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Smallville writers are insane-Rant!


There can be no other explanation.  The new showrunners for SV are nuttier then the 2 we got rid of.  What started as a prettty cohesive, enjoyable, Clark-centric season just seems to have flown off the rails

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Super-Lana? Who Clark is having sex with, and is going to be forced to be parted from?

Chloe keeping Doomsday in the basement like a pet?  And throwing someone down for him to tear to shreds? (and yes, I know the guy is threatening Chloe, but STILL...thats fucked up!)

Lois will once again (probably) be stuck into leather fetish wear to impersonate a super hero because thats going to lure out the Red Blue Blur?  Does that even make sense?

Tess knows Clark's secret?

Little Doomy and Little Lex knew each other?

An entire episode thats very likely to be undone?

Body switches that are likely to please NO ONE?  Not to mention Clark supposedly gazing lovingly at Lois after barely remembering she existed once Lana blew back into town.

And worst of all,  a recast, disfigured Lex?  I'll never wrap my mind around that.

What the fuck Smallville?  No, really, WHAT. THE. FUCK?

And can someone tell me how most of these things have fuck all to do with Clark Kent taking those final steps towards becoming Superman?  This could be the very last run of Smallville episodes we ever have, and this is what these geniuses came up with? 

I'm just....just...I can't even...WTF?

What happened?  This all went so wrong, so fast.

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polytikal
Feb. 4th, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
What happened? This all went so wrong, so fast.

This is what I keep asking myself. What happened? How did this happen so fast? I swear it was just yesterday we were enjoying a great season, and then BAM! All of this crazy shit comes out of the woodwork.

Out of *no where*.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 07:58 pm (UTC)
Ya know, I could see little signs here and there we could be headed for trouble, but they seemed to keep it together. Even Bulletproof still had some substance to it (and it was, thankfully, Clark-centric). But I'm looking ahead, and looking at the spoilers, and I'm just....Are they kidding? Its like they are just pulling craziness out of their asses. And I can't figure out if this is their way or ending with a bang, or their version of stalling for a (God NO!) season 9?

A couple of bad spoilers here and there, I can understand. But this just seems like a massive clusterfuck.
dawnybee
Feb. 4th, 2009 07:56 pm (UTC)
I'm still trying to be a spoiler virgin, but I saw some details for an upcoming episode and I swore the post was a joke. That these things couldn't be possibly happening, but they are!

See, the devil you know is sometimes better than the devil you don't know.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
You might be right on that, though I wonder if we'd have had any of that good Clark stuff in the beginning of the season with the devils we knew.

But hey, they swore that they were mentored by AlMiles, and God Damn It, looks like they're out to prove it.
dawnybee
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
though I wonder if we'd have had any of that good Clark stuff in the beginning of the season with the devils we knew.
Which is very true.

I think when people take over a show, they want to put their own stamp on it. Which is fine, but when it devolves into a situation where TPTB are turning the show into their own personal playground (and using DCU characters willy-nilly) it gets them further away from what has already been established. If they're thinking this is their last season--and it could very well be---why are they bothering doing orgins storys when they should be in the final stretch? It's a Round Robin gone terribly awry.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, Yes, and WORD! I think you summed it up very well.

And someone really needs to tell PS3 that DCU characters sort of lose their appeal and specialness if they're a dime a dozen.
tariel22
Feb. 4th, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
I'm right there with you, believe me. I'm downright depressed. And I'm taking Friday off work, because I just may watch Requiem drunk, and I'm pretty sure I won't feel like doing anything the next day except wallowing. What the hell happened?

The only tiny thing I'm clinging to is that most of this is based on spoilers and speculation, and there have been times in the past where the actual episode turns out to be significantly different. But obviously the major plot points are set, and for the most part, they're CRAZY.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
I could maybe agree that it might not be as bad as it sounds, but its like each episode just builds and builds on the bad, instead of just having something that seems to be a blip.

Did they get so distracted with the Lana arc they couldn't find their way back to where they were?

I think I've shot past depressed and hit flabbergasted (Hee, I love that word!).
gildinwen
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
Please let this be speculation.
*is down on her knees praying8
Tom dammit get your wife pregant..the producers won't want Proto-Superman to be getting to be a dad, before he's put on the suit right?

