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Smallville Article - Legion


In todays TV Week of the NY Post, there's a article/review of Legion, by Stephen Lynch.  Its pretty long, but I think it brings up some relevant points, and also addresses why I think many of us are pleased with this season, while stll acknowledging some of its shortcomings.  So, because I love my flisties, I'm posting it for you guys.  The article contains no real spoilers, outside of a very general outline of the "Legion" episode. 

SMALLVILE GROWS UP
Clark Kent gets more "Super"

by Stephen Lynch

Fire up the Bat Signal, turn on Jimmy Olsen's watch, summon your underwater friends - comic book geeks, it's time to visit "Smallville."

I know, I know.  You've been burned before, back when the show was "Dawson's Creek" with kryptonite, when Clark Kent (Tom Welling) whined incessantly about his secret, when Lana Lang was conveniently knocked unconscious every time the Man of tell did something mildly interesting.

But in its eight (yikes!) season, Superman lives!  Kent, having finally graduated high school at 28, is doing all the things the Last Son of Krypton is famous for - working at the Daily Planet in Metropolis, flirting with Lois Lane (Erica Durance), leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

"Smallville" started growing up when Michael Rosenbaum, who played the young Lex Luthor, decided to leave the show.  Though a standout among the cast, his character had grown stale - especially since the smartest man alive still hadn't figured out the farm boy was an alien.

In last season's finale, Luthor finally connected the dots, fighting Clark as the Fortress of Solitude crumbles around them in the Arctic (this year, Lex is officially "missing").

The lack of main villian allowed the 4 new executive producers - creators Al Gough and Miles Millar left the show last year - to shake things up.

Clark's become a reporter, and hangs out with guys like Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter.  Luthor's replacement is Tess Mercer (Cassiday Freeman), a little in-joke for Superman fans, as her name is a combination of Miss Teschmacher from the original Christopher Reeve "Superman" film, and Mercy Graves, Luthor's bodyguard in the comics.  Davis Bloome (Sam Witwer) meanwhile, is Doomsday - the only character to ever kill kill Superman.


Instead of worrying about whether he can play football, or plowing the back 40, Clark is battling kryptonian super-villians such as General Zod and trying to to save Chloe Sullivan (the excellent Allison Mack), who has been possessed by the nefarious computer program, Brainiac.

In other words, nerd Christmas!

To be fair, Gough and Millar always had a reverance for the character's legacy.  They copied the design of the Fortress straight from the Richard Donner films, and casting old Superman man hands such as Reeve, Margot Kidder and Terrence Stamp (Zod in "Superman II" who here plays the voice Jor-El, Clark's father).

Brian Peterson, one of the currect executive producers, say the creators have been unfairly criticized on the Internet, following this season's success.  "They established the foundation - even in the pilot - that we're still playing off, " he says.

Still, from a Superman fan's point of view, Peterson benefits from a change of setting ("Smallville" doesn't really take place there anymore) and a hero who acts, well, a little more super.

This Thursday, the show returns from hiatus with "Legion", an episode centered on the Legion of Super-Heroes, who travel back in time from the 30th century to assist Superman.  Rather then be a standalone stunt, however, the group plays a big part in the ongoing threat from Doomsday and Chloiac.

Producers might even toss out the famous credo of "Smallville" - "no tights, no flights."

"It's a possibility," Peterson says, "we may bend that rule."

Still, don't expect a wholesale makeover.  "Once you break that rule you're in Superman territory, and that's not what the show is about.  It's about a boy deciding to become a hero."

REQUEST:  If you want to share this elsewhere, its cool, but I would prefer you link back to here as opposed to copying and pasting.   And my comments are my own, and should remain here.  Thanks! :)


My thoughts :

One of the things I liked about this article is that its very clear that the author is a longtime SV viewer.  Which puts to rest that assertion that fans of this season are more newbies, or not followers of the show.  As a longtime viewer myself, I appreciate reading the thoughts of a reviewer who has been in it for the long haul, and has felt a lot of the frustrations I've felt.

