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Idol Musings

OK, cracking my knuckles, getting ready for this one. I'm feeling like I might have a lot to say (Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid!!).

But, its been a good day, so I'm feeling rather jovial, and that should bode well for this review. Probably far more emphasis on the positive, rather then the negative.

BTW, the good day? All about the shopping, Babies!! Bought boots, lots of sparkley things, a BCBG sweater that is Too-Freaking-Die-For. I love shopping. Its chicken soup for my soul.

I did refrain from buying the Donna Karan boots though...and my soul died just a little to have to leave them behind :(

Anyway, its review time...cue the lights

Type your cut contents here.


So, The Wonder Twins were surprisingly fun, weren't they? Color me shocked! But kudos to new SV writer, Ann Coffel Saunders for making two of the lamest cartoon characters rather entertaining.

For the whole 6m they were on, and yes, thats a complaint. Because really, we ended up knowing absolutely nothing about these two besides the fact that they idolized The Blur, and they were sort of incompetent. And I'm not a huge proponent of characters showing up on SV, and getting so little development. I felt the same about Roulette. When there really isn't any insight there to the characters, it begins to feel a bit like a variety show, with "special guest stars" dropping in weekly.

But then again, maybe one of the reasons that the Twins were as entertaining as they were is because they had so little storyline. Something to ponder.

The Twins were very clearly the B storyline this week, and Lois was the A storyline. And yes, I'm just saying Lois, even though her storyline involved Clark. Both of his identities, in fact. Because the A storyline of this ep was most definitely about delving into where Lois is emotionally, what her feelings are for Clark, and The Blur, how she is dealing with these "dreams". Heck, we even got some information that she's been looking into the shady DA (Hey! Hi Pacey's gay cop brother).

And let me first point out, I think Erica Durance did a tremendous job with the material. She's obviously been given lots of great story this season, and she's making the most of the opportunity. She really did do some of the best acting on her SV career in this ep. I was really impressed!

While the therapy sessions were pretty amusing, a part of me really felt like they were redundant. Because maybe its just me, but I already knew where Lois was coming from in regards to Clark/The Blur. Its pretty much been established, and I didn't really feel like I got anymore insight here. At least not from that first session. Obviously it was there to set up the subsequent sessions, where Lois is given a situation so that she can verbalize how she'd feel about finding out that Clark and the Blur were the same person. And then later, in the last therapy session, she's given a forum to verbalize that as much as something stirs inside her when The Blur calls, its Clark that her thoughts come back to.

And see, I'm fine with all that. Save for one thing. Where is the same sort of situation created so Clark could get this same sort of character illumination and exploration? As I said, I already knew what Lois felt. After this episode, I am no more closer to knowing where Clark is coming from emotionally then I was prior to the episode. I know that he's into Lois. That much is clear. But I don't know what it is about her that attracts him. Sure, I could come up with good qualities about Lois, and I can certainly understand why Clark would love her. But wouldn't it be much nicer to hear that coming from him?

And I'm still not any closer to understanding how he thinks this flirtation/romance is going to work out without him being honest with her. And after this episode (before the last moments, obviously), I still have no clue why he won't tell her the truth.

Yes, yes, I know. We can all come up with explanations, or wanks. We SV fans have become experts at this. But why should we have to? The show demonstrated with this episode that they can create a whole storyline that gives a SV character the venue to verbalize their feelings, and bring the viewers right on the same page with them. Thats what they did for Lois here. So why should we have to wank Clark's feelings? Where's Clark's venue?

I've never been a huge fan of the Lois/Blur stuff. I think a lot of that has to do with so much of its development happening in Offscreensville, and a lot has to do with the fact that I don't really buy her having all these feelings for a voice on the phone. But I do think this episode did a good job of casting more light on it, and providing more insight. But, I have to admit, Lois' snit about The Blur not calling her didn't do her character many favors, nor did her quickness to believe he was screwing up. Because I think we are supposed to believe that part of Lois' feelings for The Blur are due to admiration of his heroic acts. So, making it all about whether he calls her or not was...well, not one of my favorite Lois moments. Lets leave it there.

But for me, Lois is just flat out more charming and likeable when she's all about Clark. And I mean Clark being Clark. I find the Lois and Clark stuff 20x more charming and moving then the Lois/Blur stuff, which always leaves me with this uneasy feeling about what Clark is doing, and how Lois is reacting.

I think all the Clark/Lois scenes in this episode were very cute, and exceedingly well performed. Though I've always felt that TW and ED have chemistry, it can be a little hit-or-miss with them. But this episode, they were humming.

Overall, I find Clark very heroic, very charming, and very adorable in this episode. I think he's been awesome this year. Which actually fuels a lot of my frustration with the screentime this season. I know, for some people, they say Clark is written so well, so it doesn't matter if he has less screentime. And thats fine. I get the sentiment. But for me, I see Clark being so awesome and written so well, and I can't help but be disappointed that I'm not seeing more of him!