RIGHT?!?!?!?!???

Oh god just cancel the series now, and just finish the story with a 6 part mini written by Geoff Johns please, please, please.

I think I'm going to cry............
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:05 pm (UTC)
I'd love to believe that this was all fake-out plot to keep their "Big Final 10!" under wraps. But frankly, do these chuckleheads seem clever or savvy enough to pull that off? After seeing the current arc, I'm voting a big NO on that.

Its all so messed up.
canadabear
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
Maybe I drained all your optimism out of you (and dude, if I did I'm soooo sorry), but I don't really see any of this as that bad.

Yes, I hate the Lana arc. But she's gone as of this week, so I can deal. The episode to be undone? Looks like it will actually have long term ramifications of Clark taking another step toward creating an alternate identity. I think that's a good thing.

The body switch doesn't bother me. Neither does Clark's supposed loving gaze at Lois, because it's probably going to be mindwhammied Clark and won't mean anything. I also don't have much of a problem with them dressing Erica up in leather, because frankly, I gather she doesn't mind.

Wee Lex and Davis knowing each other? Interesting. I doubt either of them remember it now, so it's symbolism and trying to tie everything together more than anything else and an extension of the Veritas/Traveler plot. I'll take continuity where I can get it.

Tess knows Clark's secret? I must have missed that one. If she does, I'll have to see how it works/is played out before I can decide if I'm against it or not.

The only thing that I'm not getting is Chloe hiding Doomsday in her basement, but again, I need more context than one blacked out scene in sides.

As for Lex... well, I'm going to be the one bad egg who frankly doesn't care about the "recast". I understand other people adore MR, and I loved him in the role, too, but he doesn't have a monopoly on Lex Luthor. He decided to leave and if TPTB want the character back, they have every right to do so, even without him. It probably isn't their brightest move ever, but I don't see it as evil, heartless or disrespectful at all. It's business.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:08 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm glad its working for someone :)

I think most, if not all, of it sounds just bloody awful.

And most of all, so little of it seems to really be about Clark to me.
canadabear
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
I guess we're going to have to disagree (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!), because I see most of this being about Clark.

The Lana arc? Is directly tied to Clark. Whatever happens to Lana is going to propel him for the rest of the season/series, no matter how much I dislike that. Lex's return has to do with this as well, so I count him in here.

Infamous is ALL about Clark.

Lois in leather? Is to lure out the RBB. Who is Clark.

Tess knows Clark's secret? That one's self explanatory.

The Doomsday stuff, well, he's Clark's antagonist. I think he deserves an episode (in which Clark is playing an integral part) to fully flesh out his backstory and character, because in the end, it's leading right back to Clark.

Hex is the only episode that really looks like filler to me and even then, Clark is still going to be playing a big part and will likely learn from it (even though it's a lesson he's already learned, but filler = stall).

I'll grant you that it's not my perfect, ideal build up to what could be the series finale, but they haven't lost me yet.

...Yeah, I really have no idea where this is coming from all of a sudden, since I was livid last week, but there it is.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:43 pm (UTC)
To me, the Lana arc might've been about Clark, but now I think its just there to serve Lana. Clark is just a player in her grand exit. To me, thats not about Clark.

I'm not saying that Clark doesn't play a role in all these episodes. But to me, there's a difference between that, and something actually being about him. To be about him to me, then I want his POV. I want it to have some impact on him.

Yeah, I'm just not seeing it here.
heather
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
*butts in*

This helps put things into perspective a bit, actually. I was reeling after the last ep dumped a bucket of ice-cold water on the season, which made me a bit pessimistic. So thanks, lol.

And I agree about Lex. It's going to be weird (incredibly so) seeing him played by someone else, but I mean ... he left. His decision. The TPTB don't have a moral obligation to respect, like, the spirit he left behind, or whatever. So that's a bit irrational. I love MR too, but this type of thing happens.

Edited at 2009-02-04 08:33 pm (UTC)
canadabear
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:38 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. :) I do what I can with insanity.

