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And so the season concludes (not with a bang, but a whimper)

Running Time: 42m, 19s (longest episode of the season)
(previously on: 1m, 29s, the longest previously on's)

Clark: 21m, 40s
Chloe: 16m, 18s
Lois: 7m, 54s
Jimmy: 9m, 40s
Tess: 4m, 9s
Davis: 8m, 10s
Oliver: 5m, 26s

Final Character Tally (# of eps)

Clark: 447m, 55s (22)
Chloe: 290m, 30s (21)*
Lois: 154m, 29s (12)
Jimmy: 113m, 4s (11)
Tess: 119m, 17s (13)
Davis: 118m, 2s (12)
Oliver: 129m, 55s (12)

*Allison Mack appears in all 22, but the character of Chloe does not appear in 8x21

I'll be comparing these numbers to prior seasons, and posting some of that in the coming days. 

And now, lets talk Doomsday
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One of the few amusing lines in this episode.

Well, I hate to be one of the crowd, but I'm going to be anyway....this episode was awful.  Just God awful.  I'm actually amazed that someone sat down and wrote this idea and then produced this episode as a season  finale.  A season finale is supposed to be a cut above the rest of the season.  A season finale is supposed to keep you on the edge of your seat.  A season finale is supposed to leave you wanting more, and counting the days until the next season begins.  A season finale is NOT supposed to make you want to hurt someone, and wonder if its even worth it to tune into the next season.  And yet, thats pretty much where this season finale left me.

Of course I'm still interested in Clark's story.  And in the hands of competent, talented writers, Clark's decision to walk away from humanity, and divorce himself from his human side could be dramatic and compelling.  But its in the hands of Souders/Peterson, 2 writers who have as much interest in Clark Kent as I have in professional hockey, this is never going to happen.  Does anyone really believe that this is a storyline that will be given the respect it deserves, explored to its full extent, and really told from Clark's POV, with his emotions and feelings in the forefront?  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!  Nope.  This is far more likely to be wrapped up in 1 episode (2 if I'm generous), involve Chloe lecturing Clark on doing the wrong thing (Clark will inevitably tell her she's so right, and roses just sprouted out of her ass), and then Clark will apologize to her, Oliver, the JLA, , Shelby, random extra guy, inanimate objects, and so on.  Because that is how SV rolls at this point.

BUT, putting that aside, I actually do understand Clark's decision at the end.  Of course, the dialogue was for shit.  But thats also par for the course. 

I don't really think it was Davis and his actions that caused Clark to lose his faith in humanity, and want to distance himself from human emotions.  I think it was Chloe, and her actions.  I think it was Oliver, and his actions.  I think it was the betrayal from Dinah and Bart (Bitches!).  I think it was Jimmy's death.  I think it was Lois' disappearance.  I think its Tess and her crazypants fanaticism.  I even would go back, and throw some Lana and Lex in there.   

And it seems to me that the people in Clark's inner-circle, the ones that he trusts the most, have let him down in such a big way.  How can he not want to pull away from that?  They doubt him, lecture him, insult him, lie to him, decide he's unable to fend for himself, do heinous things in the name of "protecting" him.  For the most part, Clark has really shitty friends.  And while Lois is not one of those, the fact remains that she's not really in his circle of trust.  For no logical reason except thats not how the story goes.

I've said for a long time that I wouldn't blame Clark at all if he decided to pack up Shelby, and head to a quiet cabin in the woods somewhere and just be alone.  Because the reality, according to this show, is that no matter what Clark does, somehow HE IS WRONG!  Always wrong!  Trusts his own judgement?  Wrong!  Listens to his "friends"? Wrong!  I know its exhausting to watch, so its easy for me to believe it would be an exhausting and depressing life for someone to live.  If Clark wants to withdraw, and just say "Fuck it!", I can't blame him.  Because the show decided that his whole life should be a series of losses, tragedies, mistakes, mishaps and unhappiness.  Why?  What does this have to do with Superman?  Well, jack shit actually.

I think Chloe has managed to out Lana Lana.  I'm amazed.  Yes, we had sniveley tears, and "woe is me, I'm alone!" from Chloe in this episode, but that chick skated like Katarina Witt.  No one, NO one, NO ONE stopped to say "Hmmm, so, you think you made some mistakes and miscaculations here Chlo?"  No, instead poor Jimmy has to go out on an extended testimonial to just how wonderful and heroic Chloe is.  Just never you mind about the murder, and the body part dumping, and the serial killer lusting.   Pffffft!  That was all for Clark...but she really wanted to save Davis...but she never left Jimmy...but everything she does is for Clark....but Davis is so dreamy...but Jimmy knows her so well, and so on. 

Here's the thing Show....if you are going to create all this ambiguity about a persons motives, and carry that ambiguity all the way through to the last episode, don't be surprised if people have a hard time recognizing the halo you place on that characters head.  Hell, they actually have Davis recount the story of Hades and Persephone in this episode, where the kidnapped maiden CHOOSES to remain with her kidnapper (part of the time, anyway).  And Chloe dreamily answers to that with "as long as we can keep the Gods from hunting us?".  Is that not supposed to be a big horking clue?  And I'm supposed to be believe that its All For Clark, and She Never Left Jimmy?  

I do want to make mention of the one scene in this episode that definitely did work....Jimmy finding out about Clark.  In a sea of fail, this was a buoy.  Played beautifully by AA and TW, this was a reaction to Clark's secret that ranks among the best.  Jimmy was understanding, sweet, awestruck, and most of all, so happy to be vindicated. 

Jimmy was not my favorite character, and he was badly used on the show, but I will miss AA and I think they did him a terrible disservice.  And really, they told AA he was "going to die for Chloe"?  God, they suck!  In fact their whole excuse for killing off Jimmy was a complete embarassing lie.   And the never before mentioned younger brother?  Really?