I'm also not a big personal believer that its sufficient for a character to be discussed for the storyline to be all about him. Even if it I did buy into that, its still not as satisfying as having the character on screen. Let me put it this way....if you were really hungry, would it be enough for someone to just talk about food in front of you? Or would you really need the food in front of you to satiate the hunger?

I scare myself when I make up metaphors. My brain is a scary place. ;)

Back to Clark, I did love how Clark was prepared to step forward to prevent his fathers shield from being degraded. And although he listened to Chloe's lecture #478, I liked that he was still prepared to walk into that press conference, and do what he felt he needed to do. Because, ulimately, its his life, his secret, his decision. And I think that needs to be respected.

I also loved how he was able to give The Wonder Twins that talk of inspiration at the end. So often lately, I haven't really felt that Clark has been allowed to be that beacon of light for other characters, so it was nice to get back to that. And the young actors who played the Twins were convincingly in awe. Who wouldn't be?

Now, there was one area that I was unhappy with Clark, and that was with his final scene with Chloe. I am beyond tired of him just letting this stuff go with her. First off, bottom line, spying on people is shady in general. Spying on your friends under the guise of protecting them, or knowing better then them? Is heinous, and unacceptable. Clark was right to be bothered by the cameras last week, and finding out that she was bugging his phone calls should've sent him through the roof. Instead, he rightly voices his objections, Chloe gets smug with him, and scolds him like he's a brain damaged puppy, and the conversation ends. Ah, Hell Naw!

Lets not forget that Lois wouldn't be tipped off to Clark in the first place if Chloe had not been listening in on Clark's phone calls, and had not been properly monitering her equipment. Sure, she threw Lois off the scent. She also put her onto it in the first place.

Like with Clark, I think Chloe as a character is really suffering from a lack of POV here. I'm really not sure where she is coming from, and I'm totally confused as to what message the show is attempting to send. Are we supposed to see her as wrong? I can't really tell. I think we are, but then again, this show has set up situations like this before only to not deliver. Heck, they did that last season with Chloe and the Doomsday arc. Is all this for naught? And we can see that Chloe seems totally fine with Clark being into Lois, but does Chloe have any concerns for her cousin being lied to? Does she think Clark is setting himself up for another world of angst? I have no clue, because Chloe has precious little POV here.

All I know for sure is that Clark/Chloe scenes are really bugging me. And some of the acting choices, particularly from AM for me, are confusing. I described Chloe's attitude towards Clark last week as barely tolerant, and I felt more of the same this week. And maybe she's still mad at him for walking away from her, or not bringing back Jimmy, but again, No POV here. So, I just don't know.

Now, some random good stuff:

I thought the Clois teaser was gorgeous and very sexy. Shirtless Tom, FTW!!!

I also thought the last Clois scene was beyond cute. I loved the nod to the glasses. But I especially liked Lois kicking over the newspapers, climbing on top, and kissing Clark's lips off. I think I was especially tickled because I think it was the first on screen acknowledgement that Clark is really freaking tall, and a gal needs a boost up to reach him. It was a great move though.

The SFX of Lois hanging from the flagpole was awesome. I don't know whats changed this season, but the show looks great, and not cheap at all.

Some nice clothes (and pretty use of green on both Lois and Chloe), but again with the longer shirts, short jackets. GRRRR!!

Very well cast guest stars. Interesting choice for the psychiatrist, especially.

And saving the best for last....Dear Mother-of-God (oops, don't let Brian Peterson see me using a religious reference), what the heck Tom Welling? Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week? How is this possible? You, sir, are not of this Earth.

So, I'm sure I've forgotten some points I wanted to make, but maybe I'll cover those in comments.

Thanks for reading my rambles.

Next week...Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome....Nah, just Pandora :)

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bradygirl_12
Nov. 15th, 2009 06:03 am (UTC)
Good review, Val! :)

I agree with you on Clark/TW being incredibly sexy this season! :)
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 06:07 am (UTC)
He's just so unreal. I mean, I know I'm totally a fangurl with him, and all, but he's just so freaking gorgeous. It doesn't seem possible.

Love your avi.
bradygirl_12
Nov. 15th, 2009 06:09 am (UTC)
You're right, he's not of this Earth. ;)

Thank you! :)

Mmm, Tess! :)
wrighty555
Nov. 15th, 2009 02:44 pm (UTC)
My wife and I just watched this last night..She wasn't really up to watching it because of the preview..Then that first scene came on..

Steve : "Guessing you want to watch it now, huh?"

Wife : "mmmmmmmmhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

Sometimes I really do hate that man..lol. ;)
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
Oh come on now, you and your wife must have "exception" lists, right? LOL
serenography
Nov. 15th, 2009 06:22 am (UTC)
I think you covered the bulk of my (sensible) thoughts on this episode nicely.

These especially:

But kudos to new SV writer, Ann Coffel Saunders for making two of the lamest cartoon characters rather entertaining.

They were a nice surprise, but I am glad their screentime was limited. In their situation, I don't have a problem with not having any more of their backstory.

