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As much of a bummer as it is to do this, I feel like I need to start this post and review with a Public Service Announcement. 

The opinions here are mine, and mine alone.  I don't need to justify them to anyone.  If they deeply offend you, or you are not emotionally capable of reading and respecting views that don't mirror your own, or you just lack the class to allow my opinions to stay here, and not get dragged elsewhere for mocking purposes with the rest of your peeps, then PLEASE, do me a favor....more then that, do YOURSELF a favor...and don't read my reviews.  In fact, why are you on my friends list at all?  The operative words there is "friends".

For me, its never been a matter of disagreeing.  People can disagree with me all day long, and twice on sunday.  Its always been the way people express their disagreement.  Condescending, belittling, or being just plain hateful is just not my cup of tea.  Mileage varies..

So, on with the show....

This was a hard ep to time because there were so many quick cutaways.  And we had a lot of scenes where another character was being watched on a screen, or moniter.  This counts for screentime, but it can make the numbers sort of screwy. 

Checkmate running time:  41m, 40s (Previously on: 53s)

Clark:  13m, 25s
Chloe:  11m, 2s
Oliver:  14m, 23s
Tess:  14m, 25s

Waller:  9m, 26s
Martian Manhunter  7m, 22s


Year To Date: 

Clark:  311m, (17)
Chloe:  157m, 43s (17)
Lois:  226m, 51s (14)
Oliver:  152m, 7s (14)
Tess:  81m, 33s (12)
Zod:  82m, 9s (9)

The review is behind the cut. 



And yes, Tom Welling is always nice to look at.  And THANK GOD for that.  I'm not sure I'd have survived with this show for so long if he wasn't so damned attractive.

I admit to the shallow.  And my favorite part of this episode was Waller talking about "having her cake and eating it too", and then looking Clark over and making a yummy sound.  That was a pee-in-your-pants moment for me..

As anyone that reads my reviews knows, I'm a Clark fan.  No, I mean it!  I'm a really big Clark fan.  And so, when I watch an episode, I'm mostly seeing it through those Clark glasses.  I'm asking myself "Is this episode good for Clark's storyline?"  and "Is the writing for Clark in this episode on point?"

Well, my conclusion on this episode was that, NO, this episode wasn't good for Clark's storyline, and NO, the writing for Clark in this episode mostly sucked monkey ass.

Needless to say, thats going to color my judgement of the episode overall. 

Which isn't to say that I can't enjoy an episode where another character takes center stage.  Its happened several times with Lex.  Its happened with Chloe in the past (but that isn't happening this season), its happened with Lionel, and Martha.  It happened with Lois this season (Idol, Crossfire).  So, I don't always need Clark to be the most prominent character in an episode.  I don't need it, but I do prefer it.

But, if he isn't going to get center stage, and lets be honest, this season hasn't featured much of Clark on center stage, then I, at least, need his character to be written with respect.  I really don't think that should be too much to ask.  Or is it?

What did I hate most about the writing for Clark in this episode?  Him having to apologize to Chloe, AGAIN, while Ms Sullivan can't be bothered to show him the same regard (and apparently Allison Mack can't be bothered to inject any warmth into these scenes either).  I also hated Clark getting berated by Chloe for not adhering to her protocols.  Though apparently, going by this episode, The Justice League are all just a bunch of muscle that work for Chloe, and Clark is a dick for not falling in line and kissing her ass.  Well, who knew?  And I hated Clark being blamed for Chloe being in danger, as though its his fault her fool self when out alone and got kidnapped. 

I especially got a chuckle out of this line from Chloe,  the JLA's boss:

"You spend so much time watching everyone else back, you forgot we need to watch each others back too".

Now, lets examine this line for a second.  For one thing, apparently being out there and watching "everyone elses back" is a failing in Chloe-land, and SV-land.  Well, again, who freaking knew?  Apparently Clark should spend more time checking in, and watching the backs of the other tools heroes he works with at the JLA?

