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S8 Smallville Spoilers, and some Me stuff!

 

I'm starting off with this picture, just because he's Lovely!!

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From TV Guide, as posted on DTS

Get ready for the return of the Justice League. When Smallville comes back in September, the Super Friends reunite to search for Clark Kent, who went missing in May's season finale after tussling with Lex Luthor at the Fortress of Solitude.

Smallville creators Al Gough and Miles Millar have departed (and are currently producing the Hannah Montana movie), so four of the series' longtime producers have taken over for Season 8. "Luckily [Al and Miles'] voices are still talking to us in our heads as we're breaking stories," says Kelly Souders, who is running the show with Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. "Their visions come to us all the time, so I think they did a great job of preparing us for this day."

One of the first things the new quartet did was lock in Justin Hartley for at least 12 episodes as Green Arrow/Oliver Queen, a fan favorite who appeared frequently in Season 6 and once last season. He'll start this new chapter by gathering Aquaman and Black Canary to rescue Clark. Alan Ritchson and Alaina Huffman will reprise their roles, as will Phil Morris, whose Martian Manhunter also appears in the opener, titled "Odyssey."

This season's theme is "double identities," Souders says. "It's about the Superman identity emerging as Clark Kent tries to maintain a normal life — or the appearance of a normal life." To that end, he takes a job at the Daily Planet, right across the desk from Lois Lane (Erica Durance).

"The camaraderie as they work side-by-side that everyone loves from the DC Comics and all the Superman lore is going to come to fruition this year," Souders says. "The two of them are thrown together in some unfortunate situations for Clark. She becomes a little bit of an obstacle to him saving the world, when he's on a deadline." — Rich Sands 



Well, I'm OK with this so far.  Some of the JLA members looking for Clark seems to be a pretty spectacular way to start the season.  It wouldn't have been my first choice, but on the other hand, Clark has been there for Oliver, and AC, and Dinah, so why not them being there for him?  And Yay! for the return of Martian Manhunter, if only because I know how much Phil Morris loves playing the character and working on the show.  

And I also like the idea of Clark starting to consider the double identity.  Its definitely a step he needs to take to reach that next level.  

And I understand the complaints of Clark suddenly taking the job at the DP, and him not having qualifications, and so on.  But ya know what?  I don't really give a shit.  And ya know why?  Because someone was going to bitch no matter which way it went, so whatever.  I have never gotten the strong impression from this show that there was much interest in showing realistic journalism, or even realistic career growth in just about any character.  So, Clark working at the DP makes me happy, and I'm anxious to see him off the farm, and working at the DP.  Do you think there's any chance we might get a wardrobe change?  We pretty much have to, right?  Please??!!  And glasses??!!

I'll wait and see how the Clois interaction goes, because they've hinted at stuff before that hasn't actually come to pass.  And if this is the direction they want to go, I think its disappointing they didn't up Erica's episode count, which I personally thought they should have.  

But since 'shipping stuff bores me to death, I'm just going to concentrate on the Clark stuff.  And to that end, we have Clark getting a job at the DP, and working in Metropolis.  Him thinking about a double identity.  And best of all, him trying to save the world while on a deadline, which just makes me SQUEEEEEE!!!!!!!


On other matters, seems I've been suspended from TWoP.  I guess standing up to Clark hating trolls and challenging their bullshit (in the Clark Thread no less, which has turned into the "Poor Lex, Clark has mistreated him" Thread) is verboten on TWoP.  Why am I not surprised?  Frankly, as it stands right now, I'm probably not going to go back there as a poster.  Its too hard trying to figure out Tennison's capricious moderator whims.  I also find that the atmosphere there is entirely unpleasant for anyone who doesn't think Chloe and Lex are perfect creations, and that Clark, Lana and Lois aren't worthless pieces of crap.  Its always had that tilt, but lately its just aggravating and impossible.  And its having an effect on how I view Chloe and Lex as characters, and I don't want to hate them.  So, really, why subject myself to that?  I've gotten a lot of private notes over the time I've been posting there, thanking me for sticking up for Clark and TW, and daring to challenge the party line.  And I think that drove me for a long time.  But now I'm not really feeling it anymore.  Things could change, of course, but thats where I stand as of today.