And you know, I think TPTB are trying to give MR his due and respect what he did as much as they can. It's not like they're bringing in some brand new bald guy, putting him behind the chair at Luthor mansion and having everyone just call him Lex. They're bringing in someone who's worked with MR in the role before. They're disfiguring him, altering his voice. They're not trying to fool anyone. Were they, I'd probably have a much different opinion.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:40 pm (UTC)
I'm just going to have to disagree on the Lex thing. If this was a show only a few years old? I could agree. If the show absolutely HAD to have Lex, then I could agree. But IMO, they could've had his presence just by showing a message on the screen, or the back of a chair and a hand.

I look at it this way, if Tom decided not to come back next year, would it be OK for them to recast Clark? Should they recast Martha? Lana's gone now, how about a recast Lana?

Soap opera's recast after 7 years, not primetime television shows.
canadabear
Feb. 4th, 2009 09:01 pm (UTC)
I look at it this way, if Tom decided not to come back next year, would it be OK for them to recast Clark? Should they recast Martha? Lana's gone now, how about a recast Lana?

Would I like it? No. But is it okay? Yeah, it is. I'm not thrilled they decided to do this with Lex, but it's within their right to take the risk.
heather
Feb. 4th, 2009 09:21 pm (UTC)
No, those are totally good points -- I don't like that this is happening. Of course they don't need to bring Lex back, and I hate that they are. It's a dumb decision; I just don't think that Michael is inherently owed anything. He shouldn't have left and they can do with Lex what they want. Even if they want to do eyerollingly bad things with him. LOL.
huzzlewhat
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:49 pm (UTC)
As for Lex... well, I'm going to be the one bad egg who frankly doesn't care about the "recast". I understand other people adore MR, and I loved him in the role, too, but he doesn't have a monopoly on Lex Luthor. He decided to leave and if TPTB want the character back, they have every right to do so, even without him. It probably isn't their brightest move ever, but I don't see it as evil, heartless or disrespectful at all. It's business.

I was actually getting my nerve up to post something along those lines. I think it's a business risk, as recasts always are, but I don't think it's disrespectful — if they tried to get MR back, and he turned them down, they're allowed to use Lex Luthor if they need him for the plot. Now, whether or not they can sell the recast to the audience, that's a different matter — but recasts happen, when actors are unavailable or unwilling.
canadabear
Feb. 4th, 2009 09:08 pm (UTC)
Honestly, they don't even need to ask MR first. He's no longer under contract to play the role, so they would have no obligation to see if he wanted to return first. Now, I'm pretty sure they did, and I'm also pretty sure MR is well aware of what they're doing, but that's courtesy and nothing more.

Now, whether or not they can sell the recast to the audience, that's a different matter

Exactly. I'm in full agreement that they're very likely shooting themselves in the foot by doing this, but it's their risk to take. Obviously, they think it's worth it.
jude_judith82
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:23 pm (UTC)
I quickly scrolled down because I'm avoiding all spoilers like the plague. I don't like hearing them I find they bias me. I'm hopeful that the season ends well and I hope that I at least find it enjoyable. On another note I'm really sorry you're feeling so sad about the season a tv show should not make you feel this way. I'm pissed they have drained all your optimism.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks *hugs* I hope that it plays out much better, and that you (and I) can find something to enjoy. :)
heather
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*

Please let this all be a fakeout. I'm not much for spoilers, I only clicked the cut because I'm starting to not give a damn. But usually SV is better at keeping their plot stuff under wraps, right? I mean. I'm just thinking back to the 'zomg who's gonna die' brouhaha from season 5, and seem to remember them doing some fakeouts and doing a pretty good job keeping that one quiet.

/babbly hopeful rambling

God, the season was SO GOOD before the break. Personally I can see how at least some of those things could turn out better than they sound, but overall, good fucking grief.
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
I'm mesmerized by your icon. LOL

I don't think there's any fake-out here, but there's always the possibility that there are things we don't know that could make it not suck as completely. So, all hope is not lost.

I just feel like the first half of the season was so far away. *sigh*
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jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 09:53 pm (UTC)
Thanks, but Hey, you never know, things could always play out better then they sound. I'm just not going to expect it to. That way I can be taken by happy surprise.