I find the Lois and Clark stuff 20x more charming and moving then the Lois/Blur stuff,

I think it's that I love "Clark" so much that I NEED for Lois to love him too, far and above his alter-ego. Total projection, I know. So yes, I adored that she kept referencing what a wonderful and special guy he is.

I was especially tickled because I think it was the first on screen acknowledgement that Clark is really freaking tall, and a gal needs a boost up to reach him. It was a great move though.

Awesome scene, wonderful staging, and totally sexy. I did laugh a little at her fainting, only because she was doing exactly what I'd likely do in that situation - without the flashbacks though.

Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week? How is this possible? You, sir, are not of this Earth.

AMEN. (Another religious sentiment to inspire Brian P.)

And dude... go back for the Karan boots. Or better yet, just order them online and have them delivered. Life's too short. ;)




jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:35 pm (UTC)
Its always nice to hear that you've made sense to someone. I often get the feelings that I'm the only one that gets where I'm coming from.

Like you, I need Lois to love Clark. Just Clark. Because like you, I love Clark so much. And I have to admit, when she describes Clark as "heroic in his own way", I bristle. Because Lois has seen Clark be heroic in ANY way. What do you call jumping in front of a bullet? And she's had to have heard about his high school heroics. I'm not quite sure why its still a tentative issue for her. Or anyone who knows Clark, actually.

You are a bad influence on my wallet. LOL
mahaliem
Nov. 15th, 2009 06:30 am (UTC)
what the heck Tom Welling? Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week?

I know!

I'm not sure if this is correct or if it's only my perception, but I think part of it might be that this season (and maybe last) we're seeing more full length shots of Tom.

I remember swooning before whenever we got to see him from the tips of his shoes to the top of his head and not just his upper half. I loved whenever he was working on the farm because that's usually when you saw all of him.

jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:36 pm (UTC)
I hadn't thought of that. Full-length Tommy? Makes sense.

I just think he looks spectacular. Just lovely.
(Anonymous)
Nov. 15th, 2009 07:27 am (UTC)
Since Clark and Chloe had a lot of focus last season, this season is the flipside where they were not emphasized. Instead, Lois and Oliver
were emphasized. Like I said, the therapy scenes were redundant because we already knew Lois' feelings for Clark back in Echo. We need to see Clark's viewpoint and feelings here. We didn't know much about the Wonder Twins in the SV universe, but there are a couple of hints.
Notice that the November sweeps were not Clark-centric.
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:38 pm (UTC)
I guess I believe that Clark focus should be the #1 priority every season, so it shouldn't really matter if he had focus the previous season.

But its obvious that I don't think like SV's PTB. God knows!

You would think that sweeps would rachet up the Clark focus, but not so much. Ah well.
tjw_jaypat
Nov. 15th, 2009 08:59 am (UTC)
Tom can´t have gotten more beautiful this episode because it was shot after Echo (in mid-August). Because if you say that he is more beautiful than in last week´s episode, it means that he was more beautiful in August than in September, meaning that he got less beautiful later, which contradicts the original statement... :)))))

Oh, Tom, you make us all go nuts! :)
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:39 pm (UTC)
Who are we kidding? He's just more beautiful. Period. And I think every week, we have our breath taken away anew.
goodvibe
Nov. 15th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)
Retail therapy FTW! :-)

//But then again, maybe one of the reasons that the Twins were as entertaining as they were is because they had so little storyline. Something to ponder.//

Heh, yes. I think you may be on to something here.

//Because maybe its just me, but I already knew where Lois was coming from in regards to Clark/The Blur.//

I know you know from my review already, but I sort of had the opposite reaction to this. I think I welcomed the insight so much because it seemed to make clear that while there'll always be something about the Blur that stirs something within her, her heart in its entirety belongs only to Clark. Up until now we were either seeing her feelings for the two run side by side, such as in 'Metallo' or 'Rabid' or we had just Clark/Lois development with not even a mention of the Blur such as in 'Crossfire.' I think I needed an ep where both would be a present feature and for Lois to unequivocally decide / declare that Clark is ::it:: I do think though that maybe the therapy scenes could've been cut down in length.

//Where is the same sort of situation created so Clark could get this same sort of character illumination and exploration?//

Now this, as you again already know, we are in total agreement about. How I ::crave:: for a Clark!centric ep like this.

//Though I've always felt that TW and ED have chemistry, it can be a little hit-or-miss with them. But this episode, they were humming.//

I feel the same way. This season their chemistry has been particularly spot on in eps like 'Rabid', 'Crossfire' and now 'Idol.'

//But for me, I see Clark being so awesome and written so well, and I can't help but be disappointed that I'm not seeing more of him!//

Very well put and ITA. And btw, the hunger / food analogy makes total sense to me. So maybe we're both wonky that way, heh.

