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On a side note, not SV related....can Supernatural stop killing off all the characters I like?  That'd be awesome, thanks in advance!

On the subject of Smallville, I see that this is an episode that lots of people loved a lot.  And I'm happy that others are really happy.  Now, my review is neither rant, nor rave.  It is critical on several points, but its also complimentary on some points.

I say all that because I find when it comes to some areas of SV, disagreeing about content gets taken as some sort of personal affront.  Which is, I think, silly.  But we all know it happens.  So, with an episode like this, that so many seem to be in love with, I felt it prudent to be upfront about the nature of my review, so people could avoid it if they aren't interested in a more critical (but not ranty negative) view.

I seem to be making a lot of Public Service Announcements lately, but  between having things I've said taken to other places to be picked apart (without my consent), and people personally attacking me, and the fact that my reviews seem to attract a lot of views (for which I am humbled, and grateful), I just thought it better to put it all out there before I even started the review.  Cool?  :)

Starting with the totals , as always:

Charade running time: 41m, 37s (Previously on:  44s)

Clark:  23m, 56s
Chloe: 10m, 38s
Lois:  25m, 15s
Tess:  2m, 5s

Ray Sachs:  7m, 45s
Maxwell Lord:  4m, 32s

Year to Date (# of eps)

Clark:  353m, 28s (19)
Chloe:  177m, 52s (19)
Lois:  265m, 49s (16)
Oliver:  152m, 7s (14)
Tess:  97m, 57s  (14)
Zod:  96m, 58s (10)




Charade was an episode that was, quite clearly, geared towards one aspect of Smallville.  Clois.  And I'd say it was equally geared to one aspect of the mythos, The Triangle for Two.  And I really do believe that how deeply your investment is in those 2 aspects of SV, and Supmerna mythology as a whole, is going to impact your feelings for this episode.

As everyone knows, I am not a shipper.  And my feelings on Clois have cooled considerably as the season has gone on.  Which is odd, because I expected my feelings for them to grow as the season went on, and so now I'm struggling with being further away from being on board that I started this season being.  But, still, there were several Clois scenes in this episode which I did like.

And also, as I've said before, I am NOT a fan of the Triangle for Two.  I didn't want it on SV, and I don't like it in the mythos.  Somehow, the whole charm of it just eludes me.  And no matter how well its done, in any version, I just never really feel the romance of it.  Because, reallly, at the end of the day, its lying, and trickery, sprinkled with a dash of cluelessness.

But, in the bigger mythos, I do have a better grasp on it, if only because Superman does appear to Lois, in all his glory, and she  is dealing with a living, breathing person, face-to-face, and she doesn't think he's Clark.

In SV, one of the main reasons I had little interest in seeing the T-for-2 is because The Blur is a voice on the phone.  And so, the level of Lois' devotion, and now infatuation, just doesn't  feel very believable to me.  I suppose Lois falling for the voice on the phone is meant to be very romantic, in some way.  But to a rather UNromantic person, such as myself, it doesn't quite cut it.

Another one of my big problems with the T-for-2 on SV is that the whole Lois/Blur thing has been rather sporadic, rather then something thats been built organically, and kept consistent.  Lets review, shall we?  Clark contacted Lois in Stilleto (S8, ep 19), she then doesn't appear in the next 2 eps.  Then we have her having to meet him in ep 22.  Then, we switch forward to S9, and Clark calls Lois as the Blur again, and enlists her help in Metallo.  But after that, he has no contact with her at all as The Blur until ep 8, Idol.  I guess I'm just not seeing where all this deep bonding happened.

UNTIL, and here's my biggest issue....Zod started calling her as The Blur, in Conspiracy.  And not just calling her, but enlisting her help, and sending her out on missions.  And so, we aren't talking about a T-for-2 any longer, because the reality is that a lot of what Lois is telling Clark, about feeling like she has a "higher calling", and feeling as though she's "doing something good" isn't coming from her communication with Clark/Blur, its coming from Zod/Blur.

And frankly, I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about that.  Because I guess, I can't shake the feeling that if Lois does know Clark is The Blur, deep down, subconsciously, then she'd also have a wrong feeling about The Blur she's talking to.

As it stands now, and I think this is a valid and fair question, for Lois, is this about any hero who calls her, and asks her help, and needs her, and makes her feel important.  Or, is this about Clark Kent, and the other side of him, who will be Superman?  Because if its the former, I'm just not sure how soulmate romantic thats supposed to be.

And so, I had a hard time connecting to the T-for-2 aspect of this episode, because there's another "Blur" in town, and Lois is responding to that one pretty strongly too. 

While I loved, loved, LOVED that we got some serious POV from Clark.  Finally!  I was still left confused about a few things.  When Clark is confronted by Chloe initially (and would she stop yapping at him like she's his mother!  Yeesh!), she says he doesn't plan on telling Lois anything.  Then, as the conversation goes on, he doesn't see why he can't tell her, and have a real honest relationship like Chloe and Oliver (*vomits*).  Then, he confronts Lois, and SHE is the one that gives voice to a reason she can't know.  Which, I guess, was Clark's reason all along?   

But, and this is where I am completely baffled, where does Clark think this relationship can go if he can never tell Lois?  What is the point in continuing on in a relationship like that, because he has to know that there is no way for that to end well.

And, another elephant in the room, is how safe is Lois now, with her not knowing Clark is the real Blur?  Will that keep her safe from Zod? (No!), Would that keep her safe from someone like Tess?  No.  It didn't even keep her safe from Sacks when she revealed that she'd chatted with The Blur.  So, I find some of that logic pretty faulty.

And I hate that, because I don't want to be frustrated by the decisions Clark is making.  And I'm really disappointed that it took us until episode 18 until we got ANY POV on this at all..

And I also found myself a bit removed from Lois' POV here too.  She, flat out, says that what she's doing with The Blur (Zod's Blur, BTW) is the "most important thing" in her life (and OUCH for Clark).  But she says she can never know who he is.  So, she's going to devote her life to taking phone calls from The Blur, and running around doing what he tells her?  I guess that just doesn't feel very much like "Lois Lane" to me.  Its very selfless, and all that.  No doubt.  But where's that ambitious reporter in all this?  Where is that "Take-No-Shit, I-can-handle-myself, Don't-Coddle-Me" chick we know and love?

This sort of devoting ones self, to this degree, smacks of....dare I say it?....Chloe!  At least more then what I would expect of Lois. 

I've often heard comics fans say "Lois Lane is no sidekick".  But isn't that precisely what Lois wants to be here? 

And I guess I also don't understand when Clark went from being "it" for it, to being a step down on the totem pole, and her not being able to answer him when he asks, point blank, if he's enough.  I just didn't see the build-up to that.  Not even last week, when Lois was quick to get off the phone with the Blur to run after Clark.

I understand that Clark isn't really offering Lois all of himself, and if she feels like he's holding back a fundamental part of himself, then that shouldn't be enough for her.  But is that what Lois thinks?  Or, is he really saying that her affection for Clark just isn't enough compared to her devotion to being The Blur's sidekick? 

So, I guess this is all to say....I think the concepts here, and the attempt they are making to bring this together, and the desire to have some sort of T-for-2 (because its MYTHOS, so it must happen....even if he really doesn't need to) is  much better then the actual execution of what they did, when one really puts it under the microscope.

But as we all know, the key to not letting SV drive you crazy is to put away the microscope.  LOL  But I just can't. 

I did think the Clois scene in the elevator was very cute. 

I was not as enamoured of the I'm seeing a part of you I don't like scene, as it seemed very reminiscent of scenes that have come before on this show.