For me, its not a matter of whether they can recast Lex. Of course they can. But that doesn't make it a good idea, nor does it mean that its something they should do. I'd much have preferred that the last time we saw Lex Luthor's face, it was him being in the FOS with Clark, and being played by MR. YMMV

When an actor leaves I expect their character to be remembered, but I don't think we should see them being played by someone else. But thats me....
svgurl
Feb. 4th, 2009 10:24 pm (UTC)
What happened? This all went so wrong, so fast.

I asked myself that every minute I was watching 'Power'. PS3 really managed to pull one over my head ... I actually had HOPE. Stupid me.

An entire episode thats very likely to be undone?

I think that bringing Linda Lake back is stupid because she had nothing to do with what I enjoyed about 'Hydro'. And I don't know why they keep wasting episodes with backgroundstories and AUs when this may be the last season!

I just ... I don't even know what to say. I'm just so disappointed. :(
jeannev
Feb. 4th, 2009 10:29 pm (UTC)
Well, the funny thing is that as pointless as I think a "do-over" episode is, Infamous still sounds better to me then anything that comes after it. And at least its Clark-centric, and likely to have some relevancy to his future decisions.

But yeah, I'm not quite sure what the point of Linda Lake is, unless that was CW dictated because they thought she'd bring some publicity. Honestly, there are many people who could potentially expose Clark.

Edited at 2009-02-04 10:29 pm (UTC)
roxymissrose
Feb. 4th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
There has to be some reason this is happening--we had such a wonderful beginning season, Show was making me happy, damn it!!! Lois was making me happy!
jeannev
Feb. 5th, 2009 12:07 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'd like to think there's something bigger at play here. Some sort of network interference, or pressure from above, or something along those lines. Because for something that felt so put together and cohesiveness, it now seems all over the damned place. And that, to me, is usually a sign of too many indian chiefs.
tasabian
Feb. 5th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
What started as a prettty cohesive, enjoyable, Clark-centric season just seems to have flown off the rails
No kidding! It's amazing how quickly the fan-euphoria over "Legion" just dissipated....that's what two back-to-back horrors will do, I guess...

Chloe keeping Doomsday in the basement like a pet? And throwing someone down for him to tear to shreds? (and yes, I know the guy is threatening Chloe, but STILL...thats fucked up!)
I wonder if there's still some Brainiac in her - and this is why she suddenly remembers Clark's secret and wants to build up Doomsday's strength?

And worst of all, a recast, disfigured Lex? I'll never wrap my mind around that.
Of all the stupid things SV has done over years, this takes the tiara, IMO.
jeannev
Feb. 5th, 2009 02:39 pm (UTC)
I even think the euphoria of Legion was a bit tempered. I think people were already recognizing warning signs, even though there was a ton of good in that episode.

I'm not sure I can even speculate what they're doing with Chloe. I've been befuddled by her character all season.

I know how much the Lex recast hurts MR's fans. :( It sucks.
la_belle_isa
Feb. 5th, 2009 04:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this is really looking bad. I know a lot of people see those spoilers as a sign of stalling and therefore, of S9, but I see the opposite. They're really not starting anything new hence the filler episodes, and they're wrapping their already existing arcs. I have big hopes *yes, I do!* that this is the last season and that the last 3 episodes will be Clark-centered, with Tom at the helm of the last episode (and yes, I'm wide-eyed and probably delusional!).
I feel bad for the Lex fans. This is ridiculous.
jeannev
Feb. 5th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
I actually agree with you. I don't think any of this indicates a S9. But I also fear that it also means a series ender that isn't particularly satisfying. :(

I also believe that Tom will not be directing episode 18, and if his name pops up on the directors list later in the season, I think thats a big sign that the series end is near. He has gone on the record as wanting to direct the series ender.
eeyore1017
Feb. 9th, 2009 12:39 pm (UTC)
I'm right there with you on all the WTF-ness of the SV world these days. I've been out of the loop- I see that there are a couple new promo pictures and I read about Slavkin and Swimmer moving to Melrose Place. Have I missed anything else?
jeannev
Feb. 9th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
No, thats pretty much the extent of it. Of course, its really nice how Slavkin/Swimmer were so classy as to inform the fandom personally, rather then have the news come them directly. Those 2 are a bunch of real winners.

eeyore1017
Feb. 9th, 2009 03:31 pm (UTC)
I agree, some sort of statement or interview or press release or SOMETHING would have been nice. Scaredy cat idiots.
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