//Lets not forget that Lois wouldn't be tipped off to Clark in the first place if Chloe had not been listening in on Clark's phone calls, and had not been properly monitering her equipment. Sure, she threw Lois off the scent. She also put her onto it in the first place.//

True, all true. But I'm tellin ya Val - embrace the Zen! It's much easier that way. ;-)

//(oops, don't let Brian Peterson see me using a religious reference//

::is lost:: Did BP talk outta his ass again?
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC)
I adore shopping like other people adore breathing. I could live in a mall.

I see what you are saying with Lois, and insight into her thought process, re: Clark, The Blur. I guess, for me, nothing that came out in this episode is particularly a revelation though. But, I still think I'd be fine with it if the insights into Lois' heart and mind weren't so heavily outweighing the insights into Clark's heart and mind.

This season their chemistry has been particularly spot on in eps like 'Rabid', 'Crossfire' and now 'Idol.'


Agreed. And Echo and Roulette felt a bit off for me.

Very well put and ITA. And btw, the hunger / food analogy makes total sense to me. So maybe we're both wonky that way, heh.


I love company in my wonky-land. And thank you for validating my metaphor. LOL

And Oh Yeah, BP talked out of his ass. Bigtime! With the "Chloe is the lynchpin" to Clark becoming Superman. And she's "paramount" to his development. And she's the Mary Magdalene to his Messiah.

Really, no shitting you there.
svfan01
Nov. 15th, 2009 12:45 pm (UTC)
"The SFX of Lois hanging from the flagpole was awesome. I don't know whats changed this season, but the show looks great, and not cheap at all"

Probably because we haven't had many scenes showing the street of Metropolis(most scenes are closeup shots of the characters as opposed to wide angle views). lol

"Back to Clark, I did love how Clark was prepared to step forward to prevent his fathers shield from being degraded. And although he listened to Chloe's lecture #478, I liked that he was still prepared to walk into that press conference, and do what he felt he needed to do. Because, ulimately, its his life, his secret, his decision. And I think that needs to be respected"

I honestly wish Chloe/Clark scenes would be more Clark bouncing ideas off of her and coming to his own conclusion rather then Chloe lecturing him like he was 14 and her name was Jonathon.

ON a final note you didn't mention the "it's your parents fault scene". One of the funniest scenes ever on the show
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:47 pm (UTC)
Good point about the Metropolis street. Its like they finally figured out how to make it looks more real.

And Yes! to the way you'd tweak the Chloe/Clark scenes. I feel like I've been saying this for a long while, but I want these 2 to have scenes together, I just wish they were written differently.

That was a very funny line. I also liked Clark saying that Lois tells him what color underwear she's wearing everyday. Though I can't imagine why she'd tell him that, its still funny, and TW's delivery on that was hysterical.
duskwillow
Nov. 15th, 2009 01:18 pm (UTC)
But then again, maybe one of the reasons that the Twins were as entertaining as they were is because they had so little storyline. Something to ponder.

I loved that. Honestly, I don't care about why they were doing their superhero helping thing. Unless we get big guest starts (like Flash, Cyborg,...), I'd rather most of the episode focuses on our cast, and the guests get minimal exposure. Why waste time on someone we don't know, most of viewers don't care about, and who'll be gone soon, never to be heard from again.

But I don't know what it is about her that attracts him. Sure, I could come up with good qualities about Lois, and I can certainly understand why Clark would love her. But wouldn't it be much nicer to hear that coming from him?

I'm not sure Clark could verbalize it. Like when Lois asked him in Crossfire what her good qualities that guys would like about her are, and he was all "well, you're Lois". It seems his answer about her is always that "she's Lois". I think he likes the whole package, and can't explain it. When it comes to Clark, I go with his reactions, not what he says. And it's neat to pay attention to his reactions, both as Clark and as Blur, when he's talking to her. The little smiles are dead giveaways to what he likes about her.
Plus, did you see the way he looked at her during that press conference? He fell for her even more, then and there. :)

And I'm still not any closer to understanding how he thinks this flirtation/romance is going to work out without him being honest with her. And after this episode (before the last moments, obviously), I still have no clue why he won't tell her the truth.

Well, he said he didn't call her as Blur after Metallo because he wanted to protect her.
Now the moment she admits of knowing the Blur she gets thrown off the roof, so I can imagine him going "see, knowing my secret is dangerous!"
I think he should reconsider telling her if they get into relationship, because then it won't be only protecting her, but lying to his SO [Lana situation/dilemma all over again].

But, I have to admit, Lois' snit about The Blur not calling her didn't do her character many favors, nor did her quickness to believe he was screwing up. Because I think we are supposed to believe that part of Lois' feelings for The Blur are due to admiration of his heroic acts. So, making it all about whether he calls her or not was...well, not one of my favorite Lois moments. Lets leave it there.

I actually liked that. One of my favourite moments in the episode was when she yelled "Oh you want to go there!? There's a way you treat a woman, it's called respect!" lmao
It was so Lois. It just goes to show that she'll treat the Blur like everyone else no matter what. You know she'd rip anyone else a new one if they called her frequently, then stopped calling without explanation, and then called when they need a favour. And I respect that, how she won't settle just for being a back-up call when someone needs something, even if she admires that person.