I'll just throw out some other random observations I made:

Why was the music so loud during the Clark/Rokk scene?  Why was there a Rokk scene?  If they needed to ring to zap Lois away, for reasons I do not understand, why not just have Clark keep the ring in Infamous?

So, Tess told her security guys about the Orb?  Doesn't that seem ridiculous?  Don't you think that would be something that she'd...I don't know...want to keep secret?  I burst out laughing when she told her security guy "Find the Orb".  So, they all know what it looks like and shit?  Did she pass it around?  Way to make Tess look crazy AND stupid show!  And she assumes Lois stole it?  Why?  So we could have a chick fight?  And why was Lois staring at the ring like it was the Hope diamond?

Lois sees Clark typing something on his computer, and he doesn't want to talk about it....then he's gone, and she gets a call from the RBB who wants her to print his letter.  No bells ringing here for Lois?  I wanted to enjoy the Lois/RBB stuff, but how can I when its impossible for any reasonably intelligent person to figure this out?  Not to mention, that I just don't think we got the build-up to Lois' girl crush on the RBB.  It should've been a big part of the season, and it should've had buildup.  But because Lois got the shaft in the latter part of this season, and they didn't spend enough time on it, I find myself not overly moved by this sort of thing.  Frankly, I'd prefer a build-up between Lois and Clark.  Hold the RBB.

What was up with Regan video?  Isn't he dead?  Did this happen before Tess killed him?  WTF?

Why did Clark get dressed in his work clothes and go back to the DP after his meeting with Dinah and Bart?  Wasnt that odd?

Why does Oliver keep yammering on about Clark's "ego"?  How ludicrous does that sound coming from this jackass?  And really, how the hell could it ever be OK for Dinah and Bart to set Clark up, so that Oliver could shoot Clark in the back with a kryptonite arrow?  And then we get no "Sorry, it has to be this way".  No, instead we get a dickish "It won't kill you".  No, it will just cause him to writhe on the ground in agony for God knows how long.  How would Oliver even know how that would effect Clark over a long period of time?  And Bart was OK with this?  BART??!!  That was one of the sickest things I've ever seen this show do.  Clark should never, ever have anything to do with Oliver again.  God, that was so sadistic and horrible.  

Chloe to Davis: "We'll get through this together, like we always have?"  Umm, what?  How long has she even known this guy?  But, whoops, I forgot, its All For Clark, and She Never Left Jimmy.  I keep forgetting.

So, let me get this straight, Davis and Doomsday get seperated, Doomsday is unleashed in all his Unstoppable Killer glory, and he carefully renders everyone in the room unconscious and leaves?  Why didn't he tear them limb from limb?  What possible reason would  a killing machine have for knocking everyone out (and how was this achieved) and leaving?  

Is it the line, or just AM's delivery?  You make the call!  When Clark asks her what happened, her response is "Exactly what you wanted Clark.  I used the Black-K to split them".  Well, first of all, Clark wanted to BE THERE when that happened so that he could handle Doomsday.  But lets not let details get in the way.  But why does Chloe seem snippy about this?  

Anyone spot the reused shot from Vessel?  Cheap!

Funny thing to look for:  When Clark is speeding towards Doomsday to save the little girl, catch the couple in the background who seem to be calmly strolling towards Doomsday, like they are on their way to the movies.  Hysterical!

Jimmy is dying, laying in Chloe's arms and he apologies to her?  For what?  "Sorry I bled on you"?  And he also says he loves her, and Chloe says nothing?  I think AM is a very talented actress, but she was just terrible in that whole scene.  Her rediscovered love for Jimmy rang completely false.  Her shock and horror at Jimmy being impaled just didn't seem extreme enough for the moment.  Her interaction with Davis seemed to lack any sense of rage or even panic.  And her holding the dying Jimmy in her arms seemed rather blase.  Compare her in this scene to her in Odyssey when she's holding Clark.  It just feels like she checked out of this scene.

So, someone is putting Lois' picture on a missing persons board, and it isn't her cousin?  Who is it?  And really, Lois being missing shouldn't be about Chloe losing someone else "she loves".

Again, with the dialogue, but Chloe's "Why didn't you come to me?" line to Clark was like nails on a chalkboard.  Oh, I don't know, why did you...tell him about the freaking serial killer you were harboring?  And Clark says he's responsible for Jimmy's death, and Chloe says nothing?  Does she feel guilt?  Remorse?  Stupid for believing in Davis?  What?  I'm totally at a loss here.

Re-Zod is one of the stupidest ideas this show has ever come up with, and thats saying something.  Naked whoever-he-was, standing in the field chanting "Zod" over and over again wasn't some kick-ass ending.  It was silly, and giggle-worthy.  And it portends for the badness to come.  Oliver/Tess/Zod love triangle next season.  I'm calling it now.  

Its so very sad to want to root for SV to have dismal ratings next year just so they'll be forced to end it. 

 

Comments

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jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 12:46 am (UTC)
The first half of the season used Lois really well. The 2nd half? Well, not so much... I think thats probably because they were banking on a S9, and they're stretching things out. Still, it doesn't seem fair to Erica.
carolandtom
May. 16th, 2009 07:45 am (UTC)
So much WORD to everything you say!!!

And let's not forget how the not-Jimmy Olsen could afford to buy an enormous apartment for her wife-to be and then conveniently forget about having it when he needed money for her drug addition. And how creepy is it that the person who's almost as responsible for his death as his killer chooses to happily live where that horrible tragedy took place?