I understand that how one values "The Mythos" and how that effects how one watches SV is going to vary from viewer to viewer.  I find myself much more committed to internal logic on the show itself.  But I recognize the Catch-22 of it all. 

AS for other aspects of the show, I really like Dylan Neal as Ray Sacks, though I'm not entirely sure that this episode needed him at all.

I don't really feel like I've seen enough of Gil Bellows' Maxwell Lord to know what I think of him.

Still no clue on who the Red Queen is. 

On the Chloe and Clark front, I just....I don't know what to say here.  It was a mixed bag.  I can't tell you how disappointed I am to see Clark fully embracing Chloe's "Big Brother" ideas, but I guess thats what the show is going for.  Chloe was right all along, Clark was wrong.  And now he's come around to her way of thinking.  In fact, if he's not willing to use his own powers to spy on Lois, why does he think its going to go to Watchtower, and ask Chloe to use its resources to?

And BTW, how did Chloe trace a phone call Lois was making from a pay phone?  In fact, did Clark stealing Lois' phone even yield any results?  I don't think so, so you have to wonder why they had him do it at all.  I guess to show how desperate he was to know who Lois was talking to as the Fake Blur, but still....I wish he hadn't.

I thought there was no reason for Lois to dress up as a Playboy bunny, aside from the fact that Erica has a great body.  I understand she needed to get inside, but Clark seemed to do fine with a tux, and pretending he was a guest.  By jumping out of the cake, Lois would immediately out herself to Sacks, which makes little sense.  I wish they had her disguised as a waitress or something.  Put her in something skimpy, if they must, but at least the cover would've made sense.

I really liked the new editor, and I also liked the fact that Lois and Clark having an interoffice romance was addressed, because that should be an issue for a new boss, I would think.  I liked his droll delivery.  He can stay around!  And I like the opportunity for storyline that it provides, at least for Clark, since his hiring at the DP was something of a dud.

Very nice effect, with Clark jumping through the glass, and his face merging with the image, but was I the only one who worried for all the people strapped down that got showered with glass?  LOL  Also, wouldn't it have been more important for Clark to go after Lord, then stand behind Lois and stare?  Sometimes, SV goes for these wonderful visuals, which this totally was, that just don't hold up to scrutiny.

Again, I need to back away from the microscope!  LOL.

I do want to give major, major props to Tom and Erica for some really fine performances.  They totally sold the material with everything they had.

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Comments

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tjw_jaypat
Apr. 24th, 2010 10:34 pm (UTC)
As usual, I agree with you! :)

The biggest problem for me was Clark´s surprise that Zod apparently doesn´t follow the "we´re brothers" thing. That means he really doesn´t have a back up plan, so Chloe will be validated. Bad, very bad.

Despite various typical flaws and plotholes, Charade was more enjoyable to me than the three previous episodes. That´s at least something. And we got lots of Tom, and great acting. And, I hate to say this, for a newbie Peterson did reasonably well with his directing. Maybe someone just needs to tell him how to runa show about pre-Superman...
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 03:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, I am not at all happy with the way they've dealt with the whole Clark/Zod/Kandorian thing. At this point, all I can hope for is that they have some Kandorians side with Clark in the end, because its really the only thing left that Clark can be right about.

I agree that Charada was better then the last 3 eps.
canadabear
Apr. 24th, 2010 10:48 pm (UTC)
I pretty much agree on everything you've said about the Clois stuff. Getting characterization instead of action isn't a bad thing, but that characterization needs to make sense and none of this did. I think the only thing I did like about this episode was Maxwell.
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 03:43 am (UTC)
I just don't quite understand why the show has such a problem in properly building up to a storyline. Because if this is where they wanted to go, thats fine, but why drop the ball so spectacularly?

I think Lord could be interesting, but I just didn't feel like I got enough here to know for sure. Still, I actually thought he was more interesting then Grier's Waller.
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jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 03:47 am (UTC)
I hate thinking that I have to NOT think too hard when it comes to SV.

For me, I just don't think the Lois/Blur build-up was there. And I think without that, on screen, her being so torn just doesn't work as well as it should, or could. The timeline I presented in my intial review is right on. So, really, I'd love to hear when people thought all this bonding, and feelings happened.

I just don't really see the Lois character as a person who would give up so much of her life to sidekick for a superhero. Not Lois in other versions, and not this Lois either.

I adore Tess, but I couldn't even deal with the Chloe/Tess scene. Just too irritating for me.
tasabian
Apr. 24th, 2010 11:50 pm (UTC)
Another one of my big problems with the T-for-2 on SV is that the whole Lois/Blur thing has been rather sporadic, rather then something thats been built organically, and kept consistent. Lets review, shall we? Clark contacted Lois in Stilleto (S8, ep 19), she then doesn't appear in the next 2 eps. Then we have her having to meet him in ep 22. Then, we switch forward to S9, and Clark calls Lois as the Blur again, and enlists her help in Metallo. But after that, he has no contact with her at all as The Blur until ep 8, Idol. I guess I'm just not seeing where all this deep bonding happened.
That's the head-scratcher - how in the world could she consider her relationship with Clark less important than with a disembodied voice on the phone? And when Lois talks about working with the Blur as something greater or bigger than herself, we haven't really seen that either. She's been rescued a few times and Zod is sending her on research errands. But the script made it sound far more exalted than what we've actually seen.

And I guess I also don't understand when Clark went from being "it" for it, to being a step down on the totem pole, and her not being able to answer him when he asks, point blank, if he's enough. I just didn't see the build-up to that. Not even last week, when Lois was quick to get off the phone with the Blur to run after Clark.
That scene in Upgrade made me hope that this would play out the other way round, that Lois would choose Clark over the Blur - advancing their relationship and driving Zod to take action on his own.

This sort of devoting ones self, to this degree, smacks of....dare I say it?....Chloe! At least more then what I would expect of Lois.
Also very characteristic of Lana from mid-S6. From a characterization point of view, it's attempting to make a character more likable by tearing away what's unique and interesting about her. Chloe used to take the fall for her mistakes; Lois used to have a more caustic tongue. But because the writers always seem so desperate to shield the female leads from fan-criticism, they all end up as martyred Pollyannas. "It's all about YOU, Clark/Blur! My whole life!" Hopefully, there's still time for Lois to break this pattern. The scene in Conspiracy where Clark breaks a date and Lois is disappointed but still takes herself out for a glass of wine? That's my gal!

So, she's going to devote her life to taking phone calls from The Blur, and running around doing what he tells her? I guess that just doesn't feel very much like "Lois Lane" to me. Its very selfless, and all that. No doubt. But where's that ambitious reporter in all this? Where is that "Take-No-Shit, I-can-handle-myself, Don't-Coddle-Me" chick we know and love?
IMO, It would have been more in character for Lois to pursue the Blur's identity with every fibre of her being, certain that she can keep herself and him safe. And I can imagine Lois wanting to protect Clark from danger - that bit of Charade rang true.

On the Chloe and Clark front, I just....I don't know what to say here. It was a mixed bag. I can't tell you how disappointed I am to see Clark fully embracing Chloe's "Big Brother" ideas, but I guess thats what the show is going for.
When Chloe talks about how she understands Clark's impulse to protect Lois, then references her cameras at the Fortress and the farmhouse as a way of "protecting the ones you love" - it's this grumpy, almost back door admission of her love for Clark. It makes me want a scene where she admits her control issues have gone completely out of control, that after the death of Jimmy, she's so desperate to protect Clark that she's ended up betraying him and repeatedly invading his privacy - that could be a good scene. But as you say, I doubt we'll get it.