I also loved how he was able to give The Wonder Twins that talk of inspiration at the end. So often lately, I haven't really felt that Clark has been allowed to be that beacon of light for other characters, so it was nice to get back to that.

I enjoyed that too. Especially after that interview with TPTB earlier this week pissed me off.

But I especially liked Lois kicking over the newspapers, climbing on top, and kissing Clark's lips off. I think I was especially tickled because I think it was the first on screen acknowledgement that Clark is really freaking tall, and a gal needs a boost up to reach him. It was a great move though.

That scene turned me into a bumbling, squeeing fangirl. It was amazing.
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:51 pm (UTC)
Why waste time on someone we don't know, most of viewers don't care about, and who'll be gone soon, never to be heard from again.


I guess, for me, if they aren't going to get any dimension, they just seem like a waste of time.

I'm not sure Clark could verbalize it.

Maybe not, but I'd sure love him to try. I'd like him to get that type of focus. And I certainly think we could have him verbalizing why he won't tell her the secret, and why he thinks its OK to go on dates with her under those circumstances, and more along those lines. There is a lot about Clark's feelings and motivations that I'm not really getting here, and its just because he really hasn't had much POV in all this. I do get that he's enamoured of her. That comes through loud and clear. But I think we can dig a little deeper into Clark. I'd least I'd like the show to try.
la_belle_isa
Nov. 15th, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
I pretty much agree with your review. I was surprised with the Wonder Twins, they were really well cast and well written. I did like them more that the Legion guys (sacrilegeous comment about G. Johns' writing, I know).
I'm tired of having Lois' thoughts analysed, scrutinized and underlined 4 times. After all, we ALSO got to read her mind in Echo. "The Lois diaries" show is NOT that interesting when you're not a Clois/Lois fan. I don't buy the unavoidable "It's all about Clark" comment. A therapy session is a "me,me,me" session by definition.
Isn't that sad that every Clark-story without Lois is a B-plot?
//what the heck Tom Welling? Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week? How is this possible? You, sir, are not of this Earth.//
Yes! Yes!! He's so distracting! I kept on stopping the episode to take caps of him! He's so insanely beautiful!
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:54 pm (UTC)
Oh, its OK. I don't think Geoff Johns walks on water either. ;)

I don't buy the unavoidable "It's all about Clark" comment.

Me either. Its just not how I see it.

Isn't that sad that every Clark-story without Lois is a B-plot?

I'm hoping thats going to change with the emergence of the Zod storyline. But we'll see. With Callum Blue only sitting out 2 more eps for the rest of the season, he's going to have to start taking a more prominent role.
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jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
Re: part I
Alas, I felt that the boots were an extravagance I didn't need at the moment. It pains me to say that. Why can't I win Mega-Millions?

We've talked about this before, but I don't want Clark to come off even a little bit looking like a jerk in any of this and the only way that can be avoided is if he's allowed to fully articulate why he's going to pursue a romantic relationship with her without fully coming clean.

Yes! Yes! This is what I'm saying. I don't want to have to guess. He's the main character! Why are we guessing about where he's coming from? Thats nuts.

And since, apparently, Lois just talking about Clark makes the show all about him (umm, OK), then see, if we have Clark just talking about Lois, then we aren't really taking away any focus from her. Right?

He really needs someone to talk to, and there's just no one. Its so depressing. :(

Just yes to everything you said about Chloe. And the fact that they are already writing in these justifications makes me think we are supposed to be OK with her actions. And I don't get that at all.
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jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 10:02 pm (UTC)
Re: part II
So, yeah, Chloe like Clark doesn't really have someone to confide in. So, both characters suffer for having no confidant to talk to, so both characters are suffering for a lack of POV.

Its a big problem the writers have created.

I love TW's body. I like a big guy.

I'm pretty convinced that the wardrobe master/mistress has one fashion magazine, from like 5 years ago, and just keeps doing the same crap. I don't understand it at all.

OK, now I have a visual of Tom bathing in the blood of virgins. Thanks! Thanks a Lot! ;)
shopgirl318
Nov. 15th, 2009 10:28 pm (UTC)
I agree with your review 100% I hope you keep watching until the end of the show with us. On the whole Chloe/Clark front another poster said maybe it is left over bitterness that he couldn't/wouldn't bring Jimmy back, (although it would be funny if Clark did bring him back and he turned his back on her). You said that she doesn't have a problem with the clark/lois thing, well I think she does. In the first few episodes of the season she those jealous looks and the fact that he confides in Lois alot more also may stem from this also. I still think she may have left over feelings for Clark also and the fact he doesn't look at her like Lois I know this ship has sailed seasons ago, but after watching Idol again I thought about that.
jeannev
Nov. 15th, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
I'm not going anywhere. I'm in it until the end. I love Tom too much to ever bail.

And really, I still love the show. I may have negative things to say, and I complain, but I also try to say something positive as well. I don't bash the actors. And while I do on occasion speak very negatively about characters, I try not to call them names, or get truly offensive about them. I may always succeed there, but its what I strive for.