Oliver and the JL... Until now, I disliked Oliver till the point of wanting him death by the end of the season. Now I dislike Dinah and BART, one of the few guest stars I was always amused to see on the show. What those... (insert several insults here) did to Clark was cruel, stupid and the kind of betrayal I wouldn't be able to forgive. Are those traitors supposed to be heroes? With friends like those, Clark doesn't need any enemy. Forget about the stupid Zod idea, SV producers. You already have the villains you need right there, in their silly disguises.

Since the Lana arc finished, I've managed to watch the episodes with as much detachment as possible, as a kind of obligation to Tom, something I must cross out from my to-do list. I don't even want to feel rage or frustration. I feel something alike to contempt. I can only be sorry for the character of Clark Kent because he doesn't deserve such a treatment. And I'm sorry that the show will probably get cancelled and we'll never get the pay off his character and we, the long-time viewers, deserve. It will go out shamefully and that'll be the last disrespect to Clark Kent/Superman.

jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 12:49 am (UTC)
Not only is it unlikely that Jimmy would have this property tucked away, but why would he have told Clark about it? Its not like this show has ever bothered to show Jimmy and Clark as close friends.

Oliver and the JLA just make me sick now. Oliver is such a scumbag, but we already knew that. But how could Dinah and Bart do what they did? Especially Bart? That was so heinous.

I don't think SV will ever get cancelled mid-season, so I think they still have time to commit to S9 being their last, and try to do right by Clark. Are Souders/Peterson up to it? Most likely not.
goodvibe
May. 16th, 2009 09:34 am (UTC)
//This is far more likely to be wrapped up in 1 episode (2 if I'm generous), involve Chloe lecturing Clark on doing the wrong thing (Clark will inevitably tell her she's so right, and roses just sprouted out of her ass), and then Clark will apologize to her, Oliver, the JLA, , Shelby, random extra guy, inanimate objects, and so on. Because that is how SV rolls at this point.//

Sadly, yes, this is exactly how I foresee it happening too.

//I think Chloe has managed to out Lana Lana.//

Total Yes. She is now officially the enter of worship as far as the show is concerned and honestly, I can't quite stand the sight of her right now. And no, you're not the only one who noticed the snippiness in her "you got exactly what you wanted" line to Clark. Such passive aggressive BS from her.

ITA that Tess was crazy pants. Utterly so, in fact. But I do so love the way CF still manages to sell it, heh.

The Clark/Jimmy scene was so lovely. Truly it could have gone down as one of the greatest scenes of the series. And now it is rendered useless. Null and void.

//Frankly, I'd prefer a build-up between Lois and Clark. Hold the RBB.//

My thoughts exactly. I mean, I don't mind the Lois/RBB stuff but not at the expense of Clark/Lois. As for her staring at the ring like the Hope Diamond - heh! I'm chalking it up to either a bad acting choice or a bad directorial choice.

//So, let me get this straight, Davis and Doomsday get seperated, Doomsday is unleashed in all his Unstoppable Killer glory, and he carefully renders everyone in the room unconscious and leaves? Why didn't he tear them limb from limb? What possible reason would a killing machine have for knocking everyone out (and how was this achieved) and leaving?//

Yeah, and he also found time to wear pants apparently. Didn't this Doomsday look different than the one they used in 'Bride' or is it just me?

//Naked whoever-he-was, standing in the field chanting "Zod" over and over again wasn't some kick-ass ending. It was silly, and giggle-worthy.//

It was pathetic.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 12:54 am (UTC)
I don't even know why SV tries to do deeper, meaningful stories when they don't have the will or the attention span to do right by them.

Say what you will about Lana, I'm pretty sure she never had 2 guys fight to the death over her.

Cassidy is still amazing, and that gives me the ability to stick with her character, even when the character is written like crap. And its so annoying, because she was written SO WELL in Turbulence, but its sort of gone downhill for her since then. Still Cassidy pulls it off, so far. And I'll admit, her Tom admiration helps me cut her a ton of slack.

I just don't really think the Lois/RBB stuff will work on this show. I understand that it matches with the iconic story, but you can't deviate all over the place, then expect a story to work just because its the source material. To do so is just lazy writing. I wish they had the balls to just forge their own path.

LMAo at Doomsday putting on pants. I guess the last thing this episode needed was Doomy going around flashing people with his krytonian wang.
tjw_jaypat
May. 16th, 2009 11:20 am (UTC)
Best Doomsday review I´ve read so far! :)

I´ve given up on SV for quite a while already, and watch it only for Tom. But even so it´s getting more and more painful to watch him in this stupid show. In fact I´d be much happier if they simply turned it into the Lois&Clark show. At least some fun instead of this never ending guilt and darkness crap.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 12:55 am (UTC)
Why, thank you =)

I think I'd also be happier if the show just bit the bullet, and committed to a more Lois and Clark oriented show. This obsession with darkness and depression is just a huge drag.

I really wish Tom hadn't re-signed. *sigh*
heather
May. 16th, 2009 11:45 am (UTC)
Yeah... could not possibly agree more, with all of this.

SO disappointed in Chloe this season (and she's been one of my favorite characters), and with how much the writers apparently hate Clark. I hope he never comes back. XP

I like what you said about understanding Clark's leaving because of the people close to him letting him down in major ways, more than Davis - but it's highly unlikely that the show will actually explore those reasons in favor of some dumbass regression back to Exodus/Exile for two episodes in season 9.

Edited at 2009-05-16 11:45 am (UTC)
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 12:58 am (UTC)
I can't believe how my feelings about Chloe have changed. I'm so disappointed with where they've gone with her, and even moreso what they've done to Clark and Chloe's friendship. Yes, they are still closer then ever, but they took what seemed to be a comfortable, healthy friendship and turned it into some sort of dark co-dependency thats taken over Chloe's life, and makes Clark look impotent in her presence.