I think it was supposed to mean that Clark should be available to them when they need him, so that they can all work together and be a team!  Yes, apparently this is no longer a show about Clark Kent becoming Superman, but is instead a Justice League show, where Clark is just another member of the team (more or less, depends on the week).  That the team mostly treats Clark like dung is immaterial..

I realize mileage varies on this point, but I really wanted to see Clark shine as a great hero of Metropolis on his own first before they decided that he needed a team to do everything.  And apparently, Clark isn't even allowed on this show to be a leader of the team, but instead needs to take orders from Chloe and fall in line with her protocols.  Woo-Hoo, now thats a great use of the character of Clark Kent, eh?

Oh, we do get a lot of lip service about what Clark will do, sometime in the future.  Awesome!  But how about a little of him doing IT NOW, while I'm still watching the show?  If I hear one person speechify about what Clark will be, I'm going to start kicking puppies.  Really cute ones too! (OK, not really...maybe small children instead).

It also breaks my heart to see scenes of Clark dangling Tess off a roof to get information from her.  Look,I realize that Tess is "a villian", and I realize that she's done some really psycho things, and Yes, I realize that she wasn't really hurt.  But still...I find it to be a disturbing visual.  Its happened in 4 different episodes already.  Can we stop now?  Tom and Cassidy have such fantastic chemistry, and Clark and Tess could be such a great dynamic, and they completely ruin it.

Besides, are we supposed to think that Tess thought he'd actually toss her off the roof?  If the answer is yes, then how fucked up is that?  If the answer is no, then the threat doesn't work.

I did enjoy the scenes between Clark and MM.  In fact, Phil Morris is just so fantastic, I think it sucks so hard that he wasn't made a regular, or strongly recurring character, and I'm stuck with Oliver Queen skanking up my show.  He's totally cool, and he can relate to Clark on a level that no other character can.  He's a great mentor-type character. 

The scenes between Morris and Pam Grier's Amanda Waller were also fun to watch.  Those 2  actors, and their characters, and CF's performance as Tess, were really the best part of the episode.  And yes, Chloe's rescue, and the way it was filmed, was also fun to watch.

Cassidy continues to impress the heck out of me.  In fact, I think I'll got out on a limb, and say she's been the most impressive SV regular actor this season.  I ended up really feeling for Tess here.  In fact, in her last scene, I was 100% on her side, and I so badly wanted someone to kick Oliver in the face, and grind his nuts with a high heel shoe.  Too severe?

See, here's the thing....since when was it Tess who ruined everything between her and Oliver?  According to last season, it was because Oliver couldn't keep his skanky hands off another woman while they were together.  So, its Oliver who betrayed Tess' trust, and he never earned it back.  And has she ever pretended, at all,  in the 2 seasons that she's been on the show, that Oliver should be able to trust her?  When was this?  So, why is he acting all Butt hurt because she had a secret identity and agenda?  When did she promise to watch his back?

And isn't Oliver supposed to be a hero?  One of the good guys?  So, you have a woman here who just helped you rescue your latest bed bunny, and she's telling you that she wants to leave this shady organization, and they'll be wanting to kill her, and she needs your help, and you....tell her to fuck off?  Really?  Explain to me how this is a smart move by Oliver?  Tess knows his identity, Clark's identity, and she's completely dangerous.  So, yeah, I can see why you'd just want to cut her loose, alientate her further, and not extend her a hand when you might be able to pull her off a dark path, AND save her life.

Douchebag!!

And maybe its just me, but having Oliver, the guy that "murdered" Lex, framed someone else for it, then later shot Clark with a kryptonite arrow in the back, completely mishandled an alien threat, then reacted to that by crawling into a bottle of booze and whoring around and generally feeling really sorry for himself while staring at his reflection, and talking shit to Clark, until being psychologically tortured by the new lady of his heart turned him around....Yeah, this guy should be looking down his nose at someone, or anyone?  Really show?

So, needless to say, given what I felt about the writing for Chloe, and the writing for Oliver, and how other characters were shoved under the bus for them, I can't say I give too much of a damn about Chlollie as a couple.  What is supposed to be cute is just cloying for me.  

