in the dark. My SV senses are tingling. I'm predicting some future contrived drama will convince Clark he should back peddle a bit with Lois temporarily breaking her heart. Because you know, the writers have never pulled anything like that before on this show.


Pretty low Clark numbers this week. And a lot of that was listening to Mom and Dan or to Granny. I can't believe they didn't show Clark coming back for that poor little girl. I'll go one further on your proposal to cut the FOS scene. Clark could have talked to that little girl about how a parent's love for you is with you your entire life, even after they've died. I might have even settled for Clark bringing the girl back to the farm while they searched for a home for her and letting Lois wrap up her mommy issues by giving the girl that kind of speech.
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:19 pm (UTC)
I don't know why the writers insist on giving ED tons of dialogue with no one to play off.

Good point. I'm not a big fan of monologuing myself. I think its a very, very difficult thing for an actor to pull off.

The idea that Clark has been holding back from Lois just feels like a plot contrivance invented to justify this episode. If the show had tried to sell me that Clark had a hole in his heart caused by Jonathan's death, I would've bought it. But one caused by the AI Jor-El being an asshat? Not buying that.

Something I've been noticing (in 3 eps now) are these long scenes that Clark appears in, but he spends the majority of the time just standing there while someone else has all the dialogue. Is Tom too busy to memorize lines?

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goodvibe
Nov. 14th, 2010 12:53 pm (UTC)
Wow, it so didn't feel as if there was even 17 minutes there for Clark. I'm surprised.

I'm in total agreement on everything - this ep had a lot of potential, I think, had it known what to dial back on, and what to expand upon. But as is? A bit of a mess.

And this just shows you how much I pay attention to the credits because I didn't even realize we had Mrs Hartley on! I'm guessing she was Mad Harriet? I do so hope they revisit the furies. Surely they have to, given we have frikkin Darkseid on - they're a pretty badass bunch.

//I realize that the show is coming closer and closer to Superman, but it seems something of a conceit for them to think viewers are just going to be able to get a grip on these characters in 2 minute exposition scenes, and the rest they should just know from the comics. It reminds me of the recent talk about the anti-life equation that came up with Clark's "heart of darkness" arc, which means absolutely NOTHING to people who don't read the comics, so why would that resonate for me?//

Oh, god, speaking as someone who has been a comic book reader and has generally enjoyed reading Darkseid arcs, even then I've never been much fond of that damn anti-life equation. I've been thinking about this though, and I think it's not so much conceit, as it is probably laziness, on the part of the writers, perhaps? Because really, they had Desaad introduced here, and GG referring to the clubs and whatnot, and yet in an ep (Supergirl) where they had the ideal opportunity to intro him - they didn't. I don't get it. Maybe it is conceit, or perhaps a combo. With these writers, one never knows.
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:22 pm (UTC)
Like I said in your journal, there's a big gap in screentime for Clark in the middle of this episode, which is why I think it feels Clark-lite. Ironically, its very similar to Harvest in that way. Another episode that felt Clark-lite to people.

I would not be at all surprised if we never saw the Furies again. Which would make them a monumental letdown.

I don't know if its conceit or laziness, but either way, it annoys me.
wingster55
Nov. 14th, 2010 02:38 pm (UTC)
Yep. Agreed on pretty much everything.
Well I wasn't impressed with Erica's acting but that's not new for me.

I don't mean to compare..but isn't Lois thinking she knows what's best for Clark similiar to Chloe of s8-9 and Lana before that? Granted actions are different but..
That hologram of Jor-el and Lara was just bleh..what then Jor-El can do what he wants with Clark just because of a hologram? Suuure.

Cassidy was great. And Lindsay Hartley can be in all eps in that outfit.
svfan01
Nov. 14th, 2010 06:54 pm (UTC)
"I don't mean to compare..but isn't Lois thinking she knows what's best for Clark similiar to Chloe of s8-9 and Lana before that?"

When Lana and Chloe did things they thought was good for Clark they were very secretive about what they did and the plot went beyond one episode many times. Now if we got Lois running up there for a bunch of episodes behind Clark's back I can see your point, but I assume Lois was going to tell Clark what she did as soon as she got back.

In the case of Lana and her chamber of secrets and doing stuff behind Clark's back, I would argue she more often only had her interests in mind and many of the things she did behind Clark's back had nothing to do with helping him, and it might have been in the couples best interest if she actually communicated a bit better with Clark about what she is doing.

Chloe on the other hand did have more noble intentions but it would have been better once again if she sort of communicated with Clark about it before she got caught.
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carolandtom
Nov. 14th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
Once again I say a big WORD! to your whole post.

In spite of the effort the writers took to validate it, I didn't like Lois' storyline at all! I hated that Clark even thanked her for what she did instead of saying to her the things he should have said, (and that I was expecting him to say but I know that's too much to ask of these writers) The continuous confusion between Jor-El and the AI made me mad and I found the hologram scene plainly ridiculous. I confess that I never liked JS or HS as Clark's parents, in any way, and this time their acting was even weaker, IMO. Instead of being moved by the scene I was half annoyed half amused by the weakness and absurdness of it all.

I liked GG a lot! I loved the way she said her lines. I enjoyed the little Clark/Tess we got and, above all, I loved that Clark used one of his powers to save himself and then he saved Tess, not the other way around. I'm sick of Clark having to be saved by other people. He's the hero, show!

And, of course I LOVED shirtless Clark! Yum!

Anyway, you have already expressed everything I thought about the episode much better than I ever could. Thanks!
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:26 pm (UTC)
I hated that Clark even thanked her for what she did instead of saying to her the things he should have said, (and that I was expecting him to say but I know that's too much to ask of these writers)

Right there with you!

