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Thoughts on Toxic


I was going to title this post "Toxic Thoughts", but then I figured that didn't sound right.

Boy, is it just me, or has the response to this episode been pretty anemic?  I know I found myself really struggling with what to say.  I was going to wait to comment until I put up the screentime totals, but I haven't been able to find a good download of the episode yet, so I can't say when I'll have that ready.  So, here are just a few random thoughts...

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Its probably not a huge secret that I'm pretty ambivalent about the Oliver character.  I like JH just fine, though he doesn't really rattle my chains or anything.  But I've actually been pretty resentful of the way they've used the Oliver character on SV so far.  And I was not in favor of him becoming a regular.  Now, I've come around a bit to him, and I actually liked him in Odyssey, and I was doing my best to keep an open mind.  Hearing about how they were going to use Oliver in relation to Clark, I had some hope that they had learned from some of their previous mistakes in that dynamic, and would be writing their interaction better this year.  Because really, Tom and Justin have some great chemistry.  But, alas, I think the end of this episode really set me back about 20 paces with Oliver.

Now, don't get me wrong, because I really had no problem at all with Oliver being mad that Clark didn't tell him about his parents death, and how Lionel was very likely involved.  I totally got his anger about that.  But instead of letting their argument be about that, we once again got another one of Oliver's condescending bullshit lectures, where he acts like he's got some right to tell Clark how to live his life, or use his abilities...not to mention the fact that he doesn't really know that much about Clark, or what he's faced, so he's really talking out of his ass.  Frankly, if Clark isn't ready to take a more proactively heroic role (and we've seen this season that he actually is), then thats Clark's business, his right, his concern, and Oliver can shut his yap.  Oliver made decisions for his own life, and made his own choices based on his experiances.  Why does he not believe that Clark is entitled to that same sort of life choice, or epiphany?

Ugh!

latxcvi made some awesome points in her journal about how the most annoying part is that rants like the one Oliver went on make it seem like he has no respect for Clark.  She makes the comparison of Power!Lana in Wrath, and I think its an awesome analogy.  So, go over there and read what she said, because she put it far more eloquently than I could.

But even putting that aside right now, and putting aside the fact that I didn't have a burning desire to delve into Oliver's origins, I just didn't think the story was executed very well.  Partly because it was rushed (did anything about the episode make it seem like 2 years had passed?), and partly because they shoehorned Tess into it. 

Speaking of Tess, I had no interest in anything Tess/Ollie related, but in any scene that wasn't about that?  I thought she was actually pretty interesting this episode.  Well, more interesting anyway.  I had already figured that she was Mercy, so no big Squee moment for me on that one.  But I liked the catty scene with Lois, I liked her creepy flirtation with Clark, I liked her kicking some ass, and I liked how she killed the bad guy.  But, ya know, Oliver and Tess?  *yawn*

And I'm not sure I thought the rest of the episode was well executed either.  I don't know, I had thought Caroline Dries was a pretty talented writer when she first came along, but now she's probably the name I dread most on the credits.  The dialogue in this episode was pretty awful all around. 

While Clark did save Oliver, and Tess, and he looked gorgeous in his suit, and he was being proactive, I felt like they fell back into some old, bad habits.  I really disliked the scene where Clark is arguing that Oliver should go to the hospital, and Chloe is arguing that they should trust Oliver and do what he wants.  Because really?  I would've thought reversing those positions for those characters made a hell of a lot more sense.  Clark, because of who he is, would certainly understand wanting to stay away from hospitals.  And I found Chloe's speech about how she's worked side-by-side with Oliver to ring a bit hollow.  At least compared to Clark.  I don't know, it just felt like Clark was cast into the less intelligent position there so Chloe could be the words of wisdom.  And Blech, because that was really a dynamic that didn't work for me last season at all.

The scenes where Chloe displayed her super intelligence, and Clark showed concern played better. 

I'm still not sure what the Chlark interaction at the party was supposed to mean.  Is Chloe jealous of the time Clark is spending with Lois?  Is she missing her former life?  And whats with the insinuation that Clark is cutting Tess slack because she's pretty?  Does that sound like Clark to anyone?