Oh, and I just want to brag about a personal accomplisment in my life, as modest as it might seem.  This is rare, since I almost never talk about myself personally.  But I just had all new windows installed at my house, and the air conditioners I had didn't sit right in the new windows.  So, I recruited my sister, came up with a design, and we built frames that sit inside the window sill to hold the air conditioners in place.  They came out wonderfully, and work perfectly.  I'm ridiculously proud of us and our ability to make a design, buy lumber, and use power tools.  Ty Pennington, Watch your back, I'm coming for your job!!!


ETA:  Some added spoilers from K-Site, for 8x02, Plastique

UPDATED 7/2/08: This episode will explore Clark's first day on his new job and his teaming with Lois.
- The character of paramedic Davis Bloom makes his first appearance in this episode, and he interacts primarily with Chloe. 

As soon as we knew AM was coming back for S8, I had a very strong feeling that they were going to pursue a connection between Chloe/Davis rather then Lois/Davis.  I just had that inkling.  

And Clark's first day at work?  SQUEEEEEE!!  Please let him wear a suit.  Please!



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roxymissrose
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:04 pm (UTC)
Ah! I clicked for the picture and the news, and now I am in awe of your power tool skills! Go you!
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:16 pm (UTC)
Thank you!! You have no idea how something so small like this could make me feel so accomplished. Its a little nutty, but thats OK. :)
huzzlewhat
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:23 pm (UTC)
I.... like these spoilers. I do wish they'd sign Erica D. for a full season, but until/unless they do, I'll take what I can get. The prospect of them working together (and across from each other) is really enticing. I'm happy as a clam that they're bringing Phil Morris back — there's a ton of potential there for good Clark scenes, and the boy really does need an adult mentor... it would make me extremely happy if he popped up for several episodes, because right now Chloe is the only confidante Clark has who knows his true nature, and that's just not enough to provide variety. I'm pleased that Alaina Huffman is back as Black Canary — it doesn't completely balance out the overwhelming level of testosterone in the League, but it does mean that it's not an all-boys club.

And I'm okay with the DP thing. There's always hand-wavy stuff to get the characters where they need to be to pull off the stories they want to tell, and frankly, journalism has never been portrayed realistically on this show. Every time I think they're getting it, they don't. So yeah, if it gets me scenes of Clark at the Daily Planet, stumbling his way to a double life, and in some kind of work clothes other than the red jacket, well, I'm waving my hands with the best of them.

I'm sorry to hear about TWoP... how frustrating and infuriating and so very unfair. I do agree with this, however: And its having an effect on how I view Chloe and Lex as characters, and I don't want to hate them. So, really, why subject myself to that? I find myself far too easily affected by general fandom opinions, and will often find myself holding obnoxious fans' behavior against the characters they support... it's one of the reasons why I've stuck to my own little corner of LJ-land for Smallville, instead of venturing out onto the main boards. It took me several years to recover my Spike-love after my reaction to the extreme woobification that fandom bestowed upon him, and I didn't want that to happen to another character!

jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:35 pm (UTC)
I would love more Martian Manhunter. For the reasons I've already articulated, but also because he does seem like the ideal character for Clark to share some things with, and learn from. I always thought MM made more sense as a conduit to Kryptonian stuff then Kara. At least in the context of this show.

And I am also pleased that Black Canary is making another appearance. I'm hoping that she makes several over the season. She is Oliver's eventual soulmate, and if Ollie's going to be around, then I think she should have a presence.

I don't really think they handled the entrances into the DP particularly well for Clark or Lois. But truth be told, I never really thought Chloe was handled that realistically either, though better. But this just par for the SV course. And if this is what they need to do to move forward, rather then meander in place, I'll take it.

I thought I'd be more frustrated and infuriated over the TWoP, but instead I feel more "Meh!", and I think thats probably a good sign. Maybe I'm supposed to get the hint, and move the hell on. LOL
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starry_dawn
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:28 pm (UTC)
You know, I think I'm done with getting frustrated/elated over spoilers - the whole thing has copped out on me several times before and turned up to be something totally unexpected, so I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens. It's just so much easier on the nerves that way. ;) I'm actually thinking of going spoiler-free altogether, but it's hard!

And its having an effect on how I view Chloe and Lex as characters, and I don't want to hate them.

This is so true. I'm very susceptible to fandom's mood swings, so anything anyone says about a character tends to affect me, both positively and negatively. To an extent, that's unavoidable, but I think being in a place like LJ where my flist comprises almost all the different fanbases helps in keeping me sane. I like looking at different viewpoints, so sometimes hearing the same things over and over again can drive you nuts.