I do want to give major, major props to Tom and Erica for some really fine performances. They totally sold the material with everything they had.
They were great - particularly loved Erica's performance when confronting the smarmy DA & Tom getting teary on the phone was fabulous.
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 03:53 am (UTC)
This episode truly did give me the impression that should it come down to a choice between Clark and The Blur for Lois, she'd choose The Blur. And that wouldn't sting quite so much of "The Blur" she'd choose wouldn't necessarily have to be Clark.

I always saw Lois as more of the type of person who isn't willing to give up herself. Not for anyone. Not even for a great cause. And ya know, I like that about her. Helping the Blur when he calls? Sure. But I'd much rather that Lois' calling, and higher purpose, be to her journalistic career, and finding a way to help people that way. That feels far more organice to SV's Lois to me, and to Lois Lane as a character, in general.

I really think the show has decided that Chloe wasn't wrong....about anything. Really, look back on the season, and what shady thing that she did has had negative consequences? None. And now they've very much brought Clark around to her way of thinking. Thoroughly validating Chloe.

Its always great to see the SV actors really stepping it up. It elevates the material.
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jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 03:55 am (UTC)
Thats fine. I made sure to put the disclaimer in there for that very purpose. I don't ask anyone to agree with me, just respect that I'm entitled to my opinion, as I respect opinions that differ from mine. The screentime minutes are always above the cut, so there's no need to bother with the review.
jlvsclrk
Apr. 25th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
I loved the episode, perhaps mostly because the last few episodes had left my enthusiasm flagging. Sure a lot of things don't make sense when held up to scrutiny, but that's Smallville for you! The last 20 minutes were so strong that I give the rest of the episode a pass, even if I was very dismayed by the confrontation on the street where Lois automatically ascribed the worst motives to Clark. But that's what comes of Clark not having her trust, so it all made sense in a terrible sort of way.

I didn't see Lois's relationship with the Blur as romantic in any way. What I do see is last episode, Lois had a profound experience when she helped out Metallo, and she was put in that position because the faux Blur asked her to investigate. The interesting thing is that Zod had no interest in helping Metallo at all, Lois did that more or less on her own. So I think she needs to learn that she doesn't need the Blur to get that sense of fulfillment.

And of course, Clark needs to learn the lesson that there's no way he can keep his loved ones safe by hiding his head in the sand. I for one don't believe knowing the secret makes Lois any more or less safe, even if she didn't interact with Clark or the Blur at all - it's simply her nature to get in trouble! And certainly Clark's relationship with Lana showed him that revealing the secret is not some magical cure all. So he has to learn to live with his fear.
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 04:01 am (UTC)
Well, this ep was definitely a step up from Escape, Checkmate and Upgrade. Thats for sure.

I guess I'm not entirely sure why Clark wouldn't have Lois' trust. Even if we know what he's hiding, she doesn't. So, is she really so entitled to jump the worst conclusion about him? I'm not quite so sure that it was justified.

So I think she needs to learn that she doesn't need the Blur to get that sense of fulfillment.

I think she does too, and I hope she does. I don't think The Blur needs a sidekick, and I don't think Lois should be gunning for the job. I'd much rather she about her own career, and looking for ways to do good with her own powers. The powers of the press.

Knowing the secret, not knowing the secret...there really isn't a good option here for someone so closely entwined with Clark Kent. And I guess I think Clark should already know that. This episode gave us more Clark POV then we've had, but I still don't know how Clark thinks he can proceed with a relationship with Lois while lying about who he truly is. If he feels he can't tell her, I do get that. But why does he think he can keep dating her, and getting more serious, without telling her? There's a disconnect there that I do think is confusing.

Edited at 2010-04-25 04:01 am (UTC)
shardsofblu
Apr. 25th, 2010 06:26 am (UTC)
So, she's going to devote her life to taking phone calls from The Blur, and running around doing what he tells her? I guess that just doesn't feel very much like "Lois Lane" to me. Its very selfless, and all that. No doubt. But where's that ambitious reporter in all this? Where is that "Take-No-Shit, I-can-handle-myself, Don't-Coddle-Me" chick we know and love?

I have to admit that for me, the whole thing was tottering dangerously on how the show has always presented Chloe and Lana feeling inadequate in their self-esteem and making Clark as a point of validation. Of course, they ended up on the both extremes of the spectrum -- with Chloe getting so arrogant in her own worth and importance, and Lana literally changing herself to change the world.

But the last two scenes did give more insight on where Lois was coming from, and I thought it was done very well. I really do get the sense that what's she cherishing is not the Blur himself, but this sense of purpose he's providing for her. For the time being, I appreciate the way they're setting this up for her to learn that she doesn't need anyone else validation, that she can be fully secure with herself on her own.

(Even though she's supposed to have already begun to grasp that way back in Stiletto. The nature of the the endless loops of SV, I guess.)
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 09:47 pm (UTC)
I hope you are right about Lois, because I think that would be a worthwhile outcome of all of this Blur devotion. I'd love Lois to come to the conclusion that she doesn't need to sidekick for anyone, because she has her own higher calling to pursue, through the power of the press. To me, this is an aspect of Lois' characterization that I'd really like to see developed in S10.

And yeah, people on this show seem to be slow on the learning curve sometimes.
goodvibe
Apr. 25th, 2010 09:58 am (UTC)
Is fandom being a bitch again? I feel for you, having to stsrt your reviews with a goddamn PSA. You really shouldn't have to.

Suffice to say, I think you already know how much we're in agreement over this ep. Especially about the T-for-2 nonsense, because that's exactly what it is right now - when it isn't even an authentic T-fpr-2 scenario, for fucks sake.

At certain points I understood where both Clark and Lois were coming from and at certain points I wanted to smack them both. I was disappointed in both, yet felt for them as well, but damn if ultimately my heart didn't absolutely break for Clark.

ITA about TW and ED as well. They were nothing short of marvelous in this ep.

I'm so, so weary about the rest of the season.
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 09:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, fandom is always a bitch. I just thought since so many people were in love with this episode, they might not want to read a review that wasn't in love with it.

I'm sure someone will figure out how to be offended by that though.

I also felt for both Clark and Lois. Feeling for them was not the problem whatsoever. But you want their actions, and reactions, to make sense to you when you're watching them. There's an emotional component, which was no problem with this ep, and a logical component, which is where I think the flaws lie.

S9 has been something of a disappointment to me overall, and I don't expect the remaining 3 eps to change my view overly much. But, we'll see.
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agentobrian
Apr. 25th, 2010 12:05 pm (UTC)
Average ST:

Clark- 18m, 36s
Chloe- 9m, 22s
Lois- 16m, 37s
Oliver- 10m, 52s
Tess- 7m, -
Zod- 9m, 42s

"Is fandom being a bitch again? I feel for you, having to stsrt your reviews with a goddamn PSA. You really shouldn't have to."

Co-signs.

"And BTW, how did Chloe trace a phone call Lois was making from a pay phone?"

This I can accept, because tracing calls made on pay phones has been done before (not on SV, but on other shows). What lost me a little was how they were able to hear her conversation.

"In fact, if he's not willing to use his own powers to spy on Lois, why does he think its going to go to Watchtower, and ask Chloe to use its resources to?"

This has been an issue with me at times when it comes to Clark- he's way too unwilling to get his hands dirty, so he uses other people who are willing to to do his dirty work.
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 09:54 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the averages, as always :)

Oh wow, you know I was so fixated on Chloe tracing the phone call, it didn't even dawn on me how silly it was that they could hear it. LOL

jwm_rocks
Apr. 25th, 2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
having things I've said taken to other places to be picked apart (without my consent), and people personally attacking me
Well that's just full of suck. What kind of person does that? Yeash. But I can see why lots of people are interested in your reviews. ;)

Ouch on Tess' minutes.