Though there are a few wince inducing comments for this Clark fan, he's not really wrong.  Clark, as a character, has very often been left in a holding pattern, and has dwelled on things that he should've progressed past further in my opinion.  And I think thats one of the really big appeals of this season for me.  I've waited so long for Clark to make this sort of progress, there's just no way in hell I can't be grateful for it when it comes.  I would've loved a slower progression into some aspects, but those were mistakes made on the show IN THE PAST.  Why compound them by continuing them? 

And as tough as this is to say, I also agree with him about Lex.  MR was tremendous in the role.  There can be no arguement about that.  But I do believe that Lex was a floundering character, much like Clark.  Did he have to be?  No, of course not.  

I firmly believed that SV needed some drastic changes in order to be viable in S8.  I think many of the changes have been for the better, especially in regards to Clark.  Have all of the changes been for the better?  No.  Chimmy is a drag, for instance. 

To me, its impossible to fault longtime fans of this show for wanting to see Clark take a definitive step towards becoming Superman.  The show NEEDED to evolve.  Clark NEEDED to progress.  And the show is ABOUT CLARK!  And that also means that things, and people,  around him need to evolve and progress as well. 

I'm going to have to disagree with Peterson in a big way when he says that AlMiles are criticized unfairly on the Internet.  I'm not sure they are criticized enough.  PS3 are getting to pay off what they started?  Well, what was holding AlMiles back from providing the start of the pay-off themselves?  Maybe they had a reverance for the character's legacy, but they certainly seemed to have a healthy indifference to the character himself on their show (and their indifference towards their lead actor was even more obivous).  I very much like that the author of this article fairly reports Peterson's words, but includes the "Still..." part.  In reality, the path we've seen Clark take this year is that one he should've started on last year, thereby allowing the evolution to play out a bit more slowly, and with more satisfaction for all SV fans.   Their stall allows PS3 to benefit from being the ones to make the changes, but also handicaps their efforts due to time constraints.

Comments

( 32 comments )
jude_judith82
Jan. 11th, 2009 07:43 pm (UTC)
Great article. IMO a lot of people watching this season have been people who watched the show in the past and maybe quit but started hearing buzz about SV again. I hope they continue with the momentum and no I agree Gough and Millar have not been unfairly criticized LOL please. They've said it with their own words they really did not care about Clark, mocked Tom, and had some really weird obsession with Lana. I've said this before but as much as I miss Rosenbaum I think he leaving this season really has allowed the character of Clark to flourish. Clark felt handicapped in a way and unfortunately I do think the character of Lex works in small doses. Reading comics I can tell you that Lex is obsessed w/ Superman not the other way around and Lex though he is is nemesis really doesn't work in every single issue. Superman is bigger than that and has a lot more going on. Who knows? I'm hopeful not that I'm still not scared about Lana's return or anything. And another thing Clark really needs to fly already LOL.
jeannev
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm really not getting the poor AlMiles stuff. They made their choices, picked their favs, and allowed the story to meander the way it did. No sympathy for the criticism.

I think Lex was written into a corner, unfortunately. He was very isolated as a character, and they never seemed to find a way to show what he was doing, or why in the last few seasons. In a lot of ways, his character actually would've been served better by a longer, drawn out Lexana relationship/marriage. Though I shudder when I type that.

I don't mind the not flying, I just wish they would allow Clark to discuss it with someone.
jude_judith82
Jan. 11th, 2009 09:26 pm (UTC)
I wish they'd let Clark discuss anything that he's thinking lol.
shardsofblu
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:04 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing this Valerie, much appreciated! :D And YAY for SV promotion!

All this talk about stalling and finally making a definitive move for some reason reminds me of a Moonlighting rant discussion I had the other day i.e. it's over when a pairing finally gets together after years on dancing around. I get the same impression a lot from SV's TPTB -- to them, story's over once Clark gets into full on super mode. When that shouldn't be the case at all, it simply smacks of lazy writing.
jeannev
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:18 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. I figured it was an article that a lot of people wouldn't see.