Ooh, and congratulations on the frames! Every little accomplishment goes a long way! :D
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
I know I couldn't do spoiler free, but I totally respect those that can.

I try to keep my reactions to spoilers in check as well. Especially when it comes to SV.

I think lj is a healthier place for me to share my SV views, as a Clark fan, and as a non-shipper who hates the nasty bashing. It seems to make the most sense.

And thanks for the congrats! I'm ridiculously proud. :)
jude_judith82
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:52 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this it gives me some hope for the next season. And by the way you totally could take Ty Pennington's job that dude's a lightweight ;-)
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 03:57 pm (UTC)
It definitely seems to indicate some forward movement for Clark's character, and thats what is most important to me.

LOL, well Ty might be able to relax...until I figure out corners, then he's in trouble!!!
tariel22
Jul. 2nd, 2008 04:10 pm (UTC)
Yay for you for the window frames! \o/ I totally get that feeling of accomplishment you're talking about, especially if it's something that's not in my usual area of expertise.

I'm not going to speculate about the spoilers, I'll just wait and see how the episodes play out when they happen. But Clark at the DP sounds great to me, no matter how he gets there. That quote about visions of AlMiles is kind of disturbing, though. :)

You got suspended?! That mod is out of control, if you ask me. Well, TWoP without BadToad isn't TWoP at all, as far as I'm concerned. I pretty much stopped reading TWoP anyway, though. I can't take the bitterness and the endless complaining and the extreme hatred for some characters. Even the Tom thread lately has had a tone I don't like. I find LJ and my flist much more enjoyable.

And I can't get enough of that latest pic of Tom! How I'd love to see a smile that genuine and that carefree on his face now. He just looks so absolutely joyful!
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 04:37 pm (UTC)
I'm so silly, I feel like taking pictures of my A/C frames and posting them. Really, I'm out of control!!

I think its best not to overthink SV spoilers, especially when they come from TPTB. I sort of take them, let them settle, then wait and see. As long as Clark is moving forward, I'm very open-minded. I think the AlMiles quote might just be a little paying tribute rather then something to really worry about. My bigger problem is that I'm not a fan of Souders/Peterson. Them in charge worries me. Less so for Slavkin/Swimmer.

Well, TWoP without BadToad isn't TWoP at all, as far as I'm concerned.

LOL, well I don't know about that. But it just got a lot less Clark/Tom friendly. Luckily there are a handful of posters there that can carry the torch.

PrettyBabyModelTom=Love!


Edited at 2008-07-02 05:30 pm (UTC)
canadabear
Jul. 2nd, 2008 05:07 pm (UTC)
I am so excited for these spoilers. The only people who aren't? Chloisers. And well, too bad for them. This is Clark's show and I'm not going to temper my enthusiasm for getting Clark-centric spoilers, especially ones like these.

And yeah, I can understand the DP complaints, too, but we'll have to see how they work it out. Frankly, if they are going EDLois and Clark (which I think it's pretty clear they are) then this is what needed to happen. They need to spend as much time together as possible.

And yay frames! Power tools can be fun.
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 05:34 pm (UTC)
I'm a little excited too. Because the spoilers indicate a Clark that is moving forward, getting off the farm, and finding some direction in his life. And for me, thats what the show is about. One of the problems with the last few seasons is that its been far too focused on making the show about everyone elses progress BUT Clark's. Well, I want S8 to be about Clark.

Could it have been written better? Yes. What couldn't have been written better when it comes to this show? My expectations were adjusted a long time ago.

Power tools are awesome. I'm especially fond of my drill. :)
romanyg
Jul. 2nd, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC)
What I don't understand are the Chlark and Clex shippers who can't stand Clark. I've seen both groups get vocal about what a horrible person he is and how he doesn't deserve nice things. And yet they ship him with their favorite character. How? I just don't get it.

I have to admit that I've only taken a few peeks at TWoP, just too much meanness over there for me. I'm blinking that you got banned for being a Clark Defender. Whose show is it again? Plus if people are making disparaging remarks about TW, I'd think that would be more grounds for bannination.

I'm looking forward to S8. Clark at the Daily Planet! Whee!