Chloe may very well have a problem with the Clark/Lois thing. Its just right now, she doesn't have much POV, so I'm not really sure. Actually, it would make sense on several levels if she did. Not because she's still in love with Clark, but because she had front row, center, for the whole Clana drama. And I'd expect her to worried about how this is going to work for Clark and Lois without honesty.
jlvsclrk
Nov. 16th, 2009 02:31 am (UTC)
Great review! I agree that although the scenes with the psychiatrist were fun, they were also unnecessary - I at least already knew how she felt about the Blur. But the fact that Lois was being disturbed enough by her dreams to see a therapist did kinda foreshadow the collapse at the end, even though I didn't see that coming. (I'd seen a spoiler a while back but the episode completely sucked me in, so I was still surprised.)

Its horrible that Clark has no one he can talk to about where his head's at. The few times he's tried with Chloe, she just jumped to give him instructions. That's not friendship sweetheart. I hate it when people blame Clark for the breakdown in their relationship and refuse to acknowledge Chloe's part in it.

Anyways, that last scene totally made this episode for me. Everything about it worked but especially the way she kicked over the newspaper for the kiss. Totally adorable, then wickedly hot when he took control. Great stuff!
jeannev
Nov. 16th, 2009 02:49 am (UTC)
Thank you! :)

I thought, for me, this was a pretty upbeat review. I always tend towards the critical, but I tried to point out the positives too.

I agree with you that they were probably setting up Pandora in this ep, hence the discussions of dreams.

I think I'm just really frustrated that we aren't getting this sort of illumination into Clark, and I don't expect we will.

I miss Mom Kent :( Clark needs someone to talk to. I HATE that this show has isolated him to such a degree that he really has no confidante. I get that Lois will be that, someday. But she isn't now. So, he's left with no one.

Oh, I think Chloe has played a big part in the breakdown of the Chlark friendship. I acknowledge Clark's part in it, definitely. But she had a big ol' role to play there as well.

The last Clois scene was very adorable. I was hoping that she was going to plant one on him, and she did.
brijeana
Nov. 16th, 2009 04:17 am (UTC)
And see, I'm fine with all that. Save for one thing. Where is the same sort of situation created so Clark could get this same sort of character illumination and exploration? As I said, I already knew what Lois felt. After this episode, I am no more closer to knowing where Clark is coming from emotionally then I was prior to the episode. I know that he's into Lois. That much is clear. But I don't know what it is about her that attracts him. Sure, I could come up with good qualities about Lois, and I can certainly understand why Clark would love her. But wouldn't it be much nicer to hear that coming from him?

Yes it would. *sigh*

I'm also not a big personal believer that its sufficient for a character to be discussed for the storyline to be all about him. Even if it I did buy into that, its still not as satisfying as having the character on screen. Let me put it this way....if you were really hungry, would it be enough for someone to just talk about food in front of you? Or would you really need the food in front of you to satiate the hunger?

I scare myself when I make up metaphors. My brain is a scary place. ;)


Actually I think this metaphor is perfect. Especially in reference to Clark. YUM! hahaha!

And saving the best for last....Dear Mother-of-God (oops, don't let Brian Peterson see me using a religious reference), what the heck Tom Welling? Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week? How is this possible? You, sir, are not of this Earth.

Hee!

That wasn't so bad. Phew! I do think that Chloe ... suffers from lack of POV. I've thought that in the past about Chloe also. She doesn't really open up about her personal life... a lot. She opens up about Clark's life... how she feels about it, but not about herself.

I guess it's true that Clark really needs someone to talk to. I read a review that suggested that Jimmy could have been that for him... I really don't want Chloe to be that for him. I know she helped him take a chance in "Crossfire" but I was miserable with Chloe being Clark's go to advice person during Clana.

Enjoyed your thoughts.

jeannev
Nov. 16th, 2009 04:55 am (UTC)
Thank you for liking my metaphor. I was scrambling for a way to describe how I felt, and this is the best I could come up with.

Yeah, at this point, I don't really think Clark and Chloe could be there each other like they used to. Because of the way the storyline has played out, I think it might be strange. And I think I've always felt it was going to be very weird to have Chloe be between Clark and Lois the same way she was for Clana. Because really, with Clana, you always knew Clark was her priority and first loyalty. But with Clois, should that be the case? It gets dicey.

And then, of course, I kind of feel Chloe deserves a break from Clark's romantic issues. LOL

And Thanks. I'm about to head over and comment on your thoughts, which I also enjoyed.
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jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2009 12:29 am (UTC)
I agree with you on the Lois therapy scenes actually. I think my only issue is that there's some very serious in-depth, getting to know Lois and her feelings going on with the show, to include reenforcement. I just wish we could level the playing field a bit because there are some other characters on the show that could really use some fcous on their POV's.

I really don't think anything is going to come back and bite Chloe in the ass. I just really don't.