Oh, one more Oliver/Tess moment I don't want to let pass...."Who knows how many deals were sealed right here?"  So, he's insinuating she's a whore?  Oliver?  It would be funny if you didn't know the show really believed it, and thought he was righteous.

Its all a pity, really, because I think the Checkmate storyline, and the Amanda Waller character, would be a really amazing plot.  But its obvious to me that its not really going to be about Clark (instead, its about the JLA, and their "greatest asset, with some JSA sprinkled in!").  Maybe the next time we'll see them, we'll have a better script, and a writer who gives a shit about writing for Clark, and I'll be able to enjoy their potential a bit more.  Because I do believe the potential is there.

Obviously I have a lot to say about the Clark groveling to Chloe scene, but on the other hand, I don't really know what to say.  Its just that fucking frustrating for me.  It seems highly ironic to me that Chloe is talking about Clark losing confidence in her, and not trusting her, when she's the one thats been down on him all season.  She's the one thats been dogging him behind his back.  She's the one assigning blame, and doing shady crap that could explode in Clark's face.  But he's the one thats in the wrong here?  And you know that this is the way the writers see it.  I pretty knew Chloe would skate on everything from the start of the season, but can there be any doubt now?  I think not.

Just some random things:

I would rather not have any more scenes with Clark just watching someone fly away from him, which just serves as a reminder that Clark can't fly, and has apparently stopped even trying or wondering why he can't, because the whole "training" thing was dropped into Offscreensville.

Waller:  "A police detective who won't go near fire.  Makes it hard to protect and serve"
My sister (the retired police detective) in reaction:  "No it doesn't, because he's not a fucking fireman, You idiot"!

I really love that jacket Clark was wearing in the earlier part of the episode.

Chloe's mustard yellow satin blouse was hideous.

Why does Luthorcorp seem to have most of its events in the castle's study?

I did enjoy the snarks on Green Arrow's outfit

Kudos to the SFX team for the big rescue.  

Mixed reviews for this first time director.  

A big thumbs down for this first time writer.

I'm already cringing about next weeks episode.  But I'll be here.  Only not on friday at 8 EST because the episode is preempted in NY.  Maybe the NY Yankees are trying to run an intervention on me.  :).


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wrighty555
Apr. 11th, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
"Obviously I have a lot to say about the Clark groveling to Chloe scene, but on the other hand, I don't really know what to say. Its just that fucking frustrating for me. It seems highly ironic to me that Chloe is talking about Clark losing confidence in her, and not trusting her, when she's the one thats been down on him all season. She's the one thats been dogging him behind his back. She's the one assigning blame, and doing shady crap that could explode in Clark's face. But he's the one thats in the wrong here? And you know that this is the way the writers see it. I pretty knew Chloe would skate on everything from the start of the season, but can there be any doubt now? I think not."


Honestly, even though I did like that they were trying to acknowledge the rift, I just don't think that no matter what they did it was going to be the right move. Both characters are so far removed from where they were last year and in the past with each other that it just wouldn't seem right.

I think the Chloe mea culpa scene is coming in the finale or in a later episode.

As far as Clark holding Tess over the edge...I cringed at this as well, bit it's not unprecedented. Superman has done that sort of thing when he's needed to. I think that we are supposed to know that clark just isn't in the right frame of mind. He's getting close to figuring this out, but in his quest to embrace his destiny and become what he will eventually become he has gone in the complete opposite direction. He still saves people without a second hesitation, but there is a fierceness to him this year.

As always B'toad (yeah, i'm going old school..lol) I love your take on an episode. :-)
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)
Honestly, I think I'd pass out if there was a Chloe mea culpa scene.

In the beginning of the season, I was really hoping for Clark and Chloe to hash stuff out, argue, and then make up and be friends again. And I would never say that Chloe was 100% in the wrong, and Clark had nothing to apologize for. But now its just gone on too long, and it feels like its gone too far for me. So, I agree with you.