I also think the show won't explore far more compelling reasons for Clark leaving then Davis turning out bad and Jimmy's death. Because to do so would be an indebtment of Chloe and Oliver, and I don't think the show is willing to do that at all.
la_belle_isa
May. 16th, 2009 12:12 pm (UTC)
Great review Val! I salute you and all the fans who take time to analyse episodes that don't deserve it.
//I think Chloe has managed to out Lana Lana. // ROTFL! I predict that if this trend continues in S9 ( and I see no reason it won't), then fans are going to end up hating Chloe as much as they hated Lana.
This was a typical Souders/Peterson episode, but worse, because now that they're the sole exec producers, I guess they don't get edited. Since they like to torture Clark mentally and physically, it doesn't look good for S9. The only thing I saw when Clark said "Clark Kent is dead" was those writers shouting YES!! And my question is: wth is entertaining in all that stuff? Isn't it the whole point of a TV show? It's just painful to watch and no fun at all.
I don't understand their need to have members of the JLA at all cost, while they recycle footage from previous episodes. If they don't have the budget to do a decent Sci-Fi show anymore, they should end it.
//Its so very sad to want to root for SV to have dismal ratings next year just so they'll be forced to end it.// I totally agree with this. And it's even sadder for me that Tom hasn't left in S8 with (probably) a glorious ending, instead of the network showing him the door if they cancel the show because of poor ratings.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
Thanks. I used to LOVE doing reviews, and couldn't wait to rush to my computer to share my thoughts. Now its more of a chore.

I've never been a fan of Souders/Peterson. In fact, if you asked me what I'd rather have...Souders/Peterson in charge, or the the return of AlMiles, I'd probably choose the latter. And anyone familiar with my reviews knows how painful that is for me to say. The show is in the worst possible hands at this point.

I don't know exactly why they've decided that this show shouldn't be fun. When the show does allow itself to laugh, its actually fairly good. But this unwillingness to stop kicking Clark in the teeth, and this love of dark, twisted no-win scenarios is just exhausting at this point. What fun is there watching a show thats all gloom and doom? Even Supernatural, which is usually pretty heavy, allows the characters to crack jokes.

I hope whatever Tom go, it will be good for his future career, because I can't see SV doing a thing for him at this point.
gildinwen
May. 16th, 2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
I don't want Smallville to have dismal ratings next year, but I don't Tom to sign on for another season, because I think it's time Smallville ended. Every show we've seen that gets it's ninth season, ends there, and you know Tom will up type if he continues much more in the role.

But Ollie and Chloe and the 'Justice League' just need to fucking die. They decided to poison him!!! What Ollie thinks that this is going to Clark's 'Island? Him realising that humanity isn't all it's cracked up to be??Ollie you fucking douchebag!!! Clark's hope in humanity is what sets him apart from the other heroes, in that he sees the good in people, and loves them for it. Does he really want Clark to become that dark angry god, he thinks he should be. Does he want to see the not benevolent alien over lord Kal-EL? or does he want Clark to go away to that he can be the big hero again? *punches him*
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:07 am (UTC)
Whatever it takes to prevent a S10 from happening, thats what I want (short of any real life tragedy befalling Tom, or other cast members). It just really needs to commit to an ending, and do it.

I still want to hold out hope for Chloe, and I still want them to write her better, and rediscover the character. That doesn't mean she has to go back to being a reporter, but they should go back and rewatch the episodes and remember what made her work so well as a character. It sure as hell wasn't turning her into a Lana-type of character.

Oliver, Dinah and Bart? I don't know. I don't think they can be salvaged for me. I can't believe I'm even saying that about Bart. What they did to Clark just is so heinously wrong to me, I can't excuse it, and I can't reconcile it. They left him face down, bleeding, with a kryptonite arrow in his back (poison to him), writhing in pain, and completely vulnerable. How will that ever be OK? How can they ever work together? It won't ever work for me. Victor and AC? Sure, they can come back, and I'll just believe that those 2 would never have gone along. Because to believe otherwise, I'd have to hate all their disloyal, stupid asses.

gildinwen
May. 16th, 2009 01:24 pm (UTC)
And I'm not accepting the Jimmy Retcon. No fucking way. They made Lois the same age as Clark, they can have Jimmy be the same age. Fuck off with that shit, SV
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:08 am (UTC)
The Jimmy retcon was terrible. If they were married to the concept of killing off Jimmy, then just do it. Don't erase his existence, and spit on what AA did. Just explain that, in this version, Lois and Clark no longer have their Jimmy.
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siobhan_w
May. 16th, 2009 02:25 pm (UTC)
I do want to make mention of the one scene in this episode that definitely did work....Jimmy finding out about Clark. In a sea of fail, this was a buoy.

This was probably my fav part of the ep (not that there was a huge amount to choose from...). I'm so glad that Jimmy found out and that he reacted the way he did, even if it did mean that he was gonna end up dead.


Re-Zod is one of the stupidest ideas this show has ever come up with, and thats saying something


Yeah...after I finished with the yawn, I rolled my eyes. I wish they could be a bit more original with their villans. The Doomsday arc had great (unfortunately unfulfilled) potential so they have it in them but they've done the Zod thing before and I wish they could come up with something new.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:10 am (UTC)
I am glad that they gave AA that last scene with Clark. It was really nice.

The idea of Re-Zod is so assinine. And it will be doubly so if they don't even get Sam Witwer to play the role. Of all the potential villians for a S9, Re-Zod makes just about the least amount of sense.
chatchien
May. 16th, 2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the numbers on the characters. Another season of Smallville and another excellent time talley.

but that chick skated like Katarina Witt.

Hahaha! Hic! I haven't watched ice skating in ages, who is the new Ice Queen, I wonder?

've said for a long time that I wouldn't blame Clark at all if he decided to pack up Shelby, and head to a quiet cabin in the woods somewhere and just be alone.