And congratulations to your designer self! *throws confetti*
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 06:27 pm (UTC)
I wish I could help you understand 'shippers that hate Clark, but I'm afraid that also confuses the hell out of me. I think the reasoning is something like if he's all about their favored character, then he's a better/more admirable character. For some of them, Clark doesn't seem to exist as an individual.

I think I probably got suspended because I pretty agressively called the Clark hating trolls on some blatant falsehoods that they continued to post over and over again, even when they couldn't provide any canonical evidence to back up the bashing. I guess you aren't supposed to challenge people, even when they make stuff up. Though I'm pretty sure at TWoP, that only applies if you are defending Clark, Lois or Lana.

I am very much looking forward to Clark at the DP too. So many wonderful possibilities, and new storyline avenues for him. And thats what the show is really about, isn't it?

And thank you, thank you. Today an A/C frame, tomorrow who knows? Maybe a whole house. LOL
pep_singer
Jul. 2nd, 2008 06:39 pm (UTC)
Personally, I would've written Clark's entrance to the DP a lot different and probably better than PS3.

I would've had Clark enroll back in college, start taking classes, rekindle his fondness for journalism, *then* have him at the DP. Also, I would have liked for him to start working there once Lex wasn't the owner anymore (since he said in "Artic" that he wouldn't work for Lex).

But why am I not surprised?

And congrats to you and your sister. Y'all are far more architecturally-inclined than I am. :D
pep_singer
Jul. 2nd, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
Ooh, pretty young Tom picture! Thank you!
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tasabian
Jul. 2nd, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
Very sorry to hear you got suspended - the Clark thread has been toxic lately, and I'm speaking as a Lex fan :(

"Luckily [Al and Miles'] voices are still talking to us in our heads as we're breaking stories," says Kelly Souders, who is running the show with Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer. "Their visions come to us all the time, so I think they did a great job of preparing us for this day."
That's such a bizarre way of putting it - like Goughlar is communicating from beyond the grave.
jeannev
Jul. 2nd, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
Can I just say that you have been amazingly fair and balanced, and you represent the Lex fans beautifully. Some of the others? Yeah, not so much.... ;)

I found that line about AlMiles bizarre as well. I'm telling myself that she's just being polite, as "Thank God those 2 weenies are out the door" probably wouldn't be very professional :P
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jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:19 am (UTC)
Sorry I tempted you :)

For me, the show is about Clark. And I really want to see Clark move forward. So, I can forgive a lot in that area. After Clark being held back for so long, I'm just ready for a burst forward. Even if its considered a lightswitch. I wish SV had better writers, but they don't. I've come to terms with that long ago.

I have my reservations about the JLA stuff because of how badly they handled the episode Justice. But I think they'll work in this premiere. And I'm OK with them coming back, as long as they work with Clark, not shoving him out of the way so they can be highlighted.

I'm hoping they concentrate on Lois' journalism career in S8. I think that aspect needs development, and I think if they avoid pointless storyline distractions with her (like the Grant thing), she'll fare well.

I suspect TWoP will be very, very ugly come S8, because I don't think the show has any intention of going in the direction the majority over there wants it to go. I imagine the Clark and Lois bashing will be in full swing.

And takes bow for my A/C frame building prowess. LOL
theclexfactor
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
I completely sympathize with the Clark support. I think all the Lex apologizing and the "Chloe is the awesomest" has tarnished how I view them. It's certainly affected my once vaulted Clex love, pushing me closer (and, let's face it, over the edge) to complete SuperBat love. But to be honest, even without the Chloe fans, I never did like the girl. But I do love me some Lois (SV version, anyway).

I'm more looking forward to the new season now that you've posted this. Yes, please Clark, don't wear that damn red/blue shirt or jacket to work, I beg of you (DAMN YOU WARDROBE DEPT.)
jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
I gotta say, between some of the amazing fanfic writers out there, like bradygirl and romany, I've pretty much fallen in love with the SuperBat as my slash pairing of choice. Though there are wonderful Clex fic writers out there, and I do still find SV's Clex to be a dynamic, interesting, wonderfully dysfunctional relationship.

I just think when you get bombarded with how PERFECT and WONDERFUL and DESERVING and AMAZING certain characters are, and that more often then not goes hand in hand with some really vicious bashing, you just get this kneejerk reaction to dig in your heels in the other direction. At least thats whats been happening to me of late. I don't think the extreme character love would bother me AT ALL if if didn't go hand-in-hand with the viciousness and vitriol. I'm just not a big fan of character hating. Doesn't matter if its fictional. Thats what the way I am.