I know Superman has probably done any number of things in the comics. But I really believe what you can so on a page isn't always what you can do in a visual on television. I think you need to approach it a whole different way.

Nice to hear from you :)
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jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 03:55 am (UTC)
You do great with your English :)

I think Clark recognized the piece because he had seen the chessboard in Tess' office. Of course, I'm not sure we've ever seen it before, but this is the show that changed the stained glass window that we saw about 200 times behind Lex's head, and than expected us to believe it was that way all along.

I didn't care much for the opening scene. I think a unique approach can work for a scene (like the Chloe rescue later in the episode). But sometimes, it just seems like a director is indulging his artsy-fartsy ambitions.

Whether Tess was for real at the end, or not, I still think that Oliver's reaction was all kinds of wrong. If she does ask Zod for help now, we'd have to ask ourselves...would she go to him if Oliver had extended her a hand?
wingster55
Apr. 11th, 2010 03:54 am (UTC)
I thought Tess had more minutes.

and apparently Allison Mack can't be bothered to inject any warmth into these scenes either).

Well no she didn't but I thought that was a directing choice more than anything else. AM always does what she's told.

t also breaks my heart to see scenes of Clark dangling Tess off a roof to get information from her. Look,I realize that Tess is "a villian", and I realize that she's done some really psycho things, and Yes, I realize that she wasn't really hurt. But still...I find it to be a disturbing visual. Its happened in 4 different episodes already. Can we stop now? Tom and Cassiday have such fantastic chemistry, and Clark and Tess could be such a great dynamic, and they completely ruin it.
This. So much.
Cassiday
Cassidy. Sorry I had to.
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:00 am (UTC)
When I talked about all the cutting back and forth stuff, Tess was one of those characters that applies to. So, depending on how someone tallies things up, I could see someone giving her a bit more in that opening scene. I am a total stickler though. So, I tend to break down those cutaways.

I'm sure directors influence the actors performances, but knowing a bit about how a television show works, and how the revolving doors of directors work, I do think the actors are able to influence their own performances as well.

I can never seem to remember if there's another "a" in Cassidy's name or not. But, I should get it right, so its OK for reminding me.
jlvsclrk
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:01 am (UTC)
And I hated Clark being blamed for Chloe being in danger, as though its his fault her fool self when out alone and got kidnapped.

Oh, thank you, thank you, for this wonderous review. I know that many will give you grief for your attitude towards Chloe in particular, but you're just saying it as you see it - and I happen to see it almost exactly the same way. The only thing that gave me any hope that Clark's way would ultimately be validated in even the slightest way was the scene at the end with MM about not chosing sides. Because I think that speech was about something Clark IS doing right now, acting as a bridge between the extreme views all around him. I'm reminded of huzzlewhat's recent meta and dare allow myself to hope that the writers are going to follow through and not allow Chloe to skate completely. And I couldn't agree with you more about Ollie's douchebaggery. I would be one of the happiest people in SV fandom if he and Chloe just rode off into the sunset together and tried their act in Star City without Clark to constantly denigrate. I figure they'd last a week or two on their own. Bah.

It's weird thinking about this episode, because Chloe and Ollie make me want to throw things and hurl abuse, but I did enjoy the Checkmate stuff aside from them. Definitely one of those episodes to use the fast forward button with quite liberally.
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:11 am (UTC)
You're welcome. :)

I really hope, for your sake and mine, that your hopes come to pass. Something I think people don't really appreciate about me is that, as negative as I can be, I really, really want to be wrong. Sure, there's some immature fun in being able to say "I toldya so". I admit that. But I'm also happy and willing to say "I was wrong, the writers don't suck, and they came through for Clark". I want to say that SO BAD!

I think the big problem with the writing for Chloe and Oliver, and how it pertains to Clark, is that they've set these characters up in such fundamental opposition to each other the past 2 seasons. Not everyone can be right! But they never, ever seem to really be able to follow through with Chloe and Oliver. So, they get validated and vindicated, and Clark is the one left holding the bag with the fallout.