And the tractor, Clark should take the tractor to tinker with on those quiet evenings out in the woods. I can see Clark now, Shelby under one arm and the tractor under the other as he strides toward the tree house that he and Pete made. :-)

I think AM is a very talented actress, but she was just terrible in that whole scene.

I've had some doubts about Miss Mack's choices when she played Brainiac in the fortress with Davis. That wasn't Brainiac, it was Bette Davis playing Brainiac. Then I compared it to Miss Vandervoort playing Brainiac in the airplane the season before. That was Brainiac. I've been a fan of Miss Vandervoort's ever since.

The whole second half of this episode seemed off to me. The first time that I saw it, I was confused and it still doesn't make much plot sense to me. It's got holes in it and I hope that the first couple of episodes next season fill in the plot. Time travel is such a bitch.

I'm not very happy with the character of Chloe right now, like you. But I do have a few things to say in her defense.

At the new loft set (looks like the barn set to me, might be the Talon), Not Jimmy tells Chloe: "I know about Clark". Chloe looked disappointed and defensive to me, like can't we keep this secret between us?. Not Jimmy also says: "I see what you sacrificed for him." Chloe says: "I've lost so much."

And I think that they are both right. When was Chloe happiest and the most coherent character? When she didn't know about Clark and had a life of her own. Seasons 1-3 and when Clark mindwiped her before her wedding. Chloe is paying a heavy personal cost for knowing Clark's secret. It might not make her a "hero", but it is a burden for her. And she doesn't always carry that burden well.

This whole season showed just how falliable and how wrong-headed Chloe could be despite her intelligence and skills and friendship with Clark. I thought that we were headed for a big payoff or payback for Chloe at the end of this season for all her bad decisions. We didn't get it, in my opinion, Not Jimmy and Davis dying was not the payoff, though Clark leaving her might be the beginning of it.

Chloe thinks that she will wash that splotch of XJimmy's blood off the floor of her loft with the righteous actions of the Justice League, if she can just get them going again. Chloe's always been a pretty optimistic character, but perhaps, she will learn this time that blood is a real bitch to get out. That is something that Clark knows all too well. I am waiting for the consequences to start sinking in with Chloe and the ghosts to start haunting that loft of hers.

Maybe that won't happen, but then Chloe tells Clark when he is guilt-tripping: "I know full well who killed Jimmy." OK, Chloe, then start thinking about it.

And another point about Chloe, after Clark talks about looking for Lois, Chloe clues in and says: "You were at the funeral, weren't you? Why didn't you come to me? I really needed you."

In that context, the line about "why didn't you come to me" doesn't sound as selfish. It was more a "we both lost people, so we know how to comfort and uphold each other". Let's not be alone in the face of death.

And I also got the impression that when Chloe talked about the Missing Persons Bulletin flyer about Lois, that was not when Chloe first learned about Lois's disappearance; that was when it really hit her that Lois was Gone and was not going to show up anytime soon.

I took a second look at this episode because it confused me and Chloe's actions were not as blatantly selfish on the second go round. So I'll blame some of my Chloe unhappiness on the writers. And I'll blame them for losing me in the second half of the episode.

Anyway, I'll be back next season and a little time travel of my own might let me appreciate Chloe again.

Sorry for the long comment, chop it up if you like.


jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
I believe the new queen of skating is a Korean girl. I can't think of her name, but she's pretty awesome =)

Clark should definitely take the tractor. And maybe those pictures in the Kent house of vegetables. I never could quite figure out what the hell those were.

And PLEASE, do not apologize for long comments. I welcome them!! Feel free.

Ditto on AM playing Brainiac. Just...not good. I'm still trying to figure out what was up with the swagger. Has Brainiac ever swaggered?

When was Chloe happiest and the most coherent character? When she didn't know about Clark and had a life of her own. Seasons 1-3 and when Clark mindwiped her before her wedding. Chloe is paying a heavy personal cost for knowing Clark's secret. It might not make her a "hero", but it is a burden for her. And she doesn't always carry that burden well.

I can understand that, and I actually agree. I do think this is a situation that Chloe does choose for herself, since she could ask Clark to back away and he would. But yes, there can be no doubt that she does carry a heavy burden, and she has let Clark's life overwhelm her own life.

This whole season showed just how falliable and how wrong-headed Chloe could be despite her intelligence and skills and friendship with Clark. I thought that we were headed for a big payoff or payback for Chloe at the end of this season for all her bad decisions. We didn't get it, in my opinion, Not Jimmy and Davis dying was not the payoff, though Clark leaving her might be the beginning of it.

I hope you're right. If they do have these realizations sink in come S9, I will gladly take back what I said. But I fear this isn't what they have in mind. I very much see a Lana-S7 thing happening here, where TPTB will admit that Chloe might have made some bad choices, but they'll defend her intentions, and shove the blame off to someone else.

I'm not quite sure why Chloe would not tell Clark not to blame himself for Jimmy's death if "she knows full well who is responsible...". And I guess I think that even if one doesn't believe Chloe played a part in Jimmy's death, wouldn't you expect her to being feeling responsible all the same? Just knowing that it was Davis who killed him, and he did so out of anger at you? I'm not talking about whats rational here, but what about whats human? And Chloe seemed to be missing that.

And definitely, the biggest amount of blame is on the writers. Frankly, I'm not sure they covered any character in glory here.

I'll be back next season too. With my screentime totals, and grumbley reviews. :)









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canadabear
May. 16th, 2009 11:58 pm (UTC)
And it seems to me that the people in Clark's inner-circle, the ones that he trusts the most, have let him down in such a big way. How can he not want to pull away from that? They doubt him, lecture him, insult him, lie to him, decide he's unable to fend for himself, do heinous things in the name of "protecting" him. For the most part, Clark has really shitty friends.