Oh, don't even get me started on the Moonlighting thing. Its so damned inaccurate! I wonder if people even watched that show. The getting together is NOT what ruined that show. Its how they botched it after that, and how Cybill Sherpard's pregnancy threw a wrench into things, and they wrote this horrible storyline incorporating the pregnancy. This mental handicap that says you have to string couples along and not let them get together is moronic to me.
shardsofblu
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:31 pm (UTC)
*snort*

I think I don't even have to bring up Moonlighting, the Lois & Clark show itself was a prime example of blaming a show simply on the fact the characters finally stopped dancing around and got together. The getting together was definitely not what ruined it, but the whole retarded frog clone storyline. Ugh. I'm still traumatized just thinking about it.
canadabear
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:05 pm (UTC)
*raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambles*
To me, its impossible to fault longtime fans of this show for wanting to see Clark take a definitive step towards becoming Superman.

I am of mixed opinion on this. On one hand, I can absolutely understand wanting to see some character evolution from a series that's been on the air for 8 years. On the other hand, and this is I think more the fault of the show continuing as long as it has, I don't know that whining about someone as young as Clark still is having not yet decided to devote himself to saving/protecting the entire world is warranted.

We as fans want to see it because we know it happens eventually and we've put in 8 years of our time expecting to see it at some point. From a character perspective, Clark has no reason and/or obligation as yet to decide to become a costumed superhero. Legion may change that (and I hope it does) since I assume he'll be finding out that that's exactly what he becomes and he'll have to decide if that's the road he really wants to go down. But I take some exception to people complaining about his wanting to play football in previous seasons, or being concerned about the farm, because at the age is (or was at), why shouldn't he be doing those things?

Being 8 years in was never the initial plan. AlMiles wanted to show him in high school, getting used to his powers and struggling with trying to fit in and do normal things, too. And they did that. But it has gotten to the point now where the expected end is, well, expected, and while the stall makes some sense to me from a character aspect, it's definitely frustrating for fans who just want him to "get there already" even if he's not really (in my humble opinion) ready for it, which is why it's coming off, to some, as a lightswitch.

Should they have started him on this path sooner? Probably. But such is the life of a television show, when you don't know when you're really done. Would it really have been any better, in retrospect, if they had started this in S7, now knowing that S9 is a distinct possibility? I have no doubt that there will be superhero!Clark payoff, but it isn't going to happen until the series is over. Until then, whenever that is, the stall will continue.
jeannev
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
Re: *raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambles*
I don't know that whining about someone as young as Clark still is having not yet decided to devote himself to saving/protecting the entire world is warranted.

I get where you're coming from, but I think for me, there's a difference between Clark still finding his way, and Clark going around in circles. There's a difference between baby steps forward, and hardly any movement at all. I guess, bottom line, I think there's a difference between "stall" and "slow and steady". SV was stuck on the former, and rarely the latter.

From a character perspective, Clark has no reason and/or obligation as yet to decide to become a costumed superhero.

I've always defended Clark's decisions about his life, and I detest when other characters tells him what to do, or "urge him on" (isn't that the euphemism?). But at the same time, I do think we've gone past the point of Clark being able to recognize that he could serve a greater purpose. And the costume thing actually first reared its head in S5, with Vengeance. But evenso, I think the costume thing is something thats very reasonable to develop slowly. Its clear Clark isn't really embracing the costume thing yet. I'm OK with that.

I would never complain about Clark wanting to play football, or have a normal senior year. But we are several years out of that now. And one of the worst things AlMiles did with Clark is that they didn't really have him express any aspirations for anything in particular, save for Lana. Again, I see a difference between finding your way, and just sort of coasting.

I think AlMiles really should've been savvy enough to know that they were getting on in years with the show, and it wasn't going to last forever. I think they missed the turn they really needed to take in S7.

Would it really have been any better, in retrospect, if they had started this in S7, now knowing that S9 is a distinct possibility?

For me? Yes. Because, as you said, there definitely could've been more to show Clark being "ready", and making some of these life altering decisions.
canadabear
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
Re: *raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambles*
I think there's a difference between "stall" and "slow and steady". SV was stuck on the former, and rarely the latter.

