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Wow, time has flown, hasn’t it? (no pun intended). Half of Smallville’s last season is in the can, and its only 11 more episodes to go.

And I’m OK with that. I'm sort of ready for it to end, actually

Since we’ll be on hiatus for several weeks, I figure we’ll have time to entertain ourselves, and give our impressions of the season so far, overall. I’ll try to keep that out of this review.

First, our totals

Icarus, running time: 41m, 41s

Clark: 18m, 46s
Lois: 25m, 29s
Tess: 6m, 46s
Oliver: 10m, 40s

Emil: 5m, 45s
Cat: 5m, 5s
Carter Hall: 12m, 56s
Courtney: 7m, 2s
Dinah: 3m, 1s
Slade: 4m, 53s

Chloe: 1m, 7s

Year To Date (# of eps)

Clark: 243m, 12s (11)
Lois: 196m, 53s (11)
Tess: 87m, 50s (9)
Oliver: 78m, 33s (9)

Chloe: 6m, 59s (3)
Cat: 28m, 11s (3)


It is strange. I probably thought this episode was put together just as well as last weeks episode, which is pretty good. But like last weeks episode, it was not without its problems. But the main difference, for me, was that while last weeks episode sparked my imagination, this week was much more basic present day Smallville. One isn’t better then the other, its just a personal preference.

After some of the reactions to the events of last weeks episode, which were just so very strange to me, I’ve decided I’m not going to say much about the Clois stuff. Odd, I know, considering what took place this week. But I’m just feeling like to say anything that isn’t “SQUEEEE, I loved them” ends up being misconstrued, and fodder for people who seem incapable of accepting an opinion that falls outside of their own. Its too exhausting, and I find I don’t feel like dealing with it.

So, I’ll say the proposal scene was fine. Its nice to see Clark so happy. The engagement party was even cuter for me, and it was nice to see everyone gathered for a joyous occasion. Though it made me wish this was a show with a much bigger budget and that more of “the gang” could’ve been present. I would’ve loved to hear what Bart would have to say, for instance. And AC and Mera should’ve been there, given how the show paralleled both couples just recently, and how involved they were in Patriot, which figured heavily into this plot. And yeah, whatever my feelings have become about the character, Chloe should’ve been there too.

I especially enjoyed the dialogue between Carter and Oliver. This is a very cute little relationship they’ve developed between these 2 characters, and truth be told, it resonates more for me then the supposed bond that’s developed between Carter and Clark, which I don’t really feel as much.

This was an episode loaded with characters, and as is usually the case with jam-packed episodes, I felt Clark got a little pushed to the side (Heck, he even played a bit of the 2nd fiddle to Lois. Thats a considerable screentime difference between them). Not with the romance stuff, of course, but more in the heroic arena. It’s a hard thing to explain, really. Clark is around, interacting with others, and doing stuff. But I think what happens in these sorts of episodes is that it stops feeling like Clark’s show, and feels more like a show about a team/group. I know that appeals to some people, and I can understand that appeal. But as a Clark girl, thru and thru, I guess I like the show more focused on Clark as “THE HERO”, not so much Clark as “ONE OF THE HEROES”. Ya know? Does that make sense? Well, it does to me, anyway.

Every character got their moment to shine in some way. For Clark, it was in his proposal/commitment to Lois (he, literally, doesn't have one scene in the episode where he isn't with Lois, or he isn't mentioning Lois). For Carter, it was his big save at the end, coupled with his mentorly advice and presence. Courtney/Stargirl got to do a cool thing with her staff (Sounds Dirty!). Tess and Emil got opportunities to positively shine during their interrogations (both of them earning spots on “My favorite moments in the episode” list). Cat got to show that she’s really not nearly as close-minded as we previously thought. And I thought the writing for Lois was also particularly good.

I’m not sure Oliver got his moment to shine, exactly, but he was written very, very well. I still find it very hard to buy this close friendship he’s supposed to have with Clark, but as the only other male regular on the show, I guess he’s the best man by default. I admit, I just have a mental block with this relationship that isn’t likely to change unless I hear the words “I am sorry” from Oliver somewhere along the line. And I know I won’t. Clark may have forgiven and forgotten, but I have not, and he’s obviously far more Superman then I. ;)

But still, I thought Justin Hartley nicely played the reaction to being asked to be best man, and I also thought his performance was strong throughout. I still have trouble though, feeling his pain over Chloe considering it’s a relationship I just didn’t see develop on screen. But I guess it’s just one of those things with this show that I’m going to have to get used to.