OH MY GOD. I know. I just... he's supposed to be the guy they all turn to in the end, isn't he? Isn't Supes the "go-to" guy? Do they all just up and realize one day that holy shit, Clark can THINK FOR HIMSELF? I could understand it with Lana, but S&P have made it ridiculous this season. I'm surprised Shelby isn't out buying his own dog food and feeding himself, because fuck, Clark sure as hell can't possibly do that all on his own.

Is it the line, or just AM's delivery?

Delivery. There were ways that line could have been said that weren't so completely bitchy and exasperated. That had to have been a deliberate choice on either AM or the director's part, although I don't know why. Oh, wait. So Clark looked like an ass. Sorry, I skipped off for a moment there.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 01:25 am (UTC)
I would just love for Clark to turn around and just tell everyone to back the hell up. Assure them that the guy that can shoot fire from his eyes, and take a bullet to the chest, and run faster then a speeding bullet, and jump tall buildings, and blow away a house with a breath....might not need people to keep fucking protecting him anymore.

And its as if the show doesn't even realize how this undercuts Clark. Because if those closest to him, who know about his abilities, don't trust him to handle a dire situation, then why should the rest of the world? I don't understand why they don't see the doubt they're instilling in the audience. And worst of all, even when Clark is right, the show seems loathe to admit that.

AM's delivery on a number of lines in the last few episodes have had me scratching my head. And she's such a capable actress too. So, I'm confused.
tasabian
May. 17th, 2009 07:02 pm (UTC)
That was one of the sickest things I've ever seen this show do. Clark should never, ever have anything to do with Oliver again. God, that was so sadistic and horrible.
That was the most distressing moment for me, that they left Clark, helpless and in pain, just lying in the street. Lex would never do that and these guys are supposed to be the heroes!

When Clark asks her what happened, her response is "Exactly what you wanted Clark. I used the Black-K to split them". Well, first of all, Clark wanted to BE THERE when that happened so that he could handle Doomsday. But lets not let details get in the way. But why does Chloe seem snippy about this?
It's a very strange line delivery - I wonder if the snippiness is intended for Oliver & Co? But in that case it would have made sense for Chloe to say the line while looking at Oliver & him scowling back at her.

I think Chloe has managed to out Lana Lana. I'm amazed. Yes, we had sniveley tears, and "woe is me, I'm alone!" from Chloe in this episode, but that chick skated like Katarina Witt. No one, NO one, NO ONE stopped to say "Hmmm, so, you think you made some mistakes and miscaculations here Chlo?"
It's absolutely Lana! "Getting off" with the hottie villain while claiming to be doing it "all for Clark?" Check! Hubris and poor planning leading to the death and harm of others? Check! Taking a purely solipsistic view of a tragic outcome? Check!

The funniest line was when Jimmy tells Chloe how much of a hero she is and Chloe, straight-faced, says "I've given up so much."

Only bright light on the horizon: Tom as an EP next year. Maybe he can filter the awful soapiness of Souders/Peterson.
jeannev
May. 17th, 2009 10:09 pm (UTC)
Lex would never do that and these guys are supposed to be the heroes!

I completely agree with you. I don't think Lex would've done that.

And to compound matters, the director decides to have the 3 characters walk over to Clark, stand ominously over him with no pity or regret on their expressions, and then has Oliver say something cold and nasty, while neither Dinah or Bart objects.

Thats nuts! Why would Clark ever have anything to do with these people?

I think AM made a lot of very odd acting choices in these last few episodes. I'm not sure what was going on with her, or where she was coming from, but it just seemed to feel like there was some sort of constant hostility boiling under the surface towards Clark. And that would've made sense if she knew about the mindwipe, but she didn't. So, I don't really get it.

I totally believe S8 Chloe=Lana. I acknowledge there are differences, but to me, the similarities far outweigh them.

Do we have confirmation that Tom will be an EP next season, or is it just wishful thinking?
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jeannev
May. 18th, 2009 01:53 am (UTC)
Re: part II
But that doesn't work at all, because there's no reason Clark should feel particularly let down about the fact that Davis turned out to really be an asshole even without the benefit of Doomsday being part of him; Clark's suspected Davis was an asshole since Prey.

Honestly, there was never any particular reason for Clark to EVER be so convinced that Davis was a good person except if you go on the assumption that he was following Chloe's lead on this. If she was so convinced that Davis was a decent person, and worth saving, then it had to be true, right? At least from Clark's POV, because he trusts Chloe, and her judgement, and he doesn't want to believe that she's really all about a serial killer.

See, thats the only way it makes sense. Since the show didn't bother building up a relationship between Clark and Davis, but instead focused all their energy on Chloe and Davis, then surely Clark's feelings and actions towards Davis have to be taking a cue from Chloe. Which, if TPTB weren't idiots and actually throught things through, would perfectly explain why Clark is so withdrawn from Chloe at the end, and feels the need to seperate himself from humanity. To some degree.

But I just don't think this is where they're going, because there seems to be some writers blindness at acknowledging that Chloe might be wrong, or that she did something pretty heinous. And I don't understand why. Because these people wouldn't hesitate to slap a "WRONG" sticker on Clark's ass at the slightest provocation.

I completely agree with you about Tess. She was going along so well, and then it went downhill fast. Which is actually an apt description of SV S8, isn't it?

It's the Langs! Reincarnated!