Personally I enjoyed the episode a lot. I loved the DP related stuff, just ate it up like candy. I guess the relationship stuff worked OK for me not because it made much sense but because TW and ED sold it so well.

I suppose Lois falling for the voice on the phone is meant to be very romantic, in some way.
Maybe it is supposed to be romantic. I don't doubt Lois loves the Blur but I just don't (or maybe a better word is won't) believe the love is romantic, at least not in the traditional sense that Lois wants to be part of a couple.

Another one of my big problems with the T-for-2 on SV is that the whole Lois/Blur thing has been rather sporadic, rather then something thats been built organically, and kept consistent
Very true. I guess for me even without the phone calls I could see Lois could build admiration, or even a fixation just watching the things the Blur has accomplished and knowing that he's saved her bacon on multiple occasions. It wouldn't necessarily be a healthy fixation but I think I could buy it.

Because I guess, I can't shake the feeling that if Lois does know Clark is The Blur, deep down, subconsciously, then she'd also have a wrong feeling about The Blur she's talking to.
I have a hard time believing that Lois knows even subconsciously, at least not yet, because I don't think there are examples where she found out that support her even having an inkling. Doesn't mean I don't think they've dropped the ball in a serious way with their Zod/Blur switchero. I don't see how one day she can hear the "loneliness" in a modulated voice and the next can't tell it's a completely person on the phone.

But, and this is where I am completely baffled, where does Clark think this relationship can go if he can never tell Lois? What is the point in continuing on in a relationship like that, because he has to know that there is no way for that to end well.
Hmmm. Let me think. Nope. I've got nothing either. I think I'm actually dreading the next time Clark utters the words "I know what I have to do." in regard to his relationship with Lois.

This sort of devoting ones self, to this degree, smacks of....dare I say it?....Chloe!
LOL, what's the term for this? An inconvenient truth? Maybe by this time next year Lois will even be telling the Blur how to do his job!

Still no clue on who the Red Queen is.
I would love it to be Lana. It'd maybe make some sense that Martian Manhunter was working with her but I don't think they could keep a return of KK under their hats. Barring Lana the other person I'd like for it to be is Tess. For someone being hunted by Checkmate she seems to be popping up a lot.

I guess to show how desperate he was to know who Lois was talking to as the Fake Blur, but still....I wish he hadn't.
Yep. My guess too. He seemed chagrined about having stolen it which I found kind of cute. The thing is as you pointed out Chloe doesn't need the phone. She can easily track all of Lois' calls (and I thought she was!?!?) just knowing her number. So here's my question... has Chloe stopped monitoring calls since Idol or was she only monitoring the phone calls of specific people? I was kind of shocked (in a really bad way) to see that her spy cameras were still operational in Persuasion. Given that I find it hard to believe she would have given up her auditory snooping.

I really liked the new editor
Oh, me too. Agree with that whole graph!

was I the only one who worried for all the people strapped down that got showered with glass?
Heh. I'm so callous! They didn't even enter my mind. I was thinking, "That's just the stupid display! All that stuff is stored on a hard drive somewhere. Destory the hard drive!" LOL

Enjoyed reading your review as always and thanks for the screen times!
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 10:04 pm (UTC)
I really think Tess was underused this season. And I'm SO disappointed in what they've done in the scenes between her and Clark. I was so hoping that they would let something a bit more complex and dimensional happen there, but instead, its just been cringeworthy, and now in the home stretch, we're back to focusing more on her connection to Oliver. Disappointing.

I don't see how one day she can hear the "loneliness" in a modulated voice and the next can't tell it's a completely person on the phone.

Yes! Exactly! They are trying to sell this soulmate connection, but I just don't know how you can reconcile that with Lois responding to a Fake Blur. Even if he was keeping it all business, wouldn't even that raise some red flags for her?

I keep thinking that if the show continues on, with Clark determined that Lois can't know his secret, then I think a Clois break-up is likely to happen. Not permenant, of course. We know it can't be. But it just seems to me that something has got to give.

I know in the old days, when the Chloe/Chlois/Lois debates used to rage, one of the stalwart arguments of Chloe not being Lois was that Lois would never let herself become someones sidekick. Which, I agreed with. And yet, here we are, and The Blur's sidekick, at-the-ready, is precisely what Lois wants to be. And I guess I'm not entirely sure when that become a good thing for her character.

Lana as the Red Queen? I have to admit. It would cool, in a twisted way. But I think Tess is most logical answer.

Hmmm, good point about Chloe monitoring phone calls. I think its one of those SV things, where it happens when its needed by the plot, and doesn't happen when it isn't needed by the plot, LOL

I was glad that stealing Lois' phone was something Clark was very, very uncomfortable with. That went a long way.

I don't know why I should be even worried about people getting showered with glass. If Clark can take down the top of a skyscraper in the middle of the city with nary a scratch for a civilian, or any damage to surrouning structures, showering unconscious people with glass shouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

So, are you liking this whole lj thing? I think it suits you.



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Apr. 25th, 2010 01:18 pm (UTC)
Me neither I didn't buy the love story between Lois and the Blur... It's just that from Clark's side, it's like she was in love with another man !

And totally agree about her "calling" thing... running errands for somebody else is very out of character for Lois Lane. On that matter, SV!Lois is different a lot from Comicbook!Lois !

And Chloe and Oliver are a couple-role-model ??? *g* PLEASE ! That got me spitting on my screen! LOL
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 10:08 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm not sure how Clark feels about Lois being torn between him and the Blur, except for knowing that their dating relationship is not the most important thing in her life. But on the flipside, is their romantic relationship the most important thing in his life either?

I know that SV has its own take on all the characters, to include Lois. I guess I just liked thinking that Lois stood apart from Lana and Chloe, because she wasn't willing to give up what she wanted in life for any person, hero or not. Ya know what I mean?

Yeah, when did Chloe and Oliver become the standard by which other couples should shoot for? What a crock!
(Anonymous)
Apr. 25th, 2010 06:21 pm (UTC)
Just a comment from a random reader
Hi Valerie,

Please know that I absolutely respect your right to present your views on your website. I disagree with pretty much your entire approach to the show; however, never in a million years would I disrespect your right to have those opinions nor would I ever bash you for having those opinions. This is subjective material and everyone's views on the show are equally valid. My only real issue with fans of this show (where I take personal offense) comes in when it turns into personal attacks upon the actors, which clearly, I have never seen from you. The minute a fan chooses to attack the actors they are no longer credible reviewers in my eyes. Therefore, while I may not agree with you much and while I may feel that we just have totally different perspectives on the material, I do appreciate that you always keep your critcisms to the fictional material and not to the real people working tirelessly to make this show a reality.

That being said, I want to remind you of something.

I'm sorry that you feel that you need to start your reviews with a PSA and I'm sorry if you feel that others have taken your comments from this site and debated them on other forums. Honestly, I'm still relatively new to this whole LJ thing so I had no idea that people were even doing that. I know that I've certainly never done it.

That being said, when I'm not a rabid Smallville fan, I'm an attorney. Your LJ account is a public website. It is not private. I can access it without even having an LJ account. You have chosen to put reviews and thoughts on a public website. When information is put on a public website it is no longer private. Therefore, people have every right to take what you've said and debate it or discuss it or even pick it apart if they want to on other forums. They don't need to ask your permission to do so just as they don't need to get consent to discuss anything else that they see on the internet. Now, if these people were actually lifting your reviews word for word and trying to take ownership of something that you've said that might be a different story. But, in general, there is nothing wrong with someone reading yoru review and then talking about it or disputing it on another forum. It's like uploading photographs onto your facebook page. Once you upload those photographs they are now public. They are no longer private because you've chosen to share them on the internet. So if someone takes those photos and posts them somewhere else, you can't argue that you didn't give your "consent" because you consented by making them public information. In general, the minute we put something out there on the web we have "consented" to people talking about it in any way that they like.

