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Screentime Total Project: S3 FINAL TALLY

   
As always, if there is a specific total you wish to know for an episode, or some detail I can provide, feel free to ask.  Part of me would love to post the totals for every single episode, just to share that info, but it would be a load of typing.  If there's an interest in that, let me know, and it might be doable. :)

I'll post the totals out in the open, and the comparison to other seasons under a cut.

Clark Kent :  490m, 49s - 22 eps
Total for Tom Welling :  504m, 23s (includes his screentime as "Joe" in Relic, and subtracts the brief glimpse of Baby Clark in Memoria)
Season High:  Slumber  33m, 41s
Season Low:  Forsaken  16m, 14s
    
Lex Luthor :  220m, 26s - 22 eps
Total for Michael Rosenbaum : 209m, 54s (subtracts the screentime of young Alexander in Memoria)
Season High:  Memoria  26m, 33s
Season High with Lex only being played by MR:  Shattered  25m, 38s
Season Low:  Obsession  2m, 18s

Lana Lang : 206m, 50s - 22 eps
Total for Kristin Kreuk : 218m, 4s (includes her screentime as "Louise" in Relic)
Season High:  Magnetic  23m,. 9s
Season Low:  Memoria  2m, 7s

Chloe Sullivan : 134m, 6s - 20 eps
Season High:  Truth  26m, 8s
Season Low:  Resurrection  2m, 7s

Pete Ross : 63m, 33s - 17 eps
Season High:  Velocity  17m, 39s
Season Low:  Exile  17s


Martha Kent : 85m, 21s - 22 eps
Season High:  Resurrection  8m, 57s
Season Low:  Crisis  1m

Jonathan Kent : 110m, 32s - 20 eps
Season High:  Legacy  11m, 54s
Season Low:  Magnetic  1m

Lionel Luthor : 127m, 35s - 16 eps
Season High:  Memoria  21m, 2s
Season Low:  Obsession  2m, 21s

Longest episode of the season:  Asylum  43m, 27s
Shortest episode of the season:  Whisper  40m, 12s

Type your cut contents here.

Clark Kent:

22 eps - S3-S6
20 eps - S7

 

Comparing 22 eps (S7 omitted)

 

S3:  490m, 49s **

S4:  480m, 49s *

S5:  441m, 22s

S6:  377m, 12s

 

*Total screen time for Tom Welling:  490m, 15s

**Total screen time for Tom Welling:  504m, 23s

 

Comparing through 20 eps:

 

S3:  451m, 40s***

S4:  445m, 6s*
S5:  
398m, 50s
S6:  345m, 15s
S7:  333m, 39s **

 

*Total screen time  for Tom Welling:  454m, 32s

**Total sceen time  for Tom Welling:  366m, 52s

***Total screen time for Tom Welling:  465m, 14s

Lex Luthor:

 

22 eps - S3-S6
20 eps - S7

 

Comparing 22 eps (S7 omitted)

 

S3:  220m, 26s**

S4:  197m, 11s

S5:  205m, 28s

S6:  221m, 47s *

 

*Total screen time  for Michael Rosenbaum:  215m, 34s

** Total screen time for Michael Rosenbaum:  209m, 54s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S3:  199m, 27s**

S4:  172m, 37s

S5:  176m, 9s
S6:  200m, 16s*
S7:  177m, 17s

 

*Total screen time for Michael Rosenbaum:  194m, 3s

**Total screen time for Michael Rosenbaum:  188m, 28s

 

Lana Lang:

22 eps - S3, S4
20 eps - S5
21 eps - S6
16 eps - S7

 

 

Comparing 22 eps (omitting S7)

 

S3:  206m, 50s*

S4:  204m, 20s

S5:  208m, 8s

S6:  237m, 46s

 

*Total screen time for Kristin Kreuk:  218m, 4s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S3:  190m, 14s*