LMAO

Thats it! That must be it.
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May. 18th, 2009 03:24 am (UTC)
This season saw the reversals of Lana and Chloe. Both Kara and Lana had better sendoffs than Jimmy and Davis. The sad thing about this season finale is that Clark is right while Chloe, Oliver, and Tess are wrong and both Lois and Jimmy ended up paying for it in different ways.
jeannev
May. 18th, 2009 03:48 am (UTC)
Jimmy and Davis surely didn't get much respect with their send-off's, though I'm not sure Lana and Kara fared much better. Lana, no matter what the writers intended, came off as seriously unbalanced to me, and Kara sort of just disappeared and is forgotten.

This show just sucks at adequately honoring characters once their gone, or doing their exit in a satisfying way. The only exceptions I can really think of are Jonathan Kent, and maybe Lex in Arctic (debateable though).

I know I'm supposed to feel bad for Chloe at the end because she "lost everyone", but I just can't. Because I was just waiting for that light to go off for her, and for her to have regrets, and she just didn't.

Oliver? Sucks.

Tess? Well, she's the bad guy, so I cut her some slack. Her moral skew is supposed to be off.
jlvsclrk
May. 18th, 2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
So much of this episode just made me go WTF? I gave it a B because I did like some fairly big chunks of it, but whenever I think of Chloe and Ollie and Dinah and Bart I start to think this must rank with the worst episodes ever. For me what salvages it is Clark's reaction at the end. ITA with you that his stated reason has nothing to do with his real reason for backing away from humanity. It would have given me a great deal of satisfaction for him to have given Chloe a tiny piece of his mind, but he's not that type of guy. But he could and should at least have mentioned Ollie's actions - and I still can't get over Dinah and Bart standing idly by and then abandoning him.

I can't get too worked up on the Jimmy front because he's never been my favorite character in any incarnation of the Superman myth. I had him as slightly more likely than Ollie in the death #2 pool, and figured sooner or later we'd meet a cousin Jimmy. It is a shame though, because this episode showed how awesome AA could be when used properly - ie, not in the context of Chloe's love interest. That final Chimmy scene made me disgusted.
jeannev
May. 18th, 2009 10:48 pm (UTC)
For me, I think the parts I liked were pretty few and far between. Probably only the Jimmy/Clark scene ranks as a good one to me. I didn't completely hate the Lois/RBB phone call, and I actually didn't hate Clark walking away from humanity at the end. But not hating, and actually liking something are 2 very different flavors.

I just don't even know how I'm going to deal with Ollie scenes next season, because right now even thinking about him talking crap to Clark makes flames shoot out of my head. I just can't even abide the thought of it.

Jimmy was never my favorite either, and I think if they had straight up killed Jimmy Olson, and just owned that, I'd feel OK with it. But the fact that they killed him, then took away who he was? It just feels so wrong, and my heart really goes out to AA. And the fact that he has to die in Chloe's arms, apologizing to her and professing love is just nauseating to me.
pep_singer
May. 19th, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
//Why does Oliver keep yammering on about Clark's "ego"? How ludicrous does that sound coming from this jackass? And really, how the hell could it ever be OK for Dinah and Bart to set Clark up, so that Oliver could shoot Clark in the back with a kryptonite arrow? And then we get no "Sorry, it has to be this way". No, instead we get a dickish "It won't kill you". No, it will just cause him to writhe on the ground in agony for God knows how long. How would Oliver even know how that would effect Clark over a long period of time? And Bart was OK with this? BART??!! That was one of the sickest things I've ever seen this show do. Clark should never, ever have anything to do with Oliver again. God, that was so sadistic and horrible. //

When Oliver shot that dart into Clark's back and Dinah and Bart just stood there and left Clark withering on the ground in pain for hours, I was seething. I could've broken my foot off in all three of their asses. That has to be one of the most rage inducing scenes in this show's history, and this show has plenty of rage-inducing scenes.

At this point, I am just disappointed in Chloe. Chlark is one of my favorite pairings on this show, and now, I'm at a loss of words for Chloe. I think the idea that Clark's lost his faith in humanity due to his friends is certainly plausible at this point. I don't understand why they are doing this to my two favorite characters on the show. One is going to forever BE! WRONG! and the other is making morally questionable decisions. Are they trying to ensure that I won't watch next season?

//Re-Zod is one of the stupidest ideas this show has ever come up with, and thats saying something. Naked whoever-he-was, standing in the field chanting "Zod" over and over again wasn't some kick-ass ending. It was silly, and giggle-worthy. And it portends for the badness to come. Oliver/Tess/Zod love triangle next season. I'm calling it now.//

I had a friend in RL say to me that the finale was "The shit" mainly because of the ending. I replied, "if you mean the finale was *shitty*, then I agree." Supposed kick-ass endings do not make up for the horrid 55 minutes that preceeded it.

And poor AA. Even though I didn't always like Jimmy, I thought AA did a good job with the character over the past 3 years. His send-off was handled badly, IMO. Who is this "younger brother?" Uncalled for, really. His best scene was the one with Clark where he finally figured out his secret.

This show needs to end. It needed to end with season five, but it *truly* needs to end now. It's just embarrassing at this point.
jeannev
May. 20th, 2009 01:36 am (UTC)
I still can't even process what Oliver, Dinah and Bart did to Clark. It makes me want to hurt something. And I've been debating with IDIOTS who are actually trying to defend Oliver and his loser sidekicks. You have got to be kidding me!

Honestly, I think this finale seemed to designed to ensure a lot of people don't watch next season. Really, who is happy? Who has something to look forward to? No one.

I won't lie and say that I haven't had some problems with the way they've been writing the Chlark dynamic for a while now. But I always thought that was really fixable, with some minor tweaks. But I think what happened with Chloe this season was something else altogether. I think she got handed the writing normally reserved for Lana. And its a terrible fit, and just totally not who Chloe is, or who Chloe should be. They done her wrong!