OMG, can you imagine if Clark spends a lot of his time in a suit? I'll be a puddle. Tom will look so beautiful!!!!

Edited at 2008-07-03 01:32 am (UTC)
silverscreengal
Jul. 3rd, 2008 02:56 am (UTC)
I'm in total awe of that Tom picture and thank you for posting it. I logged on LJ today, just hoping for a Tom fix (finding a new pic is like finding a mountain of candy! YUM!) and voila! There it is!! Where did the pic come from? I mean, is it new to you? And is it a random modeling pic or is it from a specific shoot?

You rock as carpenter extraordinaire!! There is nothing more fulfilling than making something with your hands, designing it and having it turn out perfectly. Congrats!

My philosophy has always been, if Tom's in it, I'm there. The show is what it is. I'm just thrilled to have Tom in my living room week after week. Like tariel22, I like to watch it unfold before I get too worked up.

I'm sorry about TWoP. Fandom is a fickle friend. You are always welcome here on my LJ!!





jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:06 am (UTC)
Its a totally new picture to me. The most lovely ivorykiss found it and posted it first. It seems to be one of his early modeling pics. Seems a few new ones pop up each year. I hope one day we get proofs from his Vogue shoot, because you know they must've shot a ton of pictures before they choose the ones for the magazine.

And thanks for the carpentry compliments. I feel like I rock at the moment!! LOL

Your philosophy (and Tariels) is mine as well. If Tom is there, I'm there. And if emphasis is given to Clark and his development, then chances are much better that I'm going to enjoy it.

And I'm glad I'm welcome on your lj because I intend to stick around. ;)

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silverscreengal
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:33 am (UTC)


Obviously a manip there!!!

jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
I'd agree, but damn, its a good one!
miss_tress
Jul. 3rd, 2008 05:27 am (UTC)
I also find that the atmosphere there is entirely unpleasant for anyone who doesn't think Chloe and Lex are perfect creations, and that Clark, Lana and Lois aren't worthless pieces of crap.

*hugs you for this*

I read my list today and I almost cried with frustration. The crazy anger people have just boggles my mind. How dare the main character of the show finally have some forward momentum/character development?! Why aren't the writer and producers shaping the show to our exact wishes and whims?!
jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)
I can understand having some anger and frustration. I can understand shaking your head and thinking "oh, you silly show". I mean, I get all that. But at some point, I think you just have to realize the show isn't about what you want it to be about, and walk away, right?

I know I get crazy frustrated and angry at some of the writing for Clark, so I do get it. But *shrugs*

I think part of the problem is that people created this whole show in their heads, and they just weren't listening to what TPTB were telling them was the story. Its why I always say the companion books should be required reading.

And thanks for the hugs :)
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beef_wonder3
Jul. 3rd, 2008 12:25 pm (UTC)
Yay! I’m ridiculously excited over these spoilers!!!
Smallville Season Premiers are notoriously awesome so I predict much glee & squeeing when it airs!
I adore the idea of Clark & Lois working at the DP together. I hope there’ll at least be some fun episodes this season coz TW & ED have the best comedic chemistry.

Ugh, sounds like TWoP isn’t worth the effort. Years ago when I started nosing around SV fandom I checked out those boards and ran far, far away! I obviously don’t need to tell you it isn’t a haven for Clark lovers.

Also, congrats ‘bout the window frames. It’s always satisfying accomplishing a building project.
jeannev
Jul. 3rd, 2008 01:31 pm (UTC)
I'm keeping my fingers very tightly crossed that this set up might allow for a bit more levity, and some silly, funny moments. Because God knows this show needs to lighten the hell up. And getting Clark out of the barn, and into the DP, with him pursuing stories sometimes with Lois sounds like it might open up some chances for humor and a new dynamic. Personally, coming out of S7, I felt that the personal dynamics were in desperate need to a shake-up, because the status quo was no longer working for Clark as a character. And frankly, not Chloe either. I thought a major change was really needed.

I've always been the sort of person who doesn't mind having a minority opinion, and doesn't mind a good debate and different POV. But there has to be some modicum of truth and respect on both sides of an issue, or its really just a toxic environment, and beating your head against the wall. I used to believe that TWoP was the former, but its become the latter. Ah well.

It’s always satisfying accomplishing a building project.

Amazingly satisfying. Its like good sex, LOL
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