S4:  182m, 43s

S5:  188m, 54s
S6:  223m, 11s
S7:  106m, 57s

*Total screen time for Kristin Kreuk:  201m, 28s

 
Chloe Sullivan:

 

20 eps - S3
21 eps - S4
22 eps - S5, S6
20 eps - S7

 

 

Comparing 22 eps (omitting S7)

 

S3:  134m, 6s

S4:  171m, 2s

S5:  194m, 50s

S6:  220m, 19s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S3:  134m, 6s

S4:  149m, 13s
S5:  
180m, 38s
S6:  208m, 24s
S7:  176m, 52s

 

Lois Lane:

 

13 eps - S4, S5, S6
12 eps: S7

 

 

Comparing 22 eps (omitting S7)

 

S4:  167m, 51s

S5:  101m, 20s

S6:  120m, 18s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S4:  155m, 27s
S5:  92m, 28s
S6:  100m, 35s
S7:  96m, 9s

 
 

Martha Kent:

22 eps - S3
21 eps - S4
19 eps - S5
18 eps - S6

 

 

Comparing 22 eps (omitting S7)

 

S3:  85m, 21s

S4:  93m, 1s

S5:  124m, 56s

S6:  62m, 20s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S3:   78m, 28s

S4:   79m,27s
S5:
  112m, 10s
S6:   56m, 15s


 

Jonathan Kent:

20 eps - S3
21 eps - S4
12 eps - S5

 

Comparing 22 eps – No data from S6 on

 

S3:  110m, 32s

S4:   89m, 11s

S5:  117m, 14s*

 

*Total screentime for John Schneider:  123m, 29s

 

 

Lionel Luthor:

16 eps - S3
13 eps - S4
15 eps - S5
12 eps - S6, S7

Comparing 22 eps (omitting S7)

 

S3:  127m, 35s

S4:  81m, 30s*

S5:  98m, 39s

S6:  71m, 22s

 

*total screentime for John Glover:  72m, 4s

 

Comparing 20 eps : 

 

S3:  106m, 35s

S4:  68m, 17s*
S5:
 80m, 19s
S6:  57m, 19s
S7:  67m, 48s
 
*total screen time for John Glover:  58m, 51s


 

Jason Teague:

20 eps - S4 (only season)
 

S4:  118m, 25s

 

Pete Ross:

17 eps - S3 (no information post - S3)

 

S3:  63m, 33s



I hope all these numbers don't cause anyone to go cross-eyed or anything.  Its a lot of numbers.

 
 

Comments

( 23 comments — Leave a comment )
tasabian
Jul. 29th, 2008 01:36 am (UTC)
I found this very interesting as S3 is my favourite. Boy, Pete was underused! And though Lex had the same amount of time in S6, the quality of his S3 scenes was infinitely better.

And the decreasing screen time for Tom can definitely be linked to the show's decline in S5 - 6 (IMO)
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC)
I was really surprised when I did the totals, because I thought the final numbers for Lex and Lana would be much higher. I'm pretty sure S3 will end up being the most Lionel-centric out of all the seasons. I forgot how much he was on in S3.

There's no doubt at all in my mind that Clark's decline in screen time is completed tied into SV's decline in quality.
svgurl
Jul. 29th, 2008 03:14 am (UTC)
Those were really interesting numbers! S3 really did have a lot of Lionel didn't it? And wow ... poor SJIII ... I never realized his numbers were that low.

jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 01:40 pm (UTC)
I suspect Pete's numbers will be a bit better for S1 & S2, but there were definitely moments they could've used him, and they just didn't. He got screwed.
carolandtom
Jul. 29th, 2008 08:03 am (UTC)
Now I wish I could tell all those who said I was being paranoid about Clark's decreasing time on the show: look a those numbers; wasn't I right?
Now I understand why SV has gone downhill to me. The show was less and less about the story they set out to tell until it became something I'm not interested to watch. And the quality has declined immensely, IMO.