So, yeah, due to the writers inability to successfully juggle these characters, I'm happy for both of them to ride into the sunset so the writers will have 2 less people to side with over Clark.

Checkmate could be an amazing storyline. But "could be" are the operative words there.
tasabian
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:08 am (UTC)
Maybe the NY Yankees are trying to run an intervention on me. :).
HEE!

It also breaks my heart to see scenes of Clark dangling Tess off a roof to get information from her. Look,I realize that Tess is "a villian", and I realize that she's done some really psycho things, and Yes, I realize that she wasn't really hurt. But still...I find it to be a disturbing visual. Its happened in 4 different episodes already. Can we stop now? Tom and Cassiday have such fantastic chemistry, and Clark and Tess could be such a great dynamic, and they completely ruin it
I hated that - it's one thing for Clark to fight Maxima or Faora but to threaten a powerless human? Each time they've done this, it represents such a lack of creativity. Clark doesn't need to act the thug. He could also - I don't know - use his smarts and out-wit Tess. Trick her into revealing Chloe's location. The writers are so lazy. And there seems to have been a deliberate attempt to walk away from the Clark/Tess chemistry that was a highlight of last season. Why?

What did I hate most about the writing for Clark in this episode? Him having to apologize to Chloe, AGAIN, while Ms Sullivan can't be bothered to show him the same regard
When Chloe mentioned her "Big Brother" tactics, I thought this is it. Finally, she's going to admit she's taken things way too far, become too controlling. What a great scene for Tom & Allison that could have been. But, no. Just more of the same sloppy writing we've had all season.

And my favorite part of this episode was Waller talking about "having her cake and eating it too", and then looking Clark over and making a yummy sound.
Yay for Pam G. - surely the "mmmm" was an improv. Love that so hard!

I ended up really feeling for Tess here. In fact, in her last scene, I was 100% on her side, and I so badly wanted someone to kick Oliver in the face, and grind his nuts with a high heel shoe. Too severe?
I think Cassiday tilts viewer sympathy towards her because she's such a fantastic actor. (Not that Justin isn't good too but IMO, she's better.) When Tess is in a scene, Cassiday automatically seizes the viewer-POV, she's that strong a presence.

I did enjoy the scenes between Clark and MM. In fact, Phil Morris is just so fantastic
He always seems to be having fun with the material & thoroughly enjoying himself.

I did enjoy this more than last week's mess - better plot momentum. But you look at the available talent - Pam Grier!- and notice the waste. It could have been so much better. This one is a real candidate for your rewrite project.
tasabian
Apr. 11th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, one more Oliver/Tess moment I don't want to let pass...."Who knows how many deals were sealed right here?" So, he's insinuating she's a whore?
ETA: if there's anyone on SV who has no right to throw those sorts of implications around, it's Oliver!
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jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:26 am (UTC)
When Pam Grier made that yummy noise, my sister actually burst out laughing, because it was so ridiculous, yet utterly wonderful at the same time. I just can imagine Tom cracking up a few time before he could get through the scene.

I do have to say that I really love when the show acknowledges how gorgeous Clark is, because HELLO! Look at him...

I understand your reaction to the Clark/Chloe scene. I feel like I cold rant for an hour, and then I don't know what to say. Because you are right, it is exhausting. And ludicrous. and infuriating. Is it so hard to make things mutual? I guess so, but I can't imagine why.

I agree with everything you said about Tess, and how Oliver and Clark treated her. And here's the thing with Tess...she's been a contradiction. As bad and wrong as she's been with some stuff, she's also protected Clark's identity, and didn't go running back to Checkmate to re-out Clark and Oliver. Which doesn't mean that Clark and Oliver should drop their guards with her, but at least puts it out there in the universe that Tess might have some decent bones in her body, ya know?

