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My 'Ships - the Video addition


2 days ago I asked my flist if they had any romantic 'ships outside of Smallville, and what they were.  I guess that means I have to share mine.  I'm really not much of a 'shipper in general, but there are 5 that even a romantic cynic like me cannot deny.

I checked out youtube, and found 5 vids that do a decent job of representing those couples that I just cannot deny.

5. Buffy/Angel - Buffy, The Vampire Slayer & Angel

For me, when it comes down to these two, I always consider the same thing....free of all of their baggage, and responsibilities and demons (inner and outer), if you asked Buffy what she wanted most, I have no doubt she'd say "Angel".  And if you asked Angel what he wanted most, he'd say "Buffy".  And no matter what else happened with them, or other relationships came into their lives, my certainty in that never wavered.  And ya know, then there's chemistry.  I love Sarah and David together.

4. Sawyer & Kate - Lost

This one is a toughie for me to admit to.  Because the truth of the matter is that I don't really like Kate anymore, and I've always thought it bizarre to ship a pairing when you don't like both people.  And I also LOVED Sawyer and Juliet.  And, I hate/loathe/despise the Jack/Kate/Sawyer triangle, because Sawyer always seems to get screwed by it.  But I can't deny that Sawyer and Kate together makes my heart flutter.  I blame Josh and Evie's crazy chemistry.  But I also think, for me, that these are 2 messed up, dysfunctional people who seem to only  be really and completely comfortable in their own skins when they are around each other.  No pretense, no illusions, no expectations.  There's a simplicity and purety in that.

3. Felicity & Ben - Felicity

Yeah, I watched Felicity, and I loved it!  What of it?  I'm not sure what to say about these two, except they just fit.  It was rarely the easiest of relationships.  God knows they did angst.  But they just always felt connected.  Meant to be.  I think a lot of that might have to do with the fact that Keri Russell and Scott Speedman were a twosome outside of the show for a time.  I think that real life intimacy showed through on screen.  I was beyond thrilled that they ended up together.  Both times the show ended.  I honestly could not have imagined it any other way.

2. John & Aeryn - Farscape

I LOVED John and Aeryn.  To me, if anyone needs to figure out how to do a couple right on a show, this is what they should study.  Because they did that angst, and the forced apart stuff, and the misunderstandings.  The whole television textbook of drawing a relationship out.  But what set this show apart was that, even through it all, the shows commitment to the love between these characters was unwavering.  And not only was the show committed to it, the actors were truly invested as well.  I remember reading an interview with Ben Browder, and he basically said that when John met Aeryn, that was it for him.  She was it!  There was no one else for John.  And thats precisely what came across to me.  And as an added bonus, having seen Ben and Claudia together at Comic Con, they are simply adorable friends.

1. Nikita and Michael - La Femme Nikita

What a roller coaster ride I went on with these two.  I was so rabid about them, I actually was the founder of the first Michael and Nikita shipper group (before I was cynical and jaded, LOL).  And Boy, how my perception of this 'ship changed and evolved..  I started off wondering if Nikita wouldn't be better off staying away from him, and ended up wishing Michael had never fallen in love with her.  So, how could I ship them?  Because they were undeniable.  As much as she angered you, or he angered you, and no matter how dysfunctional they were (and Boy Howdy! They were dysfunctional!), there was simply no way around them.  She was the irresistible force to his immovable object.  I've never seen 2 actors more like magnets, drawn to each other.  So physically different, yet made to be paired up.  In a lot of ways, this is the chemistry that I measure all other couples by.  But its funny, I'm kind of glad they didn't end up together.   BTW, this was a case of the actors being totally unlike each other, with little to no real life friendship to speak of.  But it didn't matter a bit when they were on screen.
This was the hardest ship to find a vid for, because its impossible to encompass the complexity of their relationship, which was as much war as it was love.  But, I really love this song, so...





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shopgirl318
Mar. 6th, 2010 06:45 am (UTC)
I love your couple list. It is refreshing to see older couples being celebrated still and not the same old same old.
Nikita and Michael I used to heart this show so much on the usa network, (the orignal darker version of Alias, minus the whole family of spies theme!)I am going to have find dvds since the eps don't air on television. The series finale upset me so much, these were just sexy together and I agree about that angst they could bring like noone's business, you would want them apart then they started doing things to reel you back in. I heard the CW is remaking this show, which means FAIL on FAILBOAT DRIVE!