BTW, whoever is doing some of the eye makeup on this show needs to be fired.  Whats with the racoon eyes?  Not attractive.

SW continues to do a nice job with Davis.  I still  think the Chloe/Davis thing is a bit forced, but the chemistry is there between SW & AM, so that helps.

I was never much of a Lois/Oliver fan, so those scenes didn't do much for me.  They were OK, and I thought Erica did a good job with them.  I also liked her resolve that Ollie wouldn't die.

Boy, it would be nice to get a Chloe/Lois scene where they actually seemed to have a connection, and seemed like they liked each other. 

The Clark/Lois stuff was OK, but I wasn't awfully fond of the dialogue in the DP scene, or the way it was directed.  It felt awkward.  But I sure would have loved to see Clark on that kitten story. :)

And I should be totally bothered by the coming attractions for next week, since it hits upon a pet peeve of mine, but I can't seem to get there because....HOT!!!!  Its been a stressful, difficult week, and I think my brain is ready to embrace the shallow.


 

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canadabear
Oct. 4th, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
I'm saving my commentary until I can watch it again tomorrow on our other station, since I missed the first 10 minutes yesterday, and I think this is one I need to see again anyway.

And I should be totally bothered by the coming attractions for next week, since it hits upon a pet peeve of mine, but I can't seem to get there because....HOT!!!!

Ahahahaha. I'm so right there with you. >.>
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jeannev
Oct. 4th, 2008 03:35 pm (UTC)
You are absolutely right with the inconsistencies. Chloe was suffering from them in this episode, but every character has had this problem at one time or another, and I think it has to go back to the writing. Quite frankly, do Clark, Chloe or Lois really know Oliver better then anyone, or even all that well? Not really. They see him sporadically. Clark, or even Chloe, may have some knowledge of what he's been doing, Lois has little.

I was wondering if maybe AA had another commitment early in the season, which is why we saw him for less then 10 minutes in Odyssey, but not since then. I don't like the Chimmy, but its even odder to not have any Jimmy/Chloe scenes at all.

SV has had a problem these last 2 years keeping Clark as the central, and most important, character. Its like they do know it, and he is on more then the others, but the writing doesn't really seem to support it. Its hard to describe, but too many people have noticed for me to think its just my issue.
jude_judith82
Oct. 4th, 2008 05:49 pm (UTC)
I know I found myself really struggling with what to say.

You're not the only one which is why I still haven't posted anything. I have an idea of what I'm going to post but who knows. I'm pretty sure this will be a very short post for me.
jeannev
Oct. 4th, 2008 11:52 pm (UTC)
Strangely enough, I thought it was going to be a short review from me, and I ended up rambling on. LOL
tariel22
Oct. 4th, 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
I, too, struggled with writing a review for this one. It felt like a throwback to last season in a lot of ways, and it made me wonder if Caroline Dries got the memo about the new direction for the show this season. What happened to the Oliver we saw in Odyssey, who believed so completely in Clark, was devastated to have betrayed him under the influence of the Moira serum, and acknowledged his heroism during that last meeting before the Justice Leaguers went their separate ways? Not to mention letting him wear his clothes after they had sex escaped Russia on Ollie's private plane. :)

To me Oliver comes off as the poor little rich kid, who has a tendency to fall back into his self-indulgent, petulant ways whenever he's hurt, upset, or thwarted. It's not an attractive quality, and I even doubt that it's intentional on the part of the writers, but it actually works for me.

I thought Chloe seemed jealous of Lois, both personally and professionally. That line about correcting Clark's typos didn't really jive with last week's episode, where Clark asked Chloe to come back to the DP and she said she wasn't interested. If she misses it, she can have it back, right?

That scene where Clark flipped out about taking Oliver to the hospital was kind of bizarre. Watching it, I said to myself, why is he yelling? Quite frankly, I think he came off a little like a hysterical girlfriend who is about to get the cliche slap across the face to calm her down. It seemed OOC to me.