Please know that I'm not trying to be harsh here nor am I excusing immature behavior. You are absolutely right. Fandom gets out of control sometimes and people act like children. Just because someone CAN do something doesn't mean that they SHOULD. I'm not excusing people being nasty to you or yelling at you because they don't agree. Clearly, that's crappy behavior. But I do think you need to remember that you have a public website that anyone can access. Therefore, once you put your opinion out there, people are free to respond to it however they please. They don't need your consent nor does it make them technically wrong to do so.

Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts with everyone. Wishing you the best.

-from MJ
jeannev
Apr. 25th, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC)
Re: Just a comment from a random reader
No, I don't attack actors, except for occasional disagreements with how they played a scene, or a lack of chemistry. I keep it about the acting. I wish everyone would.

As far as the rest of your comment, I am well aware that this is a public journal. I keep it so because I don't hide anything about my opinions. I'm honest, up front, and what you see is what you get. But, I don't think there's anything wrong with me asking people not to be petty toads, and not to take things I've said and go chat about elsewhere. I can't stop them, of course. But I sure as hell can call them out for it. As for how "wrong" it is, I think its situational, and I also think thats a matter of individual opinion.

I was never under any delusion that this was some sort of thing I could enforce legally. I don't care about any of that.

In any case, if anything I say offends people because my opinion doesn't agree with theirs, then maybe they need to stick to places where everyone is in lockstep with 1 opinion. If Group Mind is your thing, then maybe here is not where one should be.

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katyjane91
Apr. 25th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
Yes! Okay, I want to hug you right now. Half because you are SO reading my thoughts on this epi and half because I'm so freaking depressed still and I need the hug :(

Now, I LOVE the Clois. I have absolutely loved every little scene they've given us up until this episode. This epi made Lois look like a bitch.
I mean, in the comics and in LnC, whenever they had the Tfor2 relationship, they always made it clear that, while Lois idolized and maybe even loved Superman, she always had this strange connection to Clark. It was romantic as well as friendship. And they always had her working on stories and things on her own, as opposed to sidekicking it around and begging for hero scraps from Superman.
This epi made me so angry that I am still depressed. They made Lois into this....indecisive hooch who can't separate the great guy shes dating from a fairytale guy that she has never met or seen.
It's like the SV writers wanted the triangle, without realizing that the reason Lois loved Superman in the comics was because she had actually MET HIM, and because he was so real and....there.
It just.....none of it made any sense and they basically sorta ruined my favorite couple ever. Maybe not completely yet, and they could still fix things but....shes not even in next weeks episode! Which means that she was, what, so self obsessed and blur obsessed that shes leaving for another week?
GAH! Why do I keep watching this show? I want to beat the shit out of whoever wrote this episode!
And its made even worse that all the other Cloisers apparently loved this epi. I don't even....

Oh, and ditto on the the costume for Lois. Smallville: whoring out its female characters for ratings since 2001.
jeannev
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:39 am (UTC)
*hugs you back*

You get a hug just because we're lj friends :)

I'm so sorry this ep bummed you out, because ya know, I understand what my issues were with it, and why, and how I come at the show, but I don't want my Clois buds to be bummed out :(

I think its a really confusing situation they've created, and to be honest, I still can't tell you where I end up with it all. Clark definitely started this whole nonsense, and so I hang a lot of the blame on him (which KILLS me, as I'm sure you know). But bottom line, Lois' thing for The Blur just sorts of rings false for me. If I keep strictly to the content of SV world, and not fall back on the mythos arguement.

Like you said, the fact that Lois doesn't have that one-on-one interaction, in person, with The Blur like she does with Superman in other versions makes a big difference for me. And the fact that Lois' interaction with The Blur has been so sporadic is another red flag. And I have a hard time reconciling that, with how Lois acted in this episode. Where, truth be told, if did feel like Clark was a 2nd choice to The Blur. And as much as she said it wasn't romantic, how could that whole touching his hand thing, with the tear running down her cheek, not appear romantic? Well, it did to me, anyway.

I think when it comes to the costume thing, its a combination of going to that well too often, and coming up with illogical costumes and scenarios, thats sort of turning me off that. I had no issue with Lois' stripped outfit in Exposed, because it sort of made sense. But now I'd just like them to give it a rest of a while. Or, put her in more stormtropper outfits, where she not only looked completely adorable, but it totally made sense for the scenario.
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(Anonymous)
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:44 am (UTC)
Britas15. Hiya!
Great review. I think you gave voice to a number of different issues with this episode. I'm gonna point something of my own out, and then address a few other things that you brought up.

(1) I think you know that I've gone off Lois as a character, and that I did so way back in "Escape." Well, having watched "Charade" again, I continue to see reasons for me to not care about this character.

"Charade," I think, made Lois into even more of a child than "Upgrade" did; and made Clark into her father/keeper all the more. Clark said something about how half of being in a relationship with Lois is protecting Lois from herself, as if she's an infant whose fingers he has to keep out of a socket. Clark also made a comment about Lois being an acquired taste, in order to keep her from making a bad first impression with the new boss, because, apparently, Lois can't be bothered to be courteous to a stranger, even when that stranger is her new boss. Clark physically restrained her from going after her new boss, because, apparently, Lois has no self-control. And Clark persists in speaking for her: "What Lois meant to say was..." So yeah, I take issue with that stuff. And since I can't like a character who behaves like and is treated like a child, I can't be bothered to care about the character.

(2) I agree with what you and others here have said, that it's totally disappointing that, all of a sudden, Lois wants to be The Blur's sidekick. Lois is devoted to The Blur, to the exclusion of everything else in her life? Not caring about the risks? Calling him the boss? Yeah, as you said, that's extremely Chloe-like.

[WARNING: SPOILERS] What I'm hoping happens is that Perry retuning in "Hostage" and Lois working with him helps Lois remember that being a reporter is a calling, and that it is something good, and that it can help the world. She can be her own hero, is what I'm hoping her time with Perry teaches her. [END SPOILERS]

And while I'm on this topic, did you notice that Clark had to run to Chloe (and Chloe's resources) for help finding Sacks, but Lois found him first, all on her own? C'mon, that tells me that Lois is an AWESOME investigator and reporter. When did she forget that? When did she stop caring about that?

(3) You totally hit the nail on the head about Clark's hypocrisy. His relationship with Lois is not his priority, as we've seen all season long, and as he's been saying all season long. So, is it really fair for him to get all that upset when it turns out that Lois now views their relationship the same way? Also, wasn't it back in "Bulletproof" that Clark realized that the world doesn't have to come first? That there can be balance in his life? That needing and having something for oneself only makes one a better hero? Why has he regressed on that front, with no mention of why?

(4) I think that someone here said that it's almost like Clark goes to Chloe to do his dirty work. And I'm not comfortable with that. Clark won't use HIS powers against Lois; but he will get Chloe to use HER powers against Lois. Not okay. If Clark can't do it himself, then he shouldn't be getting anyone else to. Also, I think we disagree on this point: I didn't see him being all that bothered about taking Lois's phone. And if he was bothered, there should've been a line about it. Something like, "As much as I hated doing it, I stole Lois's phone. I couldn't think of another way to figure out who's been calling her without telling her my secret."