I'm telling you right now, Chloe will end up being lauded for those weapons. I can see it coming a mile away.
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(Anonymous)
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:32 am (UTC)
Your screentimes are a lot different than Bouroux's. I see that it's really an Oliver and Tess-centric episode with Clark a close second to them. I have to say that I do find the relationship between Oliver and Tess more interesting than Oliver and Chloe. The new writer didn't watch enough episodes to get a grasp of Clark because we see here that Clark is apologetic and indecisive. MM was great with the full scope of his powers to make up for last season when he didn't have them and Pam Grier captures the look and essence of Amanda Waller. Without Lois and Zod, nothing was advancing the main storyline of the season.
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:43 am (UTC)
I did notice that my numbers were very different from hers, but I don't really know what method she uses to determine hers. I can only go with my own system here. Its been working pretty well for me so far.

I'd agree it was a Tess/Oliver focused ep, but second to that, I'd say the focus was Waller/Manhunter, with Clark bringing up the rear, just behind Chloe.

I'm not sure I find any Oliver relationship that interesting. I wish the show put more effort into developing a more interesting interaction between Clark and Tess, rather then doing anything more with Oliver and Tess.

I think an episode without Zod or Lois, or any character really, can still be good and advance the main storylines. But this episode had issues.
homicidalfink
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:58 am (UTC)
Can I just co-sign this review? I'm still furious about the writing. So many things wrong with the characterization, and I had been liking Oliver a little bit again, at least up until the last five minutes.

Tess TOLD him she didn't know he was the Arrow, and that if she HAD KNOWN, she wouldn't have set the trap for him. Now, most of the time you can't trust everything that comes out of her mouth, but I think that was one of the few times she was telling the truth.

Ollie isn't nearly as redeemed as he thinks he is. A real hero, the kind he keeps referring to, wouldn't have shut down Tess like that. I don't think Clark would have. He may not have trusted her, but tried to help anyway.

As for Clark's treatment of her, my personal theory is that he's embracing the Kryptonian way of doing things more zealously, and if you watch how the Kandorians treat each other, there is a precedent for more physical violence. That's not to say it's right, and he needs to realize what he's doing and it, but that's what I think they're trying to convey.

The less I say about Chloe right now the better. I don't think there's anyway to redeem her now, at least for me personally.

jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 05:11 am (UTC)
Be my guest!

I've come to the conclusion that no matter how cool a guy Justin Hartley is, Oliver Queen is just not a character I like. Or will ever like. But in some ways, he and Chloe are a perfect pair, since neither seems able to recongize their own mistakes and faults in situations, and how that might impact people around them.

I think the biggest problem with the character of Chloe right now is that they seemed to have left out her humility. Its hard to warm up to a character who never thinks she's wrong, and can't admit fault. And its not who Chloe used to be.
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jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC)
I was a bit surprised that Clark's numbers were that high too. But he had a few scenes that pushed him up, like the confrontation with Waller, the Chloe rescue and his last scene with MM.
starry_dawn
Apr. 11th, 2010 06:29 am (UTC)
Yeah, the Clark/Chloe scenes really didn't work for me. And the fact that Clark was so sincere in his apology, but just got another cold shoulder from Chloe for it... ugh. Why are they doing this to what used to be the best friendship on the show?!

I liked everything apart from that, though. If the addition of more enemies means more stuff for Clark to do, then I'm okay with him not being around so much this episode. Of course, that may just be wishful thinking at this point.
rowan_sjet
Apr. 11th, 2010 01:44 pm (UTC)
Right there with you on the Chlark relationship (could hardly call it a friendship any more sadly) for all the reasons mentioned on this page. As someone who's enjoyed it right up until the beginning of this season, it's depressing to see how far it fell and how quickly. And a lot of the blame for that is laid at Chloe's feet, so it just frustrates me that Clark is the only one apologising and for things that are of much less severity than her faults.
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christina_kat
Apr. 11th, 2010 09:39 am (UTC)
Awesome review! Agreed in everything you just said.