Thanks for doing this huge work!
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 01:42 pm (UTC)
Well Carol, now you have the numbers to show to anyone who disputes you that there's been a lot less Clark in the latter seasons. Numbers do not lie!

The crazy thing is that there's a quote from AlMiles where they actually say that the show works when they center everything on Clark, and doesn't quite work when they don't. When did they forget that?
seacrystal
Jul. 29th, 2008 12:32 pm (UTC)
From almost a 500 to only 377? CRAZY.

I'm quite surprised at Lex's totals, I thought he'd be much higher. Which makes me wonder if it's more about strong performances and the focus on his character, rather than the screentime itself. That's how I've felt about certain characters from other shows/movies as well, while they may have lesser screentime compared to the others -- they still managed to give an impact and stayed with me throughout, sometimes even more with those with the higher screentime.
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 01:45 pm (UTC)
I think with Lex, it might definitely be a quality over quantity issue. After all, a lot of people love S3 for Chloe, and her screen time numbers are pretty low. So, same principle.

The decrease in Clark's screen time is irrefutable. And after all, thats what spurred this whole project on in the first place.
starry_dawn
Jul. 29th, 2008 03:21 pm (UTC)
Almost 100 minutes less for Clark from S3 to S6? EPIC FAIL. What were TPTB thinking? It's HIS show, for crying out loud!

And the rest of the numbers are very interesting as well. I was never a big fan of Pete, but man, did he get the shaft. Hell, Jason got more time than him in the one season he was on. I guess that's what comes from being one of the very few non-Lana-love-interest males on the show. :/

Unsurprisingly, the rise in screentime for Chloe, Lex and Lana through the later seasons did nothing for their characters. I think the writers were managing all the characters great till S3, and then somehow everything just went down the drain. It's so depressing.
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 03:49 pm (UTC)
I would absolutely love the opportunity to present the numbers evidence to PS3, and ask them why? Though I suspect its really an AlMiles thing.

Jason actually had a good chunk of screen time in his single season.

I think the big bump in Chloe's screen time is tied to being in on Clark's secret. And the Lexana provided a big bump for MR in S6 (at what cost though?). I think S6 was generally a very Lana heavy season.

I don't know, I get the feeling that there's something to the rumors of strife between Gough and Tom, and I believe the huge drop in screen time for S6 & S7 is tied into that.
starry_dawn
Jul. 29th, 2008 06:10 pm (UTC)
I don't know, I get the feeling that there's something to the rumors of strife between Gough and Tom, and I believe the huge drop in screen time for S6 & S7 is tied into that.

I can't think of any other reason why the LEAD in a show might get 100 minutes less screentime as the seasons go on. They did such a good job of integrating all the various storylines in the earlier seasons, while keeping the focus on Clark, that I don't see why things went so bad so suddenly.

Of course, it could just be that all the good writers left and the ones left now either aren't interested in writing for Clark or just don't care. Shiny toys! :/
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC)
Boredom could definitely be a factor. Or maybe panic that Clark would progress too far, as lame as that sounds.
eeyore1017
Jul. 31st, 2008 04:25 am (UTC)
Hi! I'm going to try to start going on livejournal more often now. :-)
All of those numbers do make my head swim, but I think it's awesome that you're doing this.
My only reasoning behind the screentime drop for Tom that I can live with is that it was at his request. Maybe he was just getting SO burned out that he was relieved at the idea of "GreenArrowville" so maybe he could actually have 2 days off in a row. Of course, I have no idea if that's the truth, I'm just hoping that it is.
jeannev
Jul. 31st, 2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
Hi!! I'm glad you decided to stop by. I friended you back, BTW.

The numbers are a lot to take in. Thats why I always offer to break something down for someone if they are interested. I know its sort of popular to point the finger at Tom for the dropping screen time, but personally I don't buy that. And even if he did request more time off, that doesn't explain why they wrote him as such a peripheral character.