(5) Lastly, I TOTALLY LOVED STERN. I agree with you that he can stay. He was adorable. He was memorable. Also, can we keep Sacks around? I'd love to see him be an on-going thorn in Lois's and Clark's sides next season. And that Lord didn't bother me is enough. He was, I think, better than Waller. So, he can come back, too.
jeannev
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:58 am (UTC)
Re: Britas15. Hiya!
Hey you. I figured you'd be over here to discuss soon, and I'm glad :)

For one thing, how you phrased that paragraph about Lois cracked me. The infant/socket line was classic. And I can see what you are saying. I think this is the way the show is trying to tell us that Lois is brassy, and ballsy, and takes huge risks, and is fearless. Which, really, are all interesting things for a character. But I can also see how that can go a bit wrong, and turn one off a character.

I'm also not sure that emphasizing this aspect of Lois' character on one hand, then having her justify not knowing The Blur's identity "for her own good" is sort of a curious dichotomy that I'm not totally sure works for her.

I guess I really, really want, deep down,for her to say "Fuck That, I can take care of myself. I'm happy to help you, but whats with the mystery?", because thats sort of more along the lines of how I picture Lois.

I'm hoping that Lois gets to a point where she realizes that she's no sidekick, and she has her own path to a higher calling that can help people with her journalism. I think thats a good direction for her.

This episode had a lot of Clark running to Chloe again. I was disappointed. It felt a bit like a throwback to earlier seasons.

I realize that the show created a dire situation, with Clark finding out that a Fake Blur was calling Lois. I just think that they could've figured out a better way to handle that situation, and shown Clark trying to figure out who she was talking to.

I think both actors that played Stern and Sachs were right on. And I do think they are the sort of characters that would be great on a recurring basis. I thought it was about time that Lois and Clark's personal relationship was brought up in relation to its appropriateness in the work place. I think work place romances can work out OK, and we all know Clois' will, but its also valid to have a boss bring it out into the open, and not be happy with it. That was a very nice, realistic touch in this ep, I thought.
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la_belle_isa
Apr. 26th, 2010 03:53 am (UTC)
Since a lot of Clark fans loved the episode, I decided to watch it. The first I watch since Escape. Generally,I'm not someone who analyses episodes, I like it or I don't like it; and that's why I love reading reviews from people like you who see all sorts of things that I don't.
So, I thought Clark was awesome in this episode. His pov was articulated for the first time in a long while, he investigated, he had intelligent lines, it seems like a long time that I haven't seen that.
But I don't get Lois. And I thought she was almost OOC with all that crying and blind devotion to a ghost. In fact, that last scene reminded me of Chloe and Jimmy, when Jimmy was obviously not enough for Chloe. Lois looks bored by her boyfriend. I think the show is going there with Lois to elevate her to hero status too. She has a higher calling like Clark has a higher calling. I agree though that in sv, it's beyond ridiculous that everyone knows Clark's secret except for his girlfriend. It makes no sense. Anyway imo, SV has yet to prove that they can write a relationship that works. The only way to go with it now sv style is a break-up. And to think that the only thing I want for Clark is hot making out scenes and the poor guy doesn't get any, even with his girlfriend. *sigh*
I liked Stern and Sachs too. Sachs looks totally like a cartoon character.
jeannev
Apr. 26th, 2010 05:17 pm (UTC)
I really did love how much of Clark's POV was articulated. But I did find a lot of what he said a bit contradictory. He seemed to flip-flop on some issues, even in the same scene! He goes from "I'm not telling Lois anything" to "Why can't I tell Lois everything?" in the space of 60 seconds. Then, we're back to "Oh yeah, I can't tell her anything". It was a little too much whiplash for me.

But, having said that, and no matter what issues I had with what Clark articulated, I absolutely, positively think that this episode was far more on point with how it allows us into Clark's POV and thinking process, and its precisely whats been missing for far too much of this season.

I don't want to keep repeating myself, but I just had a lot of issues with Lois' devotion to The Blur, for 2 main reasons, the inconsistency of her relationship with him, and the fact that her recent devotion is to a fake Blur. And honestly, I haven't seen much in the way of discussion of these 2 very huge issues.

My personal preference would be for Clark to tell Lois the truth, and then for S10 to address how Clois works with her knowing the secret. I'd really love to see SV break down that wall, and let Clark finally be in a relationship, thats honest, and that we know is going to work. Thats the sort of upswing I'd love to see the show go out on.
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serenography
Apr. 26th, 2010 04:37 am (UTC)
Well, you've already read my thoughts on this episode (and other schtuff!), but I want to reiterate how sorry I am to hear that you've gotten some grief from people about your reviews. I'm also relieved, and not surprised, that you will keep on keeping on, as you always do.

SV fandom needs more articulate and honest people like yourself who are willing to put your opinions out there, but also mature enough and willing enough to hear and discuss other perspectives.

While I loved, loved, LOVED that we got some serious POV from Clark. Finally!

High five. And this is why I think this episode was so much more universally enjoyed across all of the fandom. Gee, you'd think TPTB would notice how happy it makes everyone to actually "hear" from Clark's POV.
jeannev
Apr. 26th, 2010 05:21 pm (UTC)
Oh, don't be sorry. I'm not a delicate flower, so its not a huge issue. In fact, I think others have made it a far bigger issue then I ever intended to.

SV fandom is "special". We all know that by now.

As I said to the comment right above you, Clark's POV was so desperately needed. And whatever the issues I had with the way it didn't always make sense to me, I can deal with that as long as I HEAR IT! This episode managed to do what so many eps this season didn't. Which is allow us a glimpse into Clark's head. Its been way, way overdo.
(Anonymous)
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:36 pm (UTC)
Has anybody pointed out Lois outpacing the star of the show on screentime minutes again? Cos if so, I'm doing it. Ugh.
(Anonymous)
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:38 pm (UTC)
eta- thx for the mins, btw.
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Apr. 27th, 2010 04:50 am (UTC)
Wha-Huh?!
Wow. I agree with so much of what you've said about this episode. I absolutely HATED it during the first viewing! *cries*

"I guess that just doesn't feel very much like "Lois Lane" to me. Its very selfless, and all that. No doubt. But where's that ambitious reporter in all this? Where is that "Take-No-Shit, I-can-handle-myself, Don't-Coddle-Me" chick we know and love?"

Yes! This is at the heart of why I didn't like it. This just wasn't Lois to me. That's one of the reasons why I loved Lois hanging up on the Blur in "Upgrade." Clark has already blurred away but I loved Lois... choosing Clark over the Blur even belatedly. *sigh* I dunno. I did think of Chloe a lot during some of Lois' speeches about the Blur being most important and throwing over her job for him. It's not EXACTLY the same but... what's that saying a mouse could starve on the difference.

That's not to say that Lois couldn't have this kind of devotion to the Blur. But... having it all happen offscreen... is really bad. And also she's worked more for Zod that we know of than she has for Clark. I mean she had that incomprehensible speech in Rabid about working with the Blur...so she must have worked for him a bit offscreen I guess... but... GRR!

There was a lot that I really liked upon second viewing. I AM a shipper and I AM a Clois fan. I loved Lois and Clark investigating and the competitive stuff... and the elevator... but... yeah.

Oh! And Ally McBeal guy giving us one of those sappy season 8 "I don't know you Clark and Lois but I know that you are DESTINED to be together" speeches... GAG! I hated that too! *sad face*
jeannev
Apr. 27th, 2010 04:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Wha-Huh?!
Oh, I'm sorry you weren't happy with this. I know you've been a big fan of a lot of the Clois stuff this season.