I just don't understand this constant confusion between real Jor-El, who died on Krypton, and AI Jor-El, who is a damn machine! So much of the dialogue was just nonsensical.

Clark saving himself, and then Tess, was awesome! This show gets a points for that! And Tom being shirless!!
(Anonymous)
Nov. 14th, 2010 05:50 pm (UTC)
Abandoned did felt like two episodes and should have done that approach. The only things I care about were Clark seeing his Kryptonian parents and him teaming up with Tess to investigate the orphanage run by Granny Goodness and the Female Furies.

In a way, this episode corrected Kandor, where Clark interacted with Jor-El for a few seconds in comparison to how much time Chloe, Tess, and Zod had with him. Here he interacted with he and Lara for 2 minutes.

Drew Landis and Julia Swift wrote both Pandora and Upgrade, neither episode did Clark any favors with Pandora that was Lois-centric and Upgrade that was an unnecessary out-of-character episode.

After not much focus on Tess for the first seven episodes, Abandoned was clearly Tess-centric and that title applies to her more than either Clark or Lois. The endscene involving Tess' flashbacks with Lionel and Pamela leaving her at the orphanage drove the point home. As for her real name, I'd prefer Contessa over Lutessa. It will be interesting to see what she does from this point onwards, but I don't believe she will betray Clark.

If Tess turns on Clark and his group, it will most likely be under Darkseid and Granny Goodness' doings than Lex himself.
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:30 pm (UTC)
Well, it was nice and all that Clark spent more time watching his dead parents, but I sort of feel that Kandor made Jor-El's message here completely redundant.

I think I see all the SV writers on the same playing field. On any given week, they can be good, or terrible. I've decided the blame, or credit, ultimately belongs with Souders/Peterson.

I don't even know where they came up with "Lutessa". Why couldn't she just have been Lena?

I don't foresee Tess turning on Clark and Co willingly, but I'm afraid that the choice might be taken away from her, which would be truly tragic.
tasabian
Nov. 14th, 2010 06:25 pm (UTC)
Though I thought having Teri Hatcher step in as Ella Lane was a nice touch, and her performance, and Erica's performance, were just fine, I can't really say that I was overly moved by this. And I truly expected to be, having lost a parent to cancer. But something fell flat. In the end, I think it was just the heavy-handiness in the dialogue for Ella.
All that trouble to snag Teri and they give her exposition, a speech that's barely about her daughter? What a waste! And I don't usually say this but that scene should have been all about Lois, not Clark and Jor-el.

You know what would've been more interesting to me? If Clark had instead told Lois that No, he didn't need anything from the AI because he's come to realize that its NOT his real father, and he knows that his real father and mother loved him.
That would have been so much better - and fit with the quietly confident Clark we saw last week, secure in who he is.

The actor who played Desaad was great with a tiny part. I hope we get more of him.
I hope he gets a featured episode - I think the chemistry with Clark would be epic!
jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:32 pm (UTC)
And I don't usually say this but that scene should have been all about Lois, not Clark and Jor-el.

I could not agree more. There just was no reason at all to try and draw parallels here. It felt forced and contrived, and strained credibility. And it wasn't needed.

I can't figure out for the life of me why they cut Desaad from Supergirl. That episode sure could've used something to lessen its level of suck.

svfan01
Nov. 14th, 2010 06:30 pm (UTC)
I thought it was a good episode. Sort of sad that simple things like Clark being happy or being portrayed as smart enough to get himself out of a kryptonite trap are considered huge positives when I watch the show, but given the show's history of mopey/depressed Clark or dumbed down to make another character more important then she should be by saving him Clark I guess I am somewhat jaded by TPTB that when they get things right it makes me happy.

I thought both storylines for the most part were entertaining for what they were and in the end the episode was there just to move the Darkseid storyline along(so I guess people can't bitch how the episode is "filler"). My mind might change on how good or bad this episode is when we see how the Tess is a Luthor storyline plays out by the end of the season.

At times I just wish they would have written Tess like S1-3 Lionel were we hardly know anything about him other then he is a butthole and does bad things, but in general that is not these(or the original) producers style. Why have an air of mystery for a character when we can have some "tragic" background(*yawn* I didn't care for it at times for Lex and now it's Tess' turn)seems to be the logic they go by. Since I am not that much into Tess' character I don't view that as a big negative though and am more then happy we go see Clark go head first to take care of the problem. In general though what I consider B storylines(in this case Tess back story) generally have limited effect how I rate an episode unless it completely takes down a story(Ollie from last year comes to mind)

Overall I gave the episode a 9.
+1 for Shelby
+1 for Clark not needing somebody running to the ends of the earth to get him out of a kryptonite trap(now was that hard?)
+1 for no Ollie whining about Chloe.

My biggest beef was they should have had a final scene of Clark and Lois at karaoke night.
svfan01
Nov. 14th, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
I should point out it was nice that Clark got a decent amount of screentime. It seems in the past many episodes right before TW directs end up sucking and come off really bad for Clark(Sleeper and Beast are 2 that come to mind that I thought were terrible Clark episodes but I believe Static(which had it's problems for Clark) is also in that group and I believe Void(which I actually didn't mind)).
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wrighty555
Nov. 14th, 2010 07:45 pm (UTC)
"Who has the orange juice obsession on this show?"


I just think it's a drink Clark has had since day one and it's something he just does.

"Helen Slater mates with Julian Sands and produces Tom Welling? Not likely!"

Yeah. What clark hasn't learned yet though is that the AI Jor-el is actually the milk man.

jeannev
Nov. 14th, 2010 10:36 pm (UTC)
Well, that would explain some things about the AI Jor-El then. LOL

I will never stop thinking that Lynda Carter should've been Lara, and Helen Slater should've been Moira Sullivan.
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