Oh, definitely. I suppose I've just accepted that that's the case, so it doesn't bother me as much.

But at the same time, I do think we've gone past the point of Clark being able to recognize that he could serve a greater purpose.

I think he has realized that. I think it's now more him coming to terms with the idea that he should, not that he can, which is an entirely different struggle on its own.

For me? Yes. Because, as you said, there definitely could've been more to show Clark being "ready", and making some of these life altering decisions.

I guess for me, the bottom line is they'd still be stalling. Having Clark at the DP and running out to save people in public in S7 would have been awesome, but again, they're not going to do the real payoff until the series is done, so we'd still be faced with an S8 and most of S9 in full on stall mode, and probably tons of loss of power gags and random kryptonite, because they can't have him progress too far until they know they're gearing up to the series finale.

I think what is really comes down to, which I think both you and I agree on, is that the show has just gone on too long for the original concept, and TPTB either couldn't or wouldn't alter that concept to suit a longer lasting series.
carolandtom
Jan. 11th, 2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
Thanks for sharing the article here, Valerie. And great comments, as usual. :)
jeannev
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
You're welcome Carol. Its always nice to have some new stuff to discuss.
serenography
Jan. 11th, 2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
Really interesting article, Val. Thanks for sharing it.

Even when I don't fully agree, I do have a lot more respect for an article about the show when I can sense that the writer has actually watched more than an episode or two.

I agree with a lot of this article though, if only because he really hits on the positive change of direction the show has taken. I'm not in the same place with SV as I once was, but there's no denying that after 8 seasons it very much needed some new blood and an overhaul of the usual formula.

I think they've done an admirable job with moving Clark along at a satisfying and entertaining pace for his character this season.

Granted, I look forward to seeing Tom on TV every week, but I'm also truly excited to see what Clark is going to do each and every week still.

I don't bust on the Goughlar as much as a lot of people, but I am glad that they moved on. I think the scope of the show needed a lot more than they were able to give after more than a few seasons.
jeannev
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:37 pm (UTC)
I think for me - and I know I'm not going to express this well - the show had a time for everything. It was always supposed to be a journey. So, there was a time for high school, a time for immaturity and awkwardness, a time for first love, and so on, and so forth. I think where the show faltered was that it felt like it stopped evolving , and kept going back to issues best left in earlier seasons. At least for me.

So, to see Clark take a really definitive positive, forward step is a thrill for me. Because really, its that time for the show. Its past that time.

In regards to the Goughlar, I think they just stopped evolving with the show. They seemed really hung up on original concepts and ideas, and seemed unable to see beyond that. Most specifically in regards to Clark. So, its like they just stopped featuring him, hence we got Smallville, guest starring Clark Kent.

Anyway, that was all very ramble-ly. LOL

I understand that certain parts of the journey will be more entertaining to certain fans. I really do get that. But I do believe the show needed to evolve to be what it was supposed to be.
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jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:04 am (UTC)
A more accurate statement would be that they had a reverence for the Richard Donner films, not the character's legacy.

I would say thats a fair assessment. I don't see any reverance for the comics necessarily.

I'm not even sure its fair to say they had any reverance for the character of Clark Kent, considering some of the things they wrote for him.

But, yes, they sure did like their stunt casting.

Like you, I believe other writers were far more instrumental in preserving the legacy of Clark Kent/Superman, and knowing the history.

I do think AlMiles are talented script writers. I just don't believe, judging by SV, that they are great showrunners.
bradygirl_12
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
I've had love/hate feelings for SV after the early seasons. It's always irritated me that the 'no cape, no costume' rule was in there, no matter WHO put it in. It's like they were subliminally saying that it's ridiculous to be wearing such a costume to fight for Truth, Justice, and you know. ;)

It was an attitude to me. I get that Clark had to be shown as uncertain and even not thrilled with the idea of a superhero career. Once he embarks on it, he won't have control of his life anymore. There will always be a mission, someone to save, etc.