I hope you'll chime in more often.
jude_judith82
Jul. 29th, 2008 05:03 pm (UTC)
Seeing the numbers out there made me realize that yeah there is a lot less Clark. Oy.
jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
There can be no denying it. The numbers don't lie. I've always thought it was a big difference, but its nice to be able to see the numbers and know its not just in my head.
la_belle_isa
Jul. 29th, 2008 05:36 pm (UTC)
Very telling numbers as always. Lex's screentime is pretty steady from season to season; although it felt to me like he was litterally absent from early S7 (gazing at his wedding ring for 3 epis).
About Clark/Tom screen time, I don't think it's a coincidence: the huge drop in screen time, the focus on GA and soap, and Tom's silence. When you don't agree with your boss, you shut up in public; that's a basic rule.
The recent ps3 comments about Tom (how they try to make him happy so he will resign), crack me up. I mean, Clark at the DP, being more heroic is basically what the majority of fans want anyway. It just confirms to me that Tom and the fans are on the same page.
I hope he won't resign, but I wonder if tptb will ask him not to announce it until later in the season...

jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 06:53 pm (UTC)
When you don't agree with your boss, you shut up in public; that's a basic rule.

Exactly! I really think there's something to that. Remember that Tom went completely silent about halfway through S6. In early S6, he was still visible. Not doing a lot of press, but doing some. Somewhere after Justice, he cut everything off, and that happens to coincide with some questionable behavior from Clark. Is it connected? The evidence is circumstantial, but its something to think about.

I've always felt that Tom Got It, if you know what I mean. I don't think AlMiles every Got It. The jury is still out on PS3.

As for signing for another season...please don't Tom. You can do better.
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jeannev
Jul. 29th, 2008 06:55 pm (UTC)
Truth be told, math scares me too. LOL But a side benefit to this project has been a marked improvement in my math skills. LOL I'm still not good with percentages though. I need a math sidekick to help me on this project. I bet Scry/Routh would be good at that...maybe I can recruit him *g*

And there's not a doubt in my mind that less Clark has been very detrimental for this show. Not one doubt.
goodvibe
Jul. 30th, 2008 12:18 pm (UTC)
Wow, that ::is:: a lot of numbers---

For me, these numbers just reaffirm a few thoughts I've had wrt the show for a while now. Clark's screentime decreasing signalled the beginning of the decline in quality, it really did. I don't think anyone will be able to deny that when a show loses focus on its central character and starts writing them as an afterthought almost - you know there's something wrong with the picture.

Secondly, combined with the writer's growing fascination with the characters of Lana and Chloe - and their screentime consequently significantly increasing? I think this just further added to the problems.

Thing is, I actually don't have a problem at all with supporting characters screentime increasing, if the central characters remains the same, or at the very least if the storylines for the supporting characters justify the bump in airtime. But with a lot of Chloe and Lana's storylines post S3, I feel as though the quantity may have increased, but the quality suffered significantly. Chloe's not had an exceptionally exciting plotline since season 4 IMO, and although KK did marvelously well acting wise in S6, and had a great deal of screentime, a lot of it was to the characters deteriment IMO, not to mention Clark and Lex' too.

So, basically, for me? SV has screwed up on all accounts. It's progressively kept sidelining Clark, and all the whilst kept giving that screentime in nothing storylines to other characters. Who, ironically, IMO, fared much better as characters in ealier seasons when their screentime wouldn't have been quite as much.

I also feel tremendously disappointed with how the show ended up utlizing Lex' character in seasons 4, 5 and 6. Just goes to show I suppose quantity does not always equal quality. MR deserved far, far better. I do however feel he was much better handled as a character in S7.

Sorry for rambling on so, heh. I always feel I have lots to chat about after your screentime project updates!
jeannev
Jul. 30th, 2008 01:46 pm (UTC)
I always feel I have lots to chat about after your screentime project updates!