I did enjoy how Clark lost various articles of clothing during the evening. First he loosened his tie and unbuttoned the top button of his shirt, then he got rid of his suit coat and rolled up his shirt sleeves, and finally, after Tess's embarrassing comment, he lost the tie. I was more fascinated by Clark's progressively more disheveled appearance than I was by most of the plot points. :)

IDK about next week. Either it's all going to be a big tease (all interruptus and no coitus), or it's going to be creepy and coerced. I wish they would just let Clark have an honest attraction to someone and go for it, or just stay away from chicks altogether.
eeyore1017
Oct. 4th, 2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
Not to mention letting him wear his clothes after they had sex escaped Russia on Ollie's private plane. :)
Hee! Maybe that will be in the deleted scenes?

That scene where Clark flipped out about taking Oliver to the hospital was kind of bizarre. Watching it, I said to myself, why is he yelling?
I think that scene might be the one time where I would say something negative about Tom's acting. That delivery seemed to come from the school of, "the louder I say my lines, the more emotion I'm showing." Maybe that was what the writer and director asked for though?

I did enjoy how Clark lost various articles of clothing during the evening.
I can't believe I didn't notice this! I've already watched the episode three times, too.

IDK about next week.
I understand people's dislike for seeing a mind-controlled Clark, I guess I just can't get past the Tom hotness though. :-)
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goodvibe
Oct. 4th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
::joins you in the discontent::

I feel like I've gone off from the high that this season was so far producing. To be honest, that final Clark/Ollie scene? Just did my head in, badly. I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic about the rest of the season, on the whole, but eps like these do.not. inspire much faith from me.


//Its probably not a huge secret that I'm pretty ambivalent about the Oliver character. I like JH just fine, though he doesn't really rattle my chains or anything. But I've actually been pretty resentful of the way they've used the Oliver character on SV so far. And I was not in favor of him becoming a regular. Now, I've come around a bit to him, and I actually liked him in Odyssey, and I was doing my best to keep an open mind. Hearing about how they were going to use Oliver in relation to Clark, I had some hope that they had learned from some of their previous mistakes in that dynamic, and would be writing their interaction better this year. Because really, Tom and Justin have some great chemistry. But, alas, I think the end of this episode really set me back about 20 paces with Oliver.//

Could not have said it better. Very disappointing how the dynamic just took such a hit in this ep.
jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:01 am (UTC)
SV has had a bad track record with episode #3 for the last 3 seasons. Wither, Fierce and now Toxic. Wonder what thats about.

I'm hoping that now that they've got this episode out of the way, they can deliver on some of the Oliver/Clark interaction they promised in previews of the season. Because really, I'd really like this to be the last "you are so useless and never do anything" speech from Oliver to Clark. Ever!
carolandtom
Oct. 4th, 2008 07:21 pm (UTC)
Great review, as usual. We definitely are on the same page in regard to Oliver, the Clark/Oliver dynamic and the character interactions that we like to see and the ones that bore or annoy us.

As for the episode... I didn't care about most of it. That is all I've got to say.
jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:03 am (UTC)
I'm never surprised that we're on the same page Carol. :)

This just wasn't the episode I wanted to see to keep up the S8 momentum. I feel like we're going to have to get that started again. Hopefully this was just a little bump, and not a huge pothole.
canneverbe
Oct. 4th, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC)
I loved your thoughts!
I use to think Chloe was alright. But this season, I can't stand seeing a Chloe scene anymore. I now cringe when I notice she is on my screen and begin hoping that she doesn't annoy me. The hope is 90% futile.

I love Oliver. But like you, when he starts a Wrath!Lana rants to Clark begins I want to slap him. The fact that the "you do nothing" lecture was given after finding out Clark withheld him info about his parent's death has me pardon his Hero BS this time. I expect the two's dynamic better resolve, and if he pulls that kind tirade again I won't be a happy fan.

The Chloe/Lois disappoints me. Massively. What the heck happened?

I, too, found the Clois DP scene awkward when it shouldn't have been. It's strange that there quite a few awkward played out scenes this season. IDK who to blame for it either.

Oh, in the future, I'd really would appreciate that Tess never flirt, etc with Clark.
jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)
Chloe used to be my favorite female character, by far. But I haven't been happy with the way they've developed her over the last year, and I didn't like the way they wrote the Chlark dynamic. And I used to love their friendship. And I'm not a big fan of superpowered Chloe, or infected by Brainiac Chloe, or Jimmy-loving Chloe. I'm not sure what happened, but the train seemed to be going off the road before this season, so I don't buy into the idea that this is all for Lois' sake.