SV took the concept of Smallville-as-haven and made it the BEM of the week, which, of course, they did because they needed to show Clark's powers and menaces every week, and this was convenient, but it also made the town not the place that nurtured the future Superman but a place where weirdness reigned. The whole concept of Smallville was to give Clark normalcy to begin with, but I understand the reasoning behind it, as I said.

It didn't help that due to legalese, you couldn't have Bruce Wayne show up and no mention of Diana, two of Clark's closest friends in the future. I adore Ollie, but there's a reason the other two are part of the DC Trinity with Superman.

As they mishandled Clark, they mishandled Lex. I never bought Lex turning evil or told he was evil from the beginning. MR's nuanced portrayal left me with the feeling that Lex was insane from his meteor infection because this 'evilness' just didn't click with me, not with the Lex we saw of the early seasons.

The Clex, whether in the slash sense or not, was supposed to be this show's centerpiece but got lost in the Lana infatuation. Lois fares little better now. Chloe was a fun character in the beginning but has annoyed me lately, though Chloiac rocks! ;)

I do enjoy this show, despite what it sounds like. ;) I would just drop it if I didn't. I'm always absorbed by what's going on, even if I'm screaming epithets at the screen. ;)

I do think that they show will be in a stall mode of some sort as they won't allow Clark to don the tights until the show ends, and by now, well, we've seen this dance of uncertainty before. The only thing I will say is that I can buy him still not in the suit though it would make more sense during Met U. days as in comicsverse instead of at the DP where he's going to be exposed if he keeps running around without any sort of disguise.

And I usually don't ramble on like this, Jeannev, but your post was great and I needed to vent! :)
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:09 am (UTC)
Your whole post was awesome. Ramble away!

The Clex, whether in the slash sense or not, was supposed to be this show's centerpiece but got lost in the Lana infatuation.

I agree with this so much. I think the Clex was mishandled from very early on, and the fact that it was still so great is a testament to the actors chemistry and ability.

I've never really understood the aversion to college demonstrated on this show. I don't agree with the "its boring" stuff. It would've been a really, really effective way of slowing down the journey, and progressing the characters at a believable rate.

You can always vent here. :)
eeyore1017
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:43 pm (UTC)
Thanks for transcribing the article, Val!

I pretty much agree with everything you said- big surprise! The comment about CK graduating high school at 28 bothered me along with a few other things like you said. I'm glad that SV got the publicity though!

ETA: I need to fix this icon!

Edited at 2009-01-11 10:44 pm (UTC)
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:10 am (UTC)
I was OK with the "28" comment, because really, thats just about the age TW was. Although I never had a problem suspending my disbelief, I can understand why others may have raised an eyebrow.
tariel22
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:06 pm (UTC)
That's an interesting article. Thanks so much for taking the time to transcribe it for all of us! I do appreciate when a writer actually knows the show, because I think it's pretty rare with Smallville, and it's usually glaringly apparent when they have no idea what they're talking about. I have a real problem with critics who bash the show when they obviously haven't watched.

That's an interesting point about Lex. I've spent the season thinking PS3 would have done awesome things with Lex, too, but maybe not. Maybe he needed to go to give them a catalyst for true change. I think Michael felt it was the right thing for the character as well as for him personally. I really wish they would leave Lex out of the current season, I don't like the Fake!Lex stuff.

You know I couldn't agree with you more about AlMiles. While I give them credit for creating the show, and choosing the cast, and writing some wonderful episodes, I hold them wholly responsible for how the show floundered to a great extent in S6 and S7. And of course they were idiots for not valuing either their main character or their star. I'm certainly not ready to call PS3 the Saviors of Smallville yet, but I am beyond happy AlMiles are gone (more Al than Miles, to be completely honest, but maybe that's just because he fueled the fire of my rage by being the more vocal of the two). And I would bet money that Tom is, too.
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:15 am (UTC)
There's no doubt in my mind that this guy is a longtime viewer, and yes, I do think that adds weight to a review of the show.