I wish I felt like Clark was written as strongly as some of these other characters. He wasn’t written badly, just not very noteworthy. This seems to be a constant with Genevieve Sparling’s scripts. She just seems underwhelmed with Clark. I also didn’t think this was one of Tom’s stronger performances of the season, which might be a symptom of Clark being underwritten. He did stand tall, and stoically, several times, which sometimes seemed to be all that was asked of him. Standing there and looking good is always a guarantee with Tom. LOL

I find I like the overall concept of this storyline (even though it was as subtle as a sledgehammer to the head). But I do wonder if I missed a few episodes somewhere along the way. This is a problem with a show that’s trying to juggle so many storylines at once, and trying to zip through them in a single, final season. We don’t quite get the detailed development we need to get from Point A to Point B in a believable manner. I know all of this is supposed to be tied to “The Darkness”, but so much of that feels like its playing out in Offscreensville. I don’t feel as connected to it as I would hope to feel, and so the storyline doesn’t quite resonate the way I would like. It’s more of an outline explained by exposition, then a storyline unfolding on screen that feels real and true. I think I would’ve hammered it more strongly, on a weekly basis (and again, I feel aggravated by the wasted plots of Isis and Harvest. The latter especially!). Bottom line, I’m not sure I saw the transistion that took place that turned Metropolis into a police state. And I think I sort of needed to.

Then again, doesn’t most of this hero teamwork stuff take place off screen as well? Yeah, pretty much. Offscreensville is a rocking show, I think.

Michael Hogan is probably a very good actor. I don’t watch BSG, so I wouldn’t know. As this big, bad villian, he just doesn’t do a thing for me. I don’t find him menacing, or intimidating at all. I think that’s a big problem. Also, speaking of this character, who “enhanced” him (for lack of a better term)? I think one of my biggest issues with this character is that I feel like he’s a conceit by the writers that we are just supposed to know how he is and what he means in the comics. He’s important because Deathstone, or Deathstroke, or whoever he is, is known in the comics. All season long, I’m felt like the red-headed stepchild of fans because I don’t have a pre-existing knowledge of who this parade of comic characters are, and what purpose they serve. My sister, who isn’t a comic book person, or hooked up through the ‘net, feels completely lost in this season. If she didn’t have me to ask questions to, I really believe she’d become an occasional watcher, if that. That indicates a problem to me, because I know she probably represents a segment of the casual watcher out there. I’m certainly not suggesting they not include comics characters, I’m just saying that you need to explain them and flesh them out on screen for them to be meaningful to everyone watching.

I think the aspect of this episode that bothered me the most was Clark pulling out the \S/ crystal. Um, what? So, where the hell has that thing been? Didn’t it get destroyed back in Phantom? If it wasn’t destroyed, can anyone give me one good reason why Clark didn’t use it on Davis/Doomsday in S8, as opposed to dragging him up to the FoS? And wasn’t it only supposed to work on phantoms? Is it now handy-dandy for any random bad guy with magical healing powers who has gone all darkity-dark?

And I cringe with fear over how they are going to handle this problem of so many people knowing that Clark Kent = The Blur. Is there another answer besides “mindwipe”? And that’s so lame.

As I said before, lots of good performances in this one from pretty much everyone. Tom? Not so much. It breaks my heart to say that. :(

Random Thoughts:

Hawkman’s wings looked awesome this time around

The chick that plays Courtney has scary,skinny legs. Jeez, eat a burger! Eat a dozen!

I thought the dialogue in the Lois/Chloe scene was odd, in that I’m not sure why Lana was namedropped, without the real story of why Clark and Lana didn’t stay together being addressed. Don’t get me wrong, because Chloe was right that Clark and Lana were ultimately not meant to be together. But obviously the real situation could not be covered properly in that short conversation. I’m glad there was a Chlo-Lo scene, I just wished the conversation was more about them, not Lana.

The new uniforms of the VRA troops was a bit too Nazi/SS for me. I guess that was supposed to be the point, but it felt heavy-handed (a term I’m using a lot this season).

Why would they have metal detectors to get into the basement of the DP? 

Anyone else wondering what sort of presents Clark and Lois received for their engagement?

Why would Lois escape from the DP, and head over to Oliver’s office? Wouldn’t she have a pretty good idea that it wasn’t a safe place to go?

Emil should be a frequent recurring character. And I wouldn’t mind more of Cat either, because I find Keri Lynn Pratt really brings dimension to a character that could so easily come off as one-dimensional. Both of these characters add color to the show for me.

I