//I realize that Tess is "a villian", and I realize that she's done some really psycho things, and Yes, I realize that she wasn't really hurt. But still...I find it to be a disturbing visual. Its happened in 4 different episodes already. //

That felt weird for me, too. The movement where he pushed against the wall was kind of hot but it was scary to see him dangling Tess off the roof.

I don't have much to say about Chloe and her cold attitude towards Clark who was apologizing with no reason. *shakes head in dissapointment*
ext_230996
Apr. 11th, 2010 02:15 pm (UTC)
Great review
I agree with everything in your review.

I hope to find time to make some more specific comments.

Trying to comment via this openID thingy. Not sure if it's going to work. If not this is jwm
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goodvibe
Apr. 11th, 2010 12:45 pm (UTC)
//NO, this episode wasn't good for Clark's storyline, and NO, the writing for Clark in this episode mostly sucked monkey ass.

Needless to say, thats going to color my judgement of the episode overall.//

Exactly. While Tess, MM and The Wall were all terrific, I just can't get behind an ep that felt like such a slap in the face to Clark fans.

//But still...I find it to be a disturbing visual.//

Y'know, I didn't so much have a problem with the dangling, it was the grabbing and shaking by the shoulders right after that I found excessive. What was the point? Tess was already spilling the beans by then---::kicks writers::

Needless to say, I agree with all things on Waller, MM and Tess. And the douchebaggery of Chloe and Oliver continues to piss me off royally.

And really, come to think of it, this ep really was just a showcase for Chloe and Oliver, wasn't it? Them being the two big heroes and all. Clark' just the big dumb Alien with powers who fails to follow protocol and gets Chloe kidnapped. ::seethes::
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:00 pm (UTC)
Right. I am THRILLED that Tess got so much focus. And MM too, since its been overdo. I've always felt that he should've had a whole episode devoted to him, ala Arrow, Aqua, Run, Cyborg. But its hard to enjoy those things when the other side of the coin is Clark getting screwed.

And yes, I really do think this was an episode where the writer was FAR more interested in Chloe and Oliver as his heroes of choice. Aside from that scene between Clark and MM at the end (and frankly, people talking about how amazing Clark is going to be are feeling a bit old and done at this point), how did Clark feel central, or focused on? And while the rescue was way cool, it was facilitated by Oliver turning off the power grid, and Clark getting lectured by Waller on how he wasn't doing enough to protect "his greatest asset".

Apprently, none of the other Watchtower heroes have any obligation to protect their "greatest asset". No, thats Clark's job, and fault.
amelietw
Apr. 11th, 2010 01:38 pm (UTC)
Waller: "A police detective who won't go near fire. Makes it hard to protect and serve"
My sister (the retired police detective) in reaction: "No it doesn't, because he's not a fucking fireman, You idiot"!


Hahahahaha!!!! Well said!

Also, I love your reviews. I don'T always comment on them, not because I disagree, but because the wee one is keeping me busy!

Keep your devotion and continue tweeting the writers about it... Maybe someday, they'll wake up!!!!

jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
My sister is pretty funny to watch SV with. We keep each other sane.

How is the pretty baby?

I know you must be crazy busy, but I appreciate you stopping by when you can.

And don't worry, I'll continue tweeting the writers. If only so they know that there are some of us out there that are interested in CLARK.
tjw_jaypat
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:28 pm (UTC)
Spot on as (practically) always. :))

After Checkmate I am even more worried for the rest of the season. First there was Septien´s tweet that the way to Superman is long and complicated. That doesn´t sit well with me. We are in Season 9, so this Clark fan expects that our hero makes less and less mistakes. The excuse "Clark is not Superman yet" is getting lamer and lamer. What also bugs me is that Clark is portrayed as too impulsive and emotional. When is he going to develop his superior intellectual abilities? Anway, I am afraid I can´t even trust the nice Mr Septien when he tells us that we will be happy with Clark in the finale.

Second, although I will surely enjoy Clark being mad with Chloe in Upgrade, it happens under RedK, so I am afraid there will be a guilt trip and profuse apologizing later. Worse, he seems to push her so that we are probably in for the gratuitous violence against women thing again...
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:54 pm (UTC)
Well, as long as I get most of them right ;) LOL

After Checkmate I am even more worried for the rest of the season.