I wanted Lex to be a relevant part of the season, but I wanted it to go no further then people mentioning him, or maybe a cryptic email. I HATE the body double stuff. It feels really disrespectful to me. As do upcoming spoilers for Power.

I think AlMiles started from the right place. I think they got lost somewhere along the way. Maybe because they were more interested in characters other then their main one. Maybe due to an obsession with a certain leading lady. Maybe it was ego. I'm not sure what it was. But I can't look at S6 & S7, and even the end of S5, and not find fault with their decisions.

I do think PS3 may have some of the same bad habits. But where I do give them credit is that they are clearly not afraid to make a change. We'll see if they can sustain that, or if they fall into old familiar habits very soon, I suspect.
tariel22
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:35 am (UTC)
I should have said leave Lex out of S8 physically. I like Tess's devotion to him, and the fascination with Clark that inspires, well enough, but let him remain well and truly absent as long as Michael is absent as well. And somehow it bothers me that they didn't tell Michael about their plans to use a body double. I know he's off the show, but it still seems disrespectful not only to do it, but to keep him in the dark about it.

The thing about PS3 is that all those great episodes we saw were Lana free. After the taste we got in Bride, I'm worried that she has as much of a detrimental effect on them as she does on Clark. I'm nervous about these next four episodes. My best hope is that I'll be able to put them behind me once they're over, and that Clark will return to his former awesomeness. I used to be optimistic about how PS3 would handle Lana's departure from the show, but now I'm feeling quite the opposite. We'll know for sure soon enough, I guess.
tasabian
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks for posting the article. Interesting reading.

Brian Peterson, one of the currect executive producers, say the creators have been unfairly criticized on the Internet, following this season's success. "They established the foundation - even in the pilot - that we're still playing off, " he says.
Heh. That's not Peterson being gracious - that's Peterson sneaking a diss through the back door. It's the equivalent of saying "everyone says your hair looks really bad, but I think it looks great!"

I don't think Michael made a mistake by leaving. However, I think they could have had an awesome season of Lex knowing the secret and playing cat and mouse with Clark, particularly if Lex was running the Planet.

Here are some of the faults I think PS3 share with Al/Miles:
- trying to beat relationships into viewers' heads with a hammer. (See "Committed", "Instinct" and likely "Hex" as well.)
- not trusting organic chemistry between the actors. (See above.)
- fondness for Lana-as-Eternal victim.
- excessive fondness for love triangles. (I don't enjoy pining!Lois. Can we have one female character that doesn't pine?)
- creating unnecessary 'ships. IMO, Tess/Ollie does no favours to either character and wastes show time.

Here is a fault that it original to PS3:
- making use of a Lex plot-line without having MR. STOP IT.

Here are the aspects I think have improved under PS3:
- Clark is dressing and acting like a grown-up. This is the single best change they've made. Allison & Erica both seem to be enjoying their plot-lines this year.
- More continuity as regards minor characters: ie, the return of Dr. Grohl, Jimmy's gay friend.
- Much less angst and somewhat more (but still not enough) action.

I wonder if the back half of the season will show signs of stalling?
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:20 am (UTC)
LOL, I love your interpretation that Peterson is sneaking in a back door dig. It makes me happier. :P

I honestly believe that Lex could've been a viable part of this show and cast to the very end....with different writers, and a different show mindset.

I totally agree with you on some of the weaknesses PS3 share with AlMiles, but I will cut them a bit of slack with the heavy-handedness. I think that partly comes from the fear of not having a lot of time to move the story forward, and so they are taking a few shortcuts.

I do believe that the best thing PS3 have done this year is allow Clark to grow up, and allow Tom to play him that way. Does anyone truly believe that we'd be seeing this sort of Clark under AlMiles? Because I really can't even imagine it.