As a good friend of mine said, we need to remember that Lois is on a journey too. And if all this Blur worship/sidekick stuff leads to Lois saying "Ya know, screw this, I can find a way to make a difference in my own way", then I think it will all be worth it.

Lois Lane is no ones sidekick! And you know who has more often posted something like that? Lois Lane fans! So, I would expect that seeing her tell The Blur that she's ready for his next order would be a bit cringeworthy for Lois fans.

And then there's the problem of the inconsistent storyline building thats happened along the way. I'm not exactly why, if this is where they wanted to go, they didn't keep the Lois/Blur thing a consistent part of nearly every episode building up to this moment.

I've never been a huge fan of characters showing up and talking about the "connection" any couple has. It feels cheap.
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jeannev
Apr. 27th, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
Why should you feel like a bad Clark/Lois fan? Hey, maybe you are, in fact, the best kind of Clark/Lois fan because you have very high standards for your OTP, and you are bothered when the show fails to do them the justice that they deserve.

;)

I have given a lot of thought to some of the other comments I've read about Lois connection to The Blur, and how its really to Clark, even though Clark's Blur hasn't been in contact with her for months, and it wasn't Zod...and all that. But I just can't get that to make sense for me. The reality is that this work, and sidekick stuff, that Lois seems to be getting so much validation from just did not originate from Clark's Blur. And thats a huge part of the storyline to have to overlook.

Like you, I think if this is where they wanted to go, then they should've had Clark continue on with the contact as The Blur. After all, isn't that very much like the mythos? And if thats the way the show must go, then so be it.

I'm hoping that where this whole story is leading to for Lois is for her to realize the power she has within herself, and for her to recommit to being a crusading journalist. And if she says she doesn't need any hero, no matter how commendable he might be, to give her marching orders. If they end up there, then I'll be able to see how this part of the journey was worthwhile. Because, really, another woman who wants to lose herself in Clark's life? No thanks. We've had 2 already.
(Anonymous)
Apr. 28th, 2010 11:23 am (UTC)
"I only watch it for the PRETTY!!!"
One of the good things about watching SV after everyone else is that one gets to read so many valuable perspectives on the same issue.(Before I forget: thank you for the ST.) This ep. was what I call"the-Red-Sea-ep." because it parted waters.I don't know how to approach SV anymore.They're reaching the end of the season so it was inevitable that they went for the "angst-ep."and obviously resume the "The-triangle-for-2"(never liked in the SM mythos and I like it even less in SV: simply because it reflects badly on both Clark and Lois) .But I understand:it's the proverbial alignment with the mythos(personally I think that's what's destroying the show but whatever).So let's be pragmatic shall we(*talking to myself here*)there's a S10 coming up and they needed to start building it up.Ok.I won't go into many details about the ep. because everyone already said so much with wich I agree.I will say this: as ashamed as I am to confess it I only watched the ep. for the PRETTY that Tom is.And that bothers me like you wouldn't believe because both Tom and the show deserved better.And that makes me feel so shallow but there it is:I'll admitt what I've always been accused for from family and a few friends and always denied(and at the time it was true)!I just don't "feel it" anymore maybe because I'm not a comics fan.
OH...and yeah! one last thing:Lois coming out of the cake dressed in the playboy bunny suit...oh SV why do you keep going there?I know that the majority of the audience is male but still Lois is and should be portrayed as so much more.I always resented the fact that since the beginning they went for the "bimbo approach". And this season they decided to go"all the way". Why? It's a sci-fi adventure show based on the comics. So what?It's pop culture and it could be just as good as other genres.I apologise to all the fans but there's no way this Lois is going to become a well respected journalist. And I don't want her to be a sidekick to our hero. She has to be a round-shaped character on her own.And ultimately be the suitable match for the "hero among heros" but I honestly don't see it.I just wish that in S10 Tom gets to have more input.I don't know.It's the most optimistic I can be I guess.
#Theresa S#
Here you go girl: now it's in the right place . (*proud of myself; next week I'm going to begin with the solid foods *)
jeannev
Apr. 28th, 2010 04:49 pm (UTC)
Re: "I only watch it for the PRETTY!!!"
I actually think this whole season might qualify as "The-Red-Sea-Season". It really seems to be polarizing, as far as I've seen.

I also think this new found obsession with "mythos" hasn't totally been a positive for the show overall. Especially when they're lazy about it.

As much as I love Tom, I hesitate to say whether I want him to have more input or not, because I really have no clue where he's coming from in terms of characterization and storyline. He's just too much of an enigma to us all.

And I think we've all posted something in the wrong place at one time or another. Don't sweat it. :)
shopgirl318
Apr. 29th, 2010 02:48 am (UTC)
Dude felt the same way you did about the episode. It left me in knots after I watched it. I don't know if I loved it or not it was a mixed bag. Tom/erica really sold their angst scenes well though. I don't know about this triangle I think they should have more continuity with and I love Clark/Lois together and separately but they need more consistency.

Word on Supernatural! didn't know you watched it, but with that show I think we should just giving up on liking minor characters apparently our heart will get stomped on. Good episode though, I loved Gabriel! sad that he is gone. (Hendrickson, Jo, Ellen, Ash, Jessica etc)
jeannev
Apr. 29th, 2010 04:23 pm (UTC)
I guess there is something to be said for an episode that leaves you with conflicted feelings, because it does mean that it touched you in some way. Its certainly more positive then feeling ambivalent, or bored, right?

Supernatural has been very frustrating for me this year. I'm just not sure how much I like this whole Apocalypse/angels thing. And thats been the whole season, pretty much. It certainly doesn't help that they keep killing off characters I really like, and I suspect they aren't done yet.
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tariel22
Apr. 30th, 2010 05:55 am (UTC)
Part 1
Well, here I am, FINALLY. Valerie, I don't know how you do it. This week is the first time I've ever had the volume of comments on my review that you have on a weekly basis (people have lots to say about Clois, I guess), and while I LOVE the fun of talking to people, and the deeper understanding all the discussion brings me, I just NOW finished replying to them all!

Thank you so much for the screentime minutes. The wealth of Tom time was an amazing luxury!! And yet Lois still came out ahead. But the whole episode was about their relationship, so equal time was to be expected. Tess's time, OTOH, is shameful, especially her totals for the season. There seem to be several signs pointing to CF's departure from the show, but I'm trying not to mourn prematurely. :(

I may have enjoyed this episode more than you did overall, but I share all your problems with it, and as usual, you state them so perfectly.

Somehow, the whole charm of it just eludes me... Because, reallly, at the end of the day, its lying, and trickery, sprinkled with a dash of cluelessness.

This is exactly how I feel. It diminishes everyone involved in it, IMO. And I really don't see the need for it on Smallville. I will say that I appreciate much better what other people see in it now, after all the comments on my own review, but it still doesn't work for me. Especially not with Smallville's Lois and Clark.

In SV, one of the main reasons I had little interest in seeing the T-for-2 is because The Blur is a voice on the phone. And so, the level of Lois' devotion, and now infatuation, just doesn't feel very believable to me.

I have the same problem with it, especially when big, beautiful, sweet, sexy Clark is standing right in front of her. I STILL can't believe she answered the phone in Escape! And having people tell me it's because deep down she knows the Blur is Clark makes no sense in an episode where she pretty much chooses the Blur OVER Clark, and gushes about Zod's Blur, who isn't Clark at all.

Another one of my big problems with the T-for-2 on SV is that the whole Lois/Blur thing has been rather sporadic, rather then something thats been built organically, and kept consistent.

I found myself going back and recreating the timeline, too. And not only has the Blur's contact been inconsistent, so has Lois's reaction to it. She was hopelessly devoted in Savior and Metallo, and then angry and put out in Idol, until she heard Clark's unaltered voice on the other end. In Escape she was so over the top it was ridiculous, and then in Upgrade she practically hung up on him to run after Clark.