I don't understand why anyone would be psyched about the Zod thing at the end. I really don't. It came out of left field, makes no sense at all, and Zod is a villian thats really only good for a few episodes, max, before he needs to be banished again. What is he going to do, try to blend him? Go underground? Thats not Zod, so why bother writing him like that?

I keep hoping they'll get the word early on in S9 that its the end. Its the only possible chance of a decent ending to the show.
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miss_tress
May. 20th, 2009 02:37 am (UTC)
I watched this ep with some friends that usually tease me about my love of such goofy/horrible show. And even they joined me in righteous fury over what Ollie, Dinah, and Bart did. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

I did cry over losing Jimmy and I totally want to kick all the producers in the balls for the crappy way they treated AA and his character. The scene with Clark was the decent part. *vows to protect tinynewJimmy from all the douche bags on the show*
jeannev
May. 20th, 2009 02:45 am (UTC)
I'm just stunned that anyone could believe what Oliver, Dinah and Bart did is even remotely ok. Stunned! It made me hate Bart. And I loved Bart, and was dying for him to come back. But thats how heinous it was. I'm almost more mad at him then the other two, because Oliver's been a douche all season, and Dinah does come off as sort of a bitch. But Bart? Clark's amigo? I'm devastated.

The Jimmy (and he'll always be real Jimmy to me!) and Clark scene was the standout scene. No doubt about it. It seems to be the one scene almost everyone seems to agree was decent.
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svgurl
May. 21st, 2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the screentime totals! Your review is totally perfect too and I agree with all of it.

This was definitely the worst season finale in SV history. It would've been stupid as a regular episode but as a finale? Major FAIL.

I love Clark but I don't trust his storyline to be handled well by Peterson and Souders. PLEASE tell me that Tom is an executive producer next year. Lie to me if necessary! I just ... can't handle this show anymore if he isn't. :( And you're right; for some reason, telling it from Clark's POV is boring to everyone. God, I hate the showrunners. These are the same morons who were openly blaming Clark for Davis's transformation!

This is far more likely to be wrapped up in 1 episode (2 if I'm generous), involve Chloe lecturing Clark on doing the wrong thing (Clark will inevitably tell her she's so right, and roses just sprouted out of her ass), and then Clark will apologize to her, Oliver, the JLA, , Shelby, random extra guy, inanimate objects, and so on.
Is it wrong I laughed here?

Clark seriously has the worst friends ever. What happened to J'onn? I miss him. And Rokk should've stuck around longer. :\

Jimmy was not my favorite character, and he was badly used on the show, but I will miss AA and I think they did him a terrible disservice.
Same here. I can't believe they spent 3 years building this character and suddenly were like "JUST KIDDING! HE'S NOT THE REAL ONE! IT'S HIS BROTHER! LOLZ!" I feel badly for Aaron and his fans. Plus, like you, I LOVED that Clark/Jimmy scene. Of course, he is someone Clark can trust so he had to go. /sarcasm

I never thought I would say this but Chloe is WORSE than Lana. I honestly can't see her pulling the stuff that Chloe did in the past couple of episodes. I mean, she is a bad friend, she's a bad wife and she's a sucky cousin. I got a twisted pleasure out of Clark walking away from her.

I hate that they're doing the Zod plot again. LAME.

I'm glad we have this break ... I need it. :\
jeannev
May. 21st, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
No question that this was the worst finale. But honestly? I'm not sure SV had had a really great finale since Commencement. Vessel was OK. But Phantom, Arctic, and now this? Disappointing. Well, this one was beyond disappointing, actually.

I would love to tell you that Tom is an exec producer, but I cannot tell a lie. And I'm even wondering if it would matter, since Tom is a pretty mysterious guy. Is he fine with all this? Who knows?

I think what happened to J'onn was that he was too old, too black and too expensive. At least from TPTB and the CW's POV.

For me, it doesn't matter who is worse, Chloe or Lana. All that matters is that both of those characters, and actresses, deserve better writing, and both of the characters were/are written to the detriment of Clark. And thats big no-no in my book!
tariel22
May. 23rd, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
You know how hard I try to find the good in every episode, and Doomsday was no exception. But I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading your review! Even though I liked the episode more than you did, especially after watching it a few more times, I still agree with everything you say. I want to quote the best parts, but then my comment would be as long as your review. :) But special thanks for your observations about Clark's "friends," and the true reasons he decided to reject humanity. Yes, yes, yes! I'm so glad to have you on my flist, and to have the benefit of your wit and intelligence when discussing this crazy show. We'll never turn away from Tom, of course, but I've never been more tempted to wash my hands of this show than I was in the moments after my first viewing of this finale.

After watching the episode multiple times, the parts that offend me the most are the JL's utter betrayal of Clark, Jimmy's deification of Chloe, and Chloe's "what about meeeee?" attitude in her last scene with Clark. My favorite scenes are Jimmy finding out Clark's secret, and Clark coming close to telling Chloe off before turning and walking away. I'm worried about next season, but I've got my fingers crossed nonetheless.
jeannev
May. 25th, 2009 01:35 am (UTC)
At this point, all we can do is hope for the best for next season, because its not as if we're going to stop watching. I think we're a bit too devoted to Tom, and Clark, for that.

And really, as much as I didn't care for this episode, its not that hard to make something out of it. A lot of the pieces are there. Its really just up to the writers to get their heads screwed on straight, and remember whose story they are telling here.

I'm not sure what story they are trying to tell with the JLA here. But frankly, they suck! A lot! And if they're willing to follow Oliver, even after finding out about his killing Lex, then I'm not sure what the show is trying to say about them. It can't be trying to tell me how good their character is. Can it? With SV, you can never know for sure.

Chloe needs some major rehab'ing as a character. If she's the same next year as she was this year, I'm not sure how much enjoyment I can get out of S9. Because I'm sure she'll still be sucking up a lot of the screentime.
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