Angel/Buffy I never really shipped these 2, I did for about a season but I will admit in that Angel episode when they were back together briefly they were dynamic and had such chemistry but Buffy used to get on my nerves sometimes, even though she was a favorite.

Felicity, I haven't thought about these 2 in years. I was satisified when the show ended also, all that crap for B/F not to end up would have heartbreaking.
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)
I have no idea why the CW is so lame that they feel they need to remake shows from 10 yrs ago, especially since ABC already did it, and renamed it Alias. How about coming up with something original? Really, I think its going to tough to top USA's LFN, because the show really worked due to Nikita AND Michael. And I just don't think they are going to find a twosome like that again.

For me, Felicity/Ben was the only possible route for the show. It just would never believeable to me that she'd ever love anyone the way she loved Ben.
shopgirl318
Mar. 7th, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)

I have no idea why the CW is so lame that they feel they need to remake shows from 10 yrs ago, especially since ABC already did it, and renamed it Alias. How about coming up with something original? Really, I think its going to tough to top USA's LFN, because the show really worked due to Nikita AND Michael. And I just don't think they are going to find a twosome like that again.


I agree. That is why the series is close to my heart because of Nikita and Michael. I think after Smallville and Supernatural ends, the WB originals the network will crash and burn though they do have 2 gems Life Unexpected and Vampire Diaries.

For me, Felicity/Ben was the only possible route for the show. It just would never believeable to me that she'd ever love anyone the way she loved Ben.
Word! The things Felicity went through with Ben on the show made the payoff that much sweeter and worth it to watch.
serenography
Mar. 6th, 2010 07:18 am (UTC)
I am SO MUCH in agreement with your #1 and #2. Gawd, those vids and seeing those couples together again is wonderful and bittersweet at the same time. I guess it's how I'll categorize Clark and Lana one of these days as well.

Ben Browder still rings all my bells. Why that guy isn't getting more good roles is beyond me. Aeryn, oh man. Even her name is awesome.

Nikita and Michael broke my heart more than they made me happy, but I'm okay with that. LOL.

I like this shipping challenge with vids. I'll have tackle it tomorrow. Puttered around for too long already tonight since I have to work in the morning. Gah!
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 03:51 am (UTC)
I think it would be near impossible to find anyone that was anti-John & Aeryn. The show did their relationship so well.

Nikita and Michael were so frustrating, and maddening, and you wanted to strangle one of them (or both of them) a lot of the time. But yet, they were so meant to be.

I'd love to see what you'd come up. It would be cool if I could inspire a few posts like this.
duskwillow
Mar. 6th, 2010 10:34 am (UTC)
John and Aeryn. ♥ Definitely the best relationship I've seen on tv screens.
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC)
They were amazing. Like I said, they should be in the dictionary under "way to do TV relationships right".
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jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 03:53 am (UTC)
3 out of 5! Thats pretty good. :)

John & Aeryn were so, so great. And I love how much Ben and Claudia put into it.
lexalicious70
Mar. 6th, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
Buffy and Angel are love. I hardly ever ship het couples, but those two . . . I love them.
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 03:54 am (UTC)
I loved them too. I respect that people shipped them with others, but I just never really could. Even if they both did have appealing alternatives. Because, like I said, there was never any doubt for me that what they both really want/wanted, deep down, was each other.
(Anonymous)
Mar. 7th, 2010 05:04 am (UTC)
Shipping?
I'm not gonna lie: I don't think I fully grasp the concept of "shipping," but here are ten of the couples that, whether or not they were ever actually together, or whether or not they lasted long or ended up together, or whether or not I like(d) the individual characters, I really, really enjoy(ed) -- in no particular order. Though, I am especially passionate about the "True Blood" ones.

(1) Olivia Benson and Alexandra Cabot ("Law and Order: SVU")

(2) Shane McCutcheon and Carmen de la Pica Morales ("The L Word")

(3) Brian Kinney and Justin Taylor ("Queer as Folk")

(4) Joan Holloway and Roger Sterling ("Mad Men")

(5) Pete Campbell and Peggy Olson ("Mad Men")

(6) Maria DeLuca and Michael Guerin ("Roswell")

(7) Queen Sophie-Anne Leclerq and Pam ("True Blood")

(8) Eric Northman and Lafayette Reynolds ("True Blood")

And, of course...

(9) Buffy Summers and Angel ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel")

(10) Buffy Summers and Angelus ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel")

That's all I have for now!
(Anonymous)
Mar. 7th, 2010 05:05 am (UTC)
Re: Shipping?
Britas15, here! Sorry, I forgot to add my name to my above post.
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 11:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Shipping?
Honestly, I'm not sure I always grasp the concept either. I certainly don't understand that being a central reason for watching a show. I really need to know the characters outside of a ship before I can really root for them as a couple.