And frankly, I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about that. Because I guess, I can't shake the feeling that if Lois does know Clark is The Blur, deep down, subconsciously, then she'd also have a wrong feeling about The Blur she's talking to.

Exactly. They've muddied the waters, and raised all kinds of questions in my mind, none of them good. I've heard every argument about why Lois's feelings for the Blur in Charade are ONLY about Clark, but not one of them changes what Lois herself said:

"You have no idea what it means that you trusted me enough to let me help you these past weeks. I have never felt such a sense of purpose in my entire life."

And THAT is all about Zod, not Clark.

I loved, loved, LOVED that we got some serious POV from Clark.

It was nothing short of glorious. And Tom was soooo good! I loved the conversation in the barn more than I can say.

But, and this is where I am completely baffled, where does Clark think this relationship can go if he can never tell Lois?

I've wanted to know that from the moment he decided to go for it with Lois at the end of Pandora. Honestly, he should break up with her. And I do think Clark and Lois are going to break up. What else can they do? TPTB won't let them have sex, and although I don't think they should as long as Lois is in the dark, the excuses and interruptions are already ridiculous. They've backed themselves into a corner by letting the physical relationship escalate in the first place. But I think Lois will break up with Clark, and if it's over secrets and lies, my head is going to explode.
jeannev
Apr. 30th, 2010 04:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 1
For me, the key is to try and answer the comments as soon as possible, because if I didn't, and they just piled up, I think I'd be overwhelmed. But I realize there isn't always time to do that.

I was suprised that Lois came out ahead in screentime, but then again, maybe I wasn't. She did seem to have a few extra scenes here and there.

I am not able to reconcile the whole "Lois knows deep down inside". If she did, then getting a call from The Blur while Clark is parked right in between her legs would've given her pause. But it didn't. I just don't think the on screen evidence supports her knowing sub-consciously. I wish that wasn't the case, because if she did know sub-consciously, her devotion to The Blur would make more sense to me. But I have to conclude, based on what was on screen, that she doesn't.

I think a big error was made in not creating a more consistent thread throughtout the season of Lois/Blur interaction. I think they are asking a lot from the viewers to fill in the blanks, and they are lucky that they have a fanbase that is so good at doing that. But I no longer have the desire to do that, personally. They've burned me out.

I just don't know how you can leave Zod's Blur out of the overall equation, and I keep seeing that. I just think thats ignoring a pretty big freaking thing!

I loved the barn scene too. It was wonderfully nostalgic to see him working on that tractor.

I think a break-up is coming too. I'm just not sure how I feel about that.
tariel22
Apr. 30th, 2010 05:55 am (UTC)
Part 2
And, another elephant in the room, is how safe is Lois now, with her not knowing Clark is the real Blur?... So, I find some of that logic pretty faulty.

This is the dumbest part of all. The whole reason they've put forth for Clark not telling her is completely bogus. Can TPTB name one threat from which ignorance has kept Lois safe?

So, she's going to devote her life to taking phone calls from The Blur, and running around doing what he tells her?

It's just not plausible, and it seems decidedly OOC for ILL. And weepy, distraught Lois, saying, "You can't protect us if we know who you are"? Where did that come from?

I don't think you're putting Smallville under a microscope. These issues jumped out at me, once I had time to think about the episode logically, apart from Tom and Erica's powerful and emotional performances.

I thought the elevator scene was adorable, and the decision to leave the actual making out to our imaginations was a smart one.

Chloe was right all along, Clark was wrong.

What other conclusion can we draw? :(

I think Clark could only get into the club because he used his superspeed to get past the gauntlet at the door. But Lois jumping out of a cake? Every eye in the place was on her, and she blew a kiss to Sacks! Is it smart to taunt the guy who so casually ordered his thug to kill you just an hour or two before? What exactly was her game plan? It was kind of worth it for the cuteness of the firing scene though, with Lois's bunny ears bent down so dejectedly. :)

And Tom in that tux, with his tie untied and his buttons undone, was about the sexiest thing I've ever seen. He looked more like Tom than Clark to me, and closer to his true age than we ever see on the show. He was simply devastating.
jeannev
Apr. 30th, 2010 04:53 pm (UTC)
Re: Part 2
For me, there is no good reason for him not telling her at this point. He's not telling her...because thats the way they story goes, and it provides the writers with ways to generate angst and tension. Thats pretty much it!

I realize that everyone has different ways of watching SV, and to some, my way is pretty unforgiving. But this is the way that I am. I can forgive quite a lot if I am loving the storyline, and the direction the story is going in, and so on. But when the storyline starts to fall apart for me, then I start to pick apart the details. I think this is all leftover from my days in the La Femme Nikita fandom where we used to pick apart the details like crazy. And that was actually a better written show for the most part.

I can't even tell you how unhappy I am with what they did with the Chloe/Clark stuff. Chloe was completely and 100% absolved of all, and she was even proven right, AND Clark kissed her ass. I think it was that decision that broke me this season. And I knew it was coming. As it is, I'm pretty sure the finale is unworkable for me. I just want the season over and done with.

Tom in a tux is yummy! Well, Tom in anything (or nothing) is yummy!
ferdalump
Apr. 30th, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
Hi! I don't think I've ever commented to you, but I just found this review via the Ledger and had a few minutes to read it so I thought I would. I've been a Smallville fan since day one and still stick with the show even though I would probably call myself a Smallville sufferer more than a fan. I used to run in the fandom circles, but now I just do my own thing, and live in AU for the most part. Sadly, I've lost hope for the show I once loved so much, but I stick with it. Considering how this fandom is, I chose to lock my journal years ago, and I avoid places where too many fans run because it's just safer. I've been a part of the wank and I just don't want it anymore. I do still have opinions about the show, and huge disappointments, but I don't like to harsh anyone's squee so I tend to keep my thoughts to myself. I feel completely alone most of the time regarding the show and my feelings towards it because I just can't get aboard the love train that is Clois that everyone seems to be riding.

Anyways, I wanted to say thank you so much for taking the time to write such a thoughtful review. I see you've taken some flack for your thoughts, and I commend you for continuing to post them publicly. What I have seen you deal with just here in this thread kinda boggles my mind, but such is life in SV fandom. :\ I think you hit the nail on the head a thousand times with this review, and I really couldn't agree with you more. I have to say I feel a bit relieved that there are others out there that aren't totally in love with everything they see SV do this year. I appreciate you continuing to have a voice when so many of the rest of us have given up fighting the good fight.

jeannev
Apr. 30th, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC)
Wow, thanks so much for stopping by and leaving your comments. It means a lot.

I find myself swimming upstream when it comes to SV fandom. But I just can't be any other way. I've never much been a "go-along-to-get-along" type of person, LOL

I remember back aways, when I first started posting about SV, it was on TWoP (ACK!), and although it wasn't quite as one-sided and brutal as it is now, it was still pretty damn unfriendly for a Clark fan like myself. But I kept getting these emails from people telling me how happy there was that someone would stick up for Clark, and keep offering a different opinion, and all that. Its really nice to hear stuff like that (although I had to leave anyway, eventually).

I'm pretty thick skinned, so it doesn't hurt my feelings when people bitch at me, or talk crap behind my back. I just don't like the behavior. I always feel like if you have something to say, say it, and own it.

As for SV, well, I hear ya. Bigtime. Its really sad for me, when I realize just how much this show does not captivate me anymore. I'll still watch, till the end. And I still love my Clark. But that excitement I used to feel is long gone. How depressing :(
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