Yup, me too. I've been saying that since we just got the spoilers. But do you know where I really think the warning bells started going off? The "Big Event" episode, Absolute Justice. When they aired that episode, and it was so bloody obvious that Clark was sort of shoved to the side, and they deliberately excluded Clark from the "team" dinner, I knew...Or, I should say, I suspected.

But all this season, I've been really down on the writing for Clark. I feel like asking this question....take all of his stuff with Lois/Clois out of the equation...now, lets talk about the writing for Clark, and his storyline. How much is there really to talk about?

And I actually don't think Al has really said anything substantial. Just the usual vague stuff. He's a super nice guy, and I think people mistake that for being on their side, or something.

The promo for Upgrade makes me so angry. Not because Clark shoves Chloe. Red K Clark has been violent with people before. But because it appears the whole set-up is going to rob Clark of his RIGHTFUL feelings of hurt and betrayal, and turning it around so he's going to have to kiss Chloe's ass at the end. And that makes me so sick.
katyjane91
Apr. 11th, 2010 04:55 pm (UTC)
WORD! To everything you said! I agree with all of it. Probably because I'm a Clark fan too.

Why, why oh why are the writers acting like blondie hobbit created the Justice League? Like she went out there, did all the painstaking work and brought them together? Instead of, not only sitting on her ass through most of it, but being the LAST ONE TO JOIN! And having the most replaceable skill.
You know who's Watchtower in the cartoons and comics? Martian Manhunter, that's who. Because he has all the powers of a boss.
Chloe could be replaced by either him or Cyborg who can actually TALK TO COMPUTERS!
Most valuable assest, really Waller?
She's actually their biggest hinderance.
I saw somewhere that Chloe was described as like a little sister who wants to play with the bigger kids and they feel bad to they make her lookout.
She's not half as qualified as several people that are already on the team. But the writers need something for her to do. Right?
And speaking of something for Chloe to do, I also agree that Oliver was awful in this episode.
I guess he was supposed to come off as 'badass' but he just came off as cruel.
I've said on here that I don't really like Tess, she bothers me. But I felt really bad for her this episode.
It might have helped if the writers actually portrayed her as being evil in the same episode they announce she is.
They somehow got mixed up and gave her Chloe's consequences.

*sigh* Also, agree that Amanda Waller and Martian Manhunter were awesome in this episode. Everytime they came onscreen I cheered.

But I didn't like the Clark/Chloe save scene and I'm apparently the only one that didn't. Only because at that point it was like, 'MORE slow-mo?' There was way to much in this episode.
So yeah, didn't like the director or the writer.
I heard they were both first timers for SV. Shocker.

Oh, and your sister is awesome and hilarious. I want her writing for this show.
Anyway, *sigh* Maybe next week will be better?
jeannev
Apr. 11th, 2010 05:03 pm (UTC)
CLARK FANS UNITE!!! LOL

I'm telling you though, we need to stick together and start some sort of lobby. Because I sometimes get the impression that TPTB don't know we exist.

And yes, just when did Chloe start the Justice League? You have to love that retcon, right? Chloe saw their potential? Really? So, when they were working together before that, is was because.....?

And I also love how Clark is sniped at and scolded for not following Chloe's protocols. When did anyone consult with Clark about these protocols? Did he get a say in any of them? Or is he just supposed to do what he's told because the other JLA "heroes" lack a spine, and mind of their own?

And who does Watchtower check in with, and keep informed? Oh, thats right, NO ONE.

Ya know, I can understand someone not liking the Chloe save. It was very over-the-top, and thats either going to work for you, or it really isn't at all. It took me a little while before I really knew how I felt about it myself. As it is, I think its cool, but I'm not wetting my pants over it (Thank God! LOL).

My sister is hilarious. If she wrote for this show, Clark would be going around giving people a verbal bitch slapping once a week. It would be awesome!
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