I don't watch True Blood, or Mad Men, but I think its very cool that you have so many couples, or potential couples, that hold your interest. I'm so damned picky with couples that its very rare that I like more then one on a show.
sunflowercyn10
Mar. 7th, 2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
*claps* La Femme Nikita! That was one of my favs too. Michael and Nikita...OMG the chemistry and what a rollercoaster ride of chemistry, want etc between their characters. It was frustrating, sexy yet poignant at the same time. Roy Dupuis who played Michael is an extraordinary actor from Montreal who I love not to mention they shot so much of the show in Toronto where I live now but not when they were making the show. I'm not crazed about the news of another show about Nikita....

Buffy and Angel...sigh. Your other choices are all new to me which is great!
jeannev
Mar. 7th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
Yay! For more LFN fans. I was enormously involved in that fandom, and while it had its fair share of dramas, it was far more functional then the SV fandom. And it had a wicked smart fanbase.

I think Roy Dupuis is extraordinary. Through my interest in LFN, I sort of developed an interested in some of the Quebec films done in French. And wow, what a fearless actor he is (and frequently naked). Being At Home With Claude is one of the most haunting movies I've ever seen, and he was fabulous. I understand he went on to win Canadian's equivalent of an acadmey award. Good for him. Great actor, and classy man.
sunflowercyn10
Mar. 8th, 2010 03:28 am (UTC)
Roy Dupuis is very fearless and he the CDN academy award "The Genie" twice. I've seen one of the winning performances as Maurice Richard in THE ROCKET and I recommend it. He was friends with Maurice (one of the greatest hockey players) and to see him play a big tough but fast hockey player with a deep love for his family..hubba hubba.

The other movie starring Roy what I want to see and he received alot of praise for in Canada is "Shake Hands With the Devil". It is a film adaptation of the Romeo Dallaire autobiography that details the Canadian General's journey through the 1994 Rwandan genocide and how Dallaire's request for more aid went ignored by the United Nations.

It's nice to see what else we have in common Val :)
tariel22
Mar. 8th, 2010 06:07 am (UTC)
This is a fascinating post to read coming from you, the ultimate non-shipper. :) Some people aren't happy watching a show unless they can ship someone, but when you pick ships, I have to pay attention. I figure there has to be something pretty special about these couples.

I love romantic and sexual entanglements in my shows, but I don't often actively ship anyone. I think it's because I can always see all sides of an issue (another way of saying I'm wishy-washy), and similarly, I can usually find something to love about all ships. I still swoon over certain Clana moments, I loved every second of Clalicia, I've enjoyed the Clois this season, and I still want to see Clark and Lex kiss. ;) But I have shipped just a few couples.

Buffy and Angel were one of them. I felt like I went through everything with them, and certain moments, like when Angel turned after he and Buffy made love, hit me like a physical blow. I know what to expect from Joss now, but back then I was woefully unprepared for his unexpected, devastating twists and turns. I agree with you, free of all their burdens and responsibilities, they would have chosen each other, every time and for all time.

John and Aeryn?! Did I already know this about you? How could I not? I can't really say I shipped John and Aeryn, per se, because I came to Farscape after it was all over, so I knew they ended up together before I ever began watching. But I forgot all that as I watched the show, drawn in by Claudia and Ben, agonizing over their separations and pain, ecstatic over the love they found together, and their moments of joy. They are the couple we all wish we could be, the love we all wish we could find. I worship the characters and the actors alike. And I'm way more in love with Claudia Black than any straight woman has a right to be. :)

Sawyer and Kate is a tough one for me. They do have something that neither Jack and Kate nor Sawyer and Juliet ever will, something that connects them at the core, and sets them on fire when they're together. But I really don't like Kate right now. Or Jack, so I think they deserve each other. I keep watching, though, seeing if something will happen to change my mind. The closest I come to shipping anyone on LOST is Sun and Jin. :)

I only watched the first two seasons of Felicity, and I wasn't terribly invested in any of the relationships, but I definitely always got that meant-to-be vibe from Felicity and Ben; I always assumed they would end up together forever in the end. And I never watched La Femme Nikita because the subject matter scared me off, but people are so passionate about it, I think I must have really missed something.