See, I would've been OK with Oliver going off on Clark for keeping the details of his parents death a secret. I get him being mad about that. But why go into the "you're scared of everything" crap, when just 2 weeks ago we had a powerless Clark willing to go right into a Luthorcorp facility to rescue Chloe? Obviously he's not a coward. It wasn't so much Oliver being mad, it was the subject they allowed him to move onto.

I have no clue why the Chlo/Lo is written so badly. But aside from the Chlo/Lo in S4 and S5, has this show ever done a decent job of writing female friendship? I think not.

I'm not sure you're going to get your wish about Tess, but I don't think they're going to go anywhere with it.
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wrighty555
Oct. 4th, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)
I liked the episode a lot. I think that last scene was just a guy who was drinking lashing out at a friend that kept a REALLY BIG FUCKING SECRET from him. I got the impression that he got really pissed because he thought that he would kill Lionel if Clark told him.

I love Clark, he's my favorite character, but let's be honest. He reacts the same way when he finds out that people have kept something from him. Yeah, Ollie lectured him a bit to much....but, if you pay attention to the spoilers, I think it was meant to foreshadow what is coming for Clark this year.

And, up until this year his complaints about Clark not being proactive were pretty correct. One of the things that pissed me off about the writers was how much they stalled his growth.
jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:12 am (UTC)
See, like I said above, if Oliver wants to go off on Clark for keeping the secret about his parents, I get that. Go for it. But to have him devolve into yet another "you suck, you do nothing, you're a coward" speeches is just annoying as all hell, and really out of place this season.

And, up until this year his complaints about Clark not being proactive were pretty correct. One of the things that pissed me off about the writers was how much they stalled his growth.

Me too. But to stall the character the way they did, then write other characters getting in his face and putting him down for being that way is just aggravating, and makes me think these writers hate Clark.
eeyore1017
Oct. 4th, 2008 10:39 pm (UTC)
So for this episode we agreed on some things and not on others (which is allowed). :-)

I really disliked the scene where Clark is arguing that Oliver should go to the hospital, and Chloe is arguing that they should trust Oliver and do what he wants. Because really? I would've thought reversing those positions for those characters made a hell of a lot more sense.
I agree with you on this. And Chloe was being too much of a know-it-all for me.

I'm still not sure what the Chlark interaction at the party was supposed to mean
I was confused as well. When Chloe made the comment about "circling typos," maybe it's the kind of thing where she doesn't want to be at the DP anymore, but she doesn't like the idea of someone else taking her place either. Like when you're little and you outgrow something and don't want it anymore, but you don't want your kid sister to have it either- just because. :-)

Whats with the racoon eyes?
I don't usually notice make-up, but I definitely noticed all of the dark eye make-up on Chloe and I didn't like it.

I also agree that it would be nice to see a scene with Chloe and Lois where they weren't snapping at each other and trying to play the "Who knows Oliver better?" game. If they were guys, I think that would be called a pissing contest.

I didn't like that Lois cut Clark off when he brought up Lana- it's not like he's been saying her name non-stop this season.

I know that you are not a fan of making Instinct a Hypnotic redux, but on a completely shallow note, Clark is due for some lovin' even if it's mind controlled loving. :-) And we're all due for some Shirtless!Tom. :-)









jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 12:17 am (UTC)
What? We're not agreeing on everything? Thats not allowed ;)

I hated AM's makeup, and I hate CF's makeup. That look works if you are on doing fashion week in Manhattan or Paris, or if you on stage, or far away. But its just unattractive and distracting at the sort of extreme close-ups that SV uses. Aside from AM's hair, which was gorgeous, I didn't think they did her any favors in the dress and makeup department, and its such a damned shame, because it was a party, and an opportunity to make her look amazing, and they didn't do right by her.

Not only was Chloe and Lois snapping at each other annoying, but neither of them know Oliver best of all, so just shut up about it.

That ending Clois scene just didn't quite work as well as the Clois scenes in the first 2 eps worked. Dialogue was off, direction was off.