Well thats good! I want this whole thing to inspire conversation, and thought. So, if it sets off a few good rambles and rants, my work here is done. LOL

...and although KK did marvelously well acting wise in S6, and had a great deal of screentime, a lot of it was to the characters deteriment IMO, not to mention Clark and Lex' too.

S6 was really a terrible season for Clark, I think. Not only did his screen time plummet, they also wrote him doing some very unheroic things, they made the whole phantom storyline a B or C plot, and they wet themselves over Green Arrow, to Clark's detriment. And then you had the Lexana, which gave both Lana and Lex lots of screentime, but I don't think it did much for either them as characters.

I just don't know what to say about Chloe at this point. Between my unhappiness about how she was used in S7 overall, and particularly in regards to Clark, and the spoilers for her in S8 (Everybody Loves Chloe!), and the powers crap, and AM's apparent belief that Chloe is as/more important than Clark....I just don't know. I'm in a very bad place with her.
goodvibe
Jul. 30th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
//S6 was really a terrible season for Clark, I think. Not only did his screen time plummet, they also wrote him doing some very unheroic things, they made the whole phantom storyline a B or C plot, and they wet themselves over Green Arrow, to Clark's detriment. And then you had the Lexana, which gave both Lana and Lex lots of screentime, but I don't think it did much for either them as characters.//

So much word. S6 screwed up on several counts, the most heinous of which was the writing of Clark. Funny thing is, (the decreasing screentime aside) I actually started the season really appreciating the way Clark was written. I think 'Zod' is one of those great eps that show Clark at his most heroic. I also felt there was good material for him in 'Sneeze', 'Arrow', 'Reunion' and 'Rage.' It's really after these initial few strings of eps (though really, 'Wither' should've been a warning of things to come ::shudder::) that things went downhill, and fast. I do believe it was the GA effect and the unholy triangle of Clexana that together really did the season in. I just can't forgive the utter and blatant lack of interest and care displayed for Clark, at the hands of the writers. I do like Lois' development in S6 though and on the whole it's oddly more watchable (in parts) than S7, but there are aspects about it on the whole that infuriate me to no end.


//I just don't know what to say about Chloe at this point. Between my unhappiness about how she was used in S7 overall, and particularly in regards to Clark, and the spoilers for her in S8 (Everybody Loves Chloe!), and the powers crap, and AM's apparent belief that Chloe is as/more important than Clark....I just don't know. I'm in a very bad place with her.//

I was baffled by a few of AM's comments at the panel. I was commenting in Dawnybee's lj that though I think AM is a very capable actor and she always seems very personable and friendly, I just get the feeling sometimes from her interviews that she doesn't always have the most realistic grasp on her character or the show. It's a bit wierd. And I'm not too thrilled with all the romantic shippy BS we've been getting in spoilers either. How many love interests is Chloe going to have, exactly? Or GA for that matter? It's like right where the Goughlar left off, honestly, in terms of 'ship pandering nonsense.

::sighs::

And there, see? You asked for for a good 'ol ramble and rant, heh. ;-)
jeannev
Jul. 30th, 2008 04:16 pm (UTC)
I know what you mean about watchability. Its strange, because I think I like the storyline arcs better in S7, but I think the eps were a bit better done in S6. But overall, both seasons give me a headache, and neither were very positive for Clark. And for me, failing Clark is failing the show.

AM does seem to have a very unique perspective. And I'll leave it at that, because I think anything else I might say might sound like I'm tearing her down. And I'm not a fan of that sort of thing.

Basically, it seems like since now that Chloe is the LEADING LADY, that means she has to inherit Lana's mantle of everyone being in love with her. But I think its just as tiresome for Chloe as it was for Lana. I'm taking a wait-and-see approach on Ollie's love life, because in one interview JH said Ollie's "womanizing" was one way of showing how he's lost his way as a hero. So, there might be some point to various love interests in his case. But we'll see.

Oh, I suspect you and I could rant and ramble together for hours :)
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