I've really only ever shipped two couples besides Buffy and Angel. My first ever ship was the couple whose fandom taught me the term (and may have in fact invented it), Mulder and Scully. I wanted them together so badly it hurt, and my investment in their relationship drove me to seek out my first online fandom, the X-Files message boards on AOL. My other ship was Luke and Lorelai on Gilmore Girls, and I was so upset that they finally gave it to us, only to take it away again, that I quit the show at the end of S6 and never watched the final season. I bought it on DVD, but it sits to this day on my shelf, still in the shrink wrap, unwatched.

You post such good stuff during the Smallville hiatuses, you almost make me look forward to them. :) Thanks for this!
jeannev
Mar. 8th, 2010 02:33 pm (UTC)
I think during the hiatus, I'm just looking to keep myself entertained. If I can keep some of you entertained as well, then thats awesome!

I loved Mulder and Scully. But, here's the funny thing...I was fine with them just being friends. I loved their friendship chemistry, so it never had to be romantic for me.

Sawyer and Kate is a tough one for me. They do have something that neither Jack and Kate nor Sawyer and Juliet ever will, something that connects them at the core, and sets them on fire when they're together. But I really don't like Kate right now. Or Jack, so I think they deserve each other. I keep watching, though, seeing if something will happen to change my mind.

Right, I agree with all that. I love Sawyer, but Kate? Not so much. And Jack? Not at all. But then there will be this moment, where Sawyer and Kate will look at each other, and I just get sucked right back into them. Like I said, I think its the chemistry. I'm really a stickler for chemistry. And I know it so subjective, but I don't know how someone could watch Josh and Evie and not see it. In fact, I'd say the same for all my couples. I don't know how someone can't see it.

Like, when it comes to SV, aside from Calicia, I can understand how chemistry between any other duo is debateable. OK, maybe not Clex. But Clana, Chlark, Clois, Lexana, Chimmy, Chlollie, Lollie, Tessod, Toliver, Mionel. I think all of them are debateable. And then I look at someone like John and Aeryn, and its undeniable. I want undeniable. In order to ship, I need to feel that strong a pull.

My late sister and my niece loved Luke and Lorelai, but I never watched Gilmore Girls. But I figured if they loved it, it was good enough for me :)
goodvibe
Mar. 9th, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
5. Aw, man. I loved the video you chose for them. So many memories came rushing back. ITA with what you say about them. At the time, while watching, while I was fascinated with how Joss continued to make them relevant to each others lives in some capacity or the other, even across different shows and networks and whatnot, I would often find myself frustrated with it because I'd think, "well, all this and it's not like there's ever going to be any payoff." But I remember with a little distance between both shows (I did a rewatch of both series back-to-back sometime in 2005 I think) I found myself just amazed with the underlying belief I took home with me as a viewer that above it all wrt these two - that no matter what, they'd always be the others ultimate "The One." And effortlessly so, without it ever coming off as forced or trite. Also, for me? These two are my personal gold standard of chemistry, along with John and Aeryn. No other couples come even remotely close, and that's including the likes of Clark/Alicia. And you know how much I love Calicia, heh, so it probably gives you an indication just how blown away I am by the Angel/Buffy chemistry. Funny thing is, pure looks wise, I'm not usually a fan of the tall guy/unusually-petite girl combo, but these two just made it work, no matter what the nature of the scenes. Lookit me rambling, heh. I could write an entire post about them.

4. I definitely see chemistry here, but I just can't get past my thing that for me, I feel like Kate tends to bring out the worst in both Sawyer and Jack. Or rather, that Kate is supposed to be some kind of prize for both these men and I just can't see why. Particularly Sawyer who I feel always has to conform to what Kate's idea of the guy she happens to want in that moment. She's so wishy washy, that whole triangle irritates me, and unfortunately I see so much of the Kate/Jack, Kate/Sawyer interaction as part of one triangle of suck rather than independently. They are both very pretty to look at though and I love Sawyer, independently or with Juliet.

Never seen 3 and 1---

---but I adore 2. They smouldered and sizzled all the way through. Fantastic, striking, engaging couple.
jeannev
Mar. 9th, 2010 09:59 pm (UTC)
Believe me, I share a lot of the same issues you have when it comes to Kate/Sawyer. I really do. But then I watch a vid like that, and I'm just...Gah!

But I did struggle with including them here due to my issues with Kate. Sawyer? Love him! But Kate is a very perplexing character for me, and so I can't really love her. Much of the time, I'm not even sure I like her. And her a Jack together makes me want to spork out my eyeballs.

I wish you had seen Michael and Nikita. I very much suspect you would've loved them.
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