And hey, I totally agree that Clark deserves to get laid. I'm just not sure why SV has to create all these ridiculous situations so it can happen.
redteekal
Oct. 5th, 2008 04:06 am (UTC)
I haven't made a post about Toxic because to be frank I just felt meh about the whole episode really. That Clark/Ollie discussion at the end had me there for a moment, it was an interesting conflict being played out and then Ollie goes all 'What have you been through and maybe you haven't been on your island' and I was thinking - Hmmm pretty sure Clark would have handled being bitten by mosquitos for two years on his head rather than some of the crap he's had to go through so Ollie? You should Shut Up. Now. I honestly cannot tell though if my whole reaction was Meh because of Clark's low screentime or because I felt Ollie's Green Arrow origins should have held much more wonder and intrigue. Maybe I have been spoilt by other superhero origin stories ala Batman Begins, the first Spiderman film, Clark's story etc. Either way I completely agree re the Clark/Chloe argument at the beginning re Ollie and Hospitals, the rather disconcerting maybe/maybe not Chlark moments and the eye makeup that's gone to hell.
jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
I totally understand where you're coming from. I really struggled to post on this episode, whereas I'm usually chomping at the bit to post my thoughts. But I felt so Meh about it.
awehla
Oct. 5th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
I agree Oliver was a bastard to Clark in the bar. Things like stick to your milkshakes really get on my nerves as someone who doesn't drink and it smacks of low respect for Clark, apart from that we all know Clark can drink anyone under the table. As for the whole you are afraid of everything, haven't found your island crap Clark's life hasn't exactly been a bed of roses up to this point. Plus Clark has actually been making changes in his life and being more proactive.

I think Chloe was just being jealous when she was talking about Clark treating Tess differently because of her looks. Chloe didn't mean it but was probably feeling a bit bitter surrounded by all these pretty people. She's pretty but in Smallville world must feel a bit plain sometimes, lol. Of course Clark doesn't judge on looks though if Lois Lane was fat or something I'm not sure the epic romance would work as well. Still, it would be nice to see Clark date a woman who isn't conventionally good looking because he is probably the only character on the show who would.

I thought that last scene was a bit awkward too especially when Clark said he'd watched the Lana goodbye vid more than once and Lois immediately said not to talk about it. It did make him seem a bit pathetic somehow and Lois a bit sue-ish in being bored with the Clana.

Overall I did enjoy the episode though and thought the way they've linked Tess and Oliver is very Smallville. Everyone always seems connected in that show.

Lisa
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jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 04:18 pm (UTC)
Plus Clark has actually been making changes in his life and being more proactive.

And thats another thing. In a season where we are seeing Clark being proactive, and making some large steps in his life, do we really need someone to still berate him about inactivity? This is a big reason that I just felt like this episode was a major throwback to the last 2 seasons, and I hope Dries gets with the program.

I think Chloe is a very beautiful woman personally. But I think its possible that Chloe was just understandably reacting to Clark spending a lot of time with other women. The fact that they are attractive was probably a minor factor. Things are changing for them, and I suspect both Clark and Chloe are going to have those "whats up with him/her?" moments. I just wish this one was written better.

Yeah, I wasn't thrilled with Lois brushing off Clark talking about Lana. Especially when she was there to see just how upset he was over it. It was one of those moments were I thought she went from brash, abrupt Lois into bitchy, insufferable Lois. But again, if the whole exchange was only written better...
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serenography
Oct. 5th, 2008 08:26 pm (UTC)
I love the title, "Toxic Thoughts." Hee!

.not to mention the fact that he doesn't really know that much about Clark, or what he's faced, so he's really talking out of his ass.

I didn't really give his comments a lot of weight, so that's probably why they didn't bother me as much as they did you. I do think you make a good point above though, about how it is annoying if that's what the writers are trying to put out there as a truth about Clark's character at this point. I just can't believe they would seriously be implying that same old thing at this point. I really took it more as Ollie's own frustration (and drunkenness) making him lashout in a very unjustified way (except for the part about his parents, which I agree, Clark should have told him).

Regarding Ollie's origins, and Tess - ITA, shoehorned. The coincidence of them having been marooned together is so ridiculous that it makes me wonder if there is some underlying reason for it. I don't mind seeing Ollie scenes, but I'd much rather see them on his OWN show, and not take up so much time on this one. Hopefully, they've gotten it out of their system and he will revert back to a more supportive role for Clark from now on.