Sorry for your shopping woes. I'm sure the turkey will be delicious. :)
(Anonymous)
Nov. 16th, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC)
I guess I really don't understand the love for how Clark is being written this season. Yeah I get he isn't depressed anymore but I think they could be doing so much better. Why didn't Clark try to figure out who is make super cyborgs. Why didn't Clark try to find out why his blood was the only cure for the virus. Why was Chloe the one to find out the Kandorians were on Earth. Why does Clark think starting anything with Lois is a good idea right now when he thinks the world is going to end in a year. Why did Chloe have to remind him of Infamous when he is suppose to be the only one who remembers. He was ready to reveal himself, but for some reason when Lois is talking about killing herself to protect his secret he continues to lie. Every time he gets on Chloe about something he just lets it go.
I'm not trying to be a hater I just think Clark could be written better than this and I was wondering about your thoughts about my complaints.
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2009 12:34 am (UTC)
I understand the love for Clark this season. Of course, look who is talking, someone who loves Clark every season. LOL

You do point out a lot of plotholes in Clark's story, but thats nothing new. They do this every season. And of course, they decide things like Clark training are better off in Offscreensville, rarely or never mentioned. Its some odd writing choices.

I don't think you are being a hater. Clearly, you've brought up several valid points. And really, when I talk about Clark not being front and center on the show, and when I mention a lack of POV for him, and when I disagree that everything is revolving around him, this is some of the stuff I'm thinking about. Why is his storyline with Lois so much more prominent for him than a lot of the other stuff you've mentioned?

But, I do see why people love him this season. He's confidant, and manly, and witty, and just seems generally more comfortable in his skin. He doesn't seem tenative. Its a positive change for him. Of course the writers could be doing much better though.
twdiva
Nov. 16th, 2009 11:54 pm (UTC)
"The show demonstrated with this episode that they can create a whole storyline that gives a SV character the venue to verbalize their feelings, and bring the viewers right on the same page with them."

In earlier seasons, they proved the same thing with Clark as well. Back then, he had his parents as his main sounding board. But then Jonathan gets killed midway through season 5, and Martha moves back into Lionel's romantic orbit without too much resistance, which seemed to put some distance between her and Clark that they never really recovered from. Then Annette leaves the show, so no more Martha either except an occasional mention once in a blue moon.

Also in season 5, Lana and Clark still have the dreaded secrets and lies as the big elephant in the room before she moves on to Lex, Lex and Clark are no longer friends, and Pete is gone (and left with a bitter taste in his mouth, to boot). And in season 6, I know people were hoping that Jimmy and/or Oliver would be a friend Clark could lean on at times, but Oliver acted more like an antagonist than an ally and Jimmy was often jealous of Clark due to all the time Chloe was spending with him.

In the meantime, they tried to have Chloe fit the bill as Clark's new sounding board but that never came off right: she's his peer, not his mentor, and doesn't have the experience in life or in raising an alien with super powers on Earth like Martha and Jonathan did. And this season, when they do interact nowadays, they give off a late season 5/early season 6 Clark/Lana or Clark/Lex vibe (just minus much of the "kicked puppy dog eyes" look coming from Clark's end). So basically, Clark has no one on the show who knows The Secret who he can go to in order to articulate his thoughts for the audience.

"I'm also not a big personal believer that its sufficient for a character to be discussed for the storyline to be all about him. Even if it I did buy into that, its still not as satisfying as having the character on screen. Let me put it this way....if you were really hungry, would it be enough for someone to just talk about food in front of you? Or would you really need the food in front of you to satiate the hunger?"

I'll make another real life analogy (or at least I'll try my best). It's like hearing Cassidy or Erica or Allison or (put guest star name here) give these insights about working with Tom. I smile when I hear Cassidy poke fun at him about filming that scene in Rabid, or when Erica says that Tom comes to work looking prettier than the girls on the show or that he's a gentleman even during the more intimate scenes, or when Allison gushes over how much he takes the other actors' input into consideration when it comes time for him to direct an episode, or when James Marsters gives his permission (ha!) for people to crush on TW because he's not just all looks.

But for a lot of TW/Clark fans, that still doesn't satisfy to the same degree as listening to or reading an interview from the big guy himself does. Until this past summer, we'd had a TW blackout, so to speak, for years. We didn't get much, if any, insight from him about Clark or his storylines, or guest stars who've come on the show, or what it's been like directing his co-workers, etc. For Clark, it feels like we've gone even longer without getting a consistently articulated POV from the character on various issues that have effected him over the years.

That's how I feel about the focus issue. Yeah, his co-workers and various guest stars praise and even gush over him, but the interview is still mostly focused on them as actors and on the character they're playing on Smallville. Now, I'm not one of those fans who actually desires Tom to give more interviews (though when he does give one, I run to check it out just like every other TW fan), but I would very much like to start getting more into his character's head again on the show.
jeannev
Nov. 17th, 2009 12:37 am (UTC)
I couldn't agree more with you that Clark just doesn't have anyone in the confidante role to talk to. And the people that were tentatively qualified for that position, Chloe and Oliver, they went ahead and screwed that up this season. They dredged up Oliver's "love" for Lois, so that makes Clark talking about Lois to Oliver pretty much out of the question. And of course, they've put this obvious strain between Clark and Chloe.