As for the back half of S8? Based on spoilers? I think, unfortunately, yes. Very unfortunately yes.
la_belle_isa
Jan. 11th, 2009 11:49 pm (UTC)
Interesting piece. Thanks for bringing it! Before I read the comments, I wanted to ask if I can post a link to this entry on DTTW or do you prefer to do it yourself?
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 01:21 am (UTC)
No, its fine, post a link. I'd feel like I was tooting my own horn. LOL

And you're welcome. Fast typing comes in handy.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 12th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
Wonderful article posted here. The criticism of AlMiles is justified because the last few seasons saw them holding on to things related to Lana at the expense of the main story, which is Clark's journey towards his destiny. I can see the No Tights rule staying, but the No Flights rule must be lifted. I want Clark to fly in this season. The changes have been for the better.
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 05:32 pm (UTC)
I definitely think the criticism of AlMiles is warranted. They made some truly terrible decisions.

I think PS3 are going to have to address the flight issue eventually.
goodvibe
Jan. 12th, 2009 06:08 pm (UTC)
//Though there are a few wince inducing comments for this Clark fan, he's not really wrong. Clark, as a character, has very often been left in a holding pattern, and has dwelled on things that he should've progressed past further in my opinion. And I think thats one of the really big appeals of this season for me. I've waited so long for Clark to make this sort of progress, there's just no way in hell I can't be grateful for it when it comes. I would've loved a slower progression into some aspects, but those were mistakes made on the show IN THE PAST. Why compound them by continuing them?//

::nods::

//I firmly believed that SV needed some drastic changes in order to be viable in S8. I think many of the changes have been for the better, especially in regards to Clark. Have all of the changes been for the better? No. Chimmy is a drag, for instance.//

The show ::had:: to rejuvenate itself. If not now, then when?

Thanks so much for sharing the article. I'm very pleased about this recognition, and the article in general, though I don't agree when the writer says AlMiles always had a reverance for Clark/Supes legacy. Because I'd probably wager the exact opposite, actually.

//Which puts to rest that assertion that fans of this season are more newbies, or not followers of the show.//

Why would that be the case at all though? If anything aren't we only left with the really core audience now anyways---
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 09:04 pm (UTC)
If not now, then when?

Exactly. Time was a commodity they really didn't have, and whose fault is that? AlMiles. Now, I'm not suggesting that they couldn't have used their time more wisely. But clearly time is of the essence.

Why would that be the case at all though? If anything aren't we only left with the really core audience now anyways---

Oh, you know, its the usual stuff. If we were really longtime viewers, we'd only be interested in Clark, Lex, Lana and Chloe, and there's no way we could like the changes. You know the drill.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 12th, 2009 08:41 pm (UTC)
Notice that none of the Lana episodes are written by Peterson and Souders since she's their favorite character. It looks like the other writers, including Slavkin and Swimmer, will write the end of Lana and Clana. I doubt Peterson and Souders would do that.

Also, Peterson's statements regarding the flight issue seems to contrast Swimmer's statement of Clark being in full control of his powers.

If Clark can be with Lois working at the Daily Planet without wearing the suit, why don't they have him fly without the suit much like Kara did last season? Why withhold that particular power from Clark? We need a story reason, not real world reasons.

I understand the 7th season companion revealed that Clark flying would be budget constraints and yet Kara flew on a regular basis in comparison.
jeannev
Jan. 12th, 2009 09:07 pm (UTC)
THANK GOD that none of the Lana eps are written by Souders/Peterson, though I think we'll still see their hand in it.

I think the budget thing is an excuse with Clark and flying, though its true that having Clark fly could be a lot more expensive if only because there is so much Clark screentime, and they'd use the effect a lot more.
littlehollyleaf
Jan. 19th, 2009 12:57 pm (UTC)
An interesting article, thanks for sharing :)

Although I have to say, I think Clark should have started the progression/development being discussed here way back in S05, at least, if not in S04. Having him only just begin stepping up in S08 and not brilliantly IMO) is not enough to make the show good again for me, it's already a lost cause :p

But it is interesting to see why more tolerant fans are more thumbs up this season and, much as I LOVE Lex, I do get what the writer means about him needing to leave the show. Both him and Clark had stagnated so much if the show wanted to keep going at all one of them had to leave, and obv it couldn't be Superman! Course, if it'd been me I just wouldn't have continued the show... :p
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