Because really? I would've thought reversing those positions for those characters made a hell of a lot more sense. Clark, because of who he is, would certainly understand wanting to stay away from hospitals. And I found Chloe's speech about how she's worked side-by-side with Oliver to ring a bit hollow. At least compared to Clark. I don't know, it just felt like Clark was cast into the less intelligent position there so Chloe could be the words of wisdom.

Gawd... don't get me started. ;) I do think you are dead-on in saying it would have made MUCH more sense for their positions on Ollie to be reversed in that situation.






jeannev
Oct. 5th, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
I think maybe with a few tweaks of the script, and perhaps Justin and Tom playing it slightly differently, that scene between them could've just come off as a drunken rant borne out of frustration, with Clark chalking it up as such. But when you add the scene in a close-up of Tom doing a woobie face, I can't help but take away the idea that I'm supposed to be thinking "Oh, Clark is realizing how right Oliver is about how much he sucks".

I love what you said about preferring to see this Oliver backstory on a show devoted to Oliver, but not so much on Clark's show. Total Word! to that.
juxtoppozed
Oct. 6th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC)
I'm glad I read this before downloading all the episodes. I think I'll pass on this episode. Especially because:

Because really? I would've thought reversing those positions for those characters made a hell of a lot more sense. Clark, because of who he is, would certainly understand wanting to stay away from hospitals. And I found Chloe's speech about how she's worked side-by-side with Oliver to ring a bit hollow. At least compared to Clark. I don't know, it just felt like Clark was cast into the less intelligent position there so Chloe could be the words of wisdom. (emphasis mine)

That's just ridiculous at this point. Absurd. I had to check out how you felt they were handling Clark because I read the description for Prey and (I don't know how spoiled you are so I'll be vague) this "reversal" between Clark and Chloe ideologically. I was LIVID. Such bullshit. Someone needs to write to whoever resents Clark and loves Chloe on that show (and they're a very clumsy writer for the reasons mentioned above--she's not even consistent, the sole purpose seems to be to make her look "right" in a scene with Clark, damn consistency to hell). Because if Prey is an indication, they're fucking up Clark's characterization in the final season to give Chloe a position *Clark* has *always* had about certain things.
jeannev
Oct. 6th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
I would definitely encourage you to watch the first 2, but you wouldn't be missing much by not DL'ing this one.

I do know what spoiler you are talking about with Prey, and for right now, I'm reserving judgement. Because if the situation plays out the way I'm imaging it (which, BTW, almost never happens with SV), then I can totally get where Clark is coming from. Hopefully they aren't going to make that situation too one-sided. But yeah, like you, I worry, because if the past is any indicator, they do love to have Clark be wrong so one of their pet characters can be right. Which, BTW, is not unlike how I felt they wrote the Oliver/Clark confrontation in this episode.
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acampbell
Oct. 9th, 2008 06:29 pm (UTC)
I haven't re-watched, but my reaction to the ep was largely identical to yours. I've always disliked Ollie for the reasons you gave; I also didn't like him as a Lex-substitute (the advice-dispensing older billionaire friend--only Lex was always a lot NICER when he gave Clark advice) or the blatant attempt in "Odyssey" to substitute Clollie slash for Clex. That'll never work for me, nor will over-focusing on Ollie when this show is supposed to be about Clark. Plus I hate it when the show repeats scenarios: we had bug-eating, shirtless Lex on an island in the S3 opener; did we need to see it with Ollie, too?

I felt that the ep LASTED about two years rather than 40 minutes minus commercials. Maybe it'll seem better after a review, but color me underwhelmed.

Sorry for the rant, but it felt good.
jeannev
Oct. 9th, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
Hey, no apology necessary. This is a polite rant friendly zone :)

I have to admit, I don't mind the Clark/Ollie slash too much, because it always amuses me to think of Clark as the obsession of all these billionaires. Bruce will be one in the future. But the Clex stands alone, and is unique.

This was not a well executed episode in my opinion. I think the idea was faulty from the get go. They bit off more then they could chew, and it ended up looking cheap and shallow.
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