I'm not sure why this hasn't occured to anyone writing the show, but then again, I've long since been convinced that Clark just isn't their priority. Even this season, where he's great to watch, I still don't see him as their priority.

And I LOVE YOUR ANALOGY!! Thats so much better then mine. And its perfect. I want to kiss it!
tariel22
Nov. 19th, 2009 01:24 am (UTC)
As I said, I already knew what Lois felt. After this episode, I am no more closer to knowing where Clark is coming from emotionally then I was prior to the episode. I know that he's into Lois. That much is clear. But I don't know what it is about her that attracts him. Sure, I could come up with good qualities about Lois, and I can certainly understand why Clark would love her. But wouldn't it be much nicer to hear that coming from him?

I agree so much with everything you say here, and in the two paragraphs that follow. We need the other side of that coin, and I'm tired of guessing what Clark is thinking and feeling, or trying to discern it from Tom's wonderfully expressive face. I've fanwanked so much on this show, I've forgotten I shouldn't have to!

But for me, Lois is just flat out more charming and likeable when she's all about Clark. And I mean Clark being Clark.

Yes, absolutely, and I think for me, a big part of that is how Clark reacts to her in those moments. He's happy, and playful, and adorable, and I just love seeing him interact with someone who isn't harping on him or telling him how he's doing it wrong.

I see Clark being so awesome and written so well, and I can't help but be disappointed that I'm not seeing more of him!

My feelings exactly! We finally get Clark being everything we always dreamed he could be, and they dole it out to us like it's a precious commodity. Which evidently it is. :/

I liked that he was still prepared to walk into that press conference, and do what he felt he needed to do. Because, ulimately, its his life, his secret, his decision.

I love the strength of Clark's resolve this season. He knows himself, and although he'll listen, he won't necessarily be swayed. I was glad they gave him the opportunity to articulate his viewpoint with Chloe. My reaction to that scene was, wow, she doesn't get him at all.

I'm really not sure where she is coming from, and I'm totally confused as to what message the show is attempting to send. Are we supposed to see her as wrong? I can't really tell.

I'm getting the message that Chloe is sliding down the proverbial slippery slope loud and clear, but that might just be me. Like you, I'm not at all sure what the show is trying to say. I thought they were saying that Lana was wrong in S7, but since there were no consequences for her actions, I must have been wrong. Ditto for Chloe in S8. So I don't know what the hell to expect for or from Chloe now.

I also thought the last Clois scene was beyond cute. I loved the nod to the glasses. But I especially liked Lois kicking over the newspapers, climbing on top, and kissing Clark's lips off.

I LOVED that scene! And that kiss worked way better for me than the one from Crossfire.

Dear Mother-of-God (oops, don't let Brian Peterson see me using a religious reference), what the heck Tom Welling? Just, what the heck? How do you get more and more beautiful and sexy every week? How is this possible? You, sir, are not of this Earth.

So, so true. And who wouldn't want more of THAT as well? :)
jeannev
Nov. 19th, 2009 01:32 am (UTC)
I think I might be OK with having to wank what Clark loves about Lois. I'd rather it was verbalized, but OK. I can deal. But I really, really need to know what he expects from this relationship, why he's going into it with this secret between them, why he isn't remembering his own history with keeping a secret like this in a romantic relationship, etc. All that needs to addressed and discussed. On screen.

My sister said something interesting to me the other day. She said "They're just going to pretend that this is the first woman he ever loved, and the first time he is encountering this dilemma". She may have a point.

Like you, I also come away from Chlark scenes thinking she doesn't get him at all. And even more prominent? I don't think Clark gets Chloe any longer either.

I often compare Chloe's current arc with Lana's from S7. And I thought that was ultimately a big flop, so I wouldn't be surprised if this does a similar fizzle.

And Tom is just so damned gorgeous, they could just have episodes of him walking around, eating, brushing his teeth, combing his hair, dressing (*drools*), and I'd be happy with tht.
tariel22
Nov. 19th, 2009 02:14 am (UTC)
But I really, really need to know what he expects from this relationship, why he's going into it with this secret between them, why he isn't remembering his own history with keeping a secret like this in a romantic relationship, etc. All that needs to addressed and discussed. On screen.

This is the one thing that's kind of driving me nuts right now. How could he go through all that crap with Lana and then just do it again?!

My sister said something interesting to me the other day. She said "They're just going to pretend that this is the first woman he ever loved, and the first time he is encountering this dilemma". She may have a point.

Wait. I thought you said your sister was a casual viewer of the show. She sounds like an expert to me! ;)
ceburaskas
Dec. 20th, 2009 11:01 am (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
jeannev
Dec. 21st, 2009 04:44 am (UTC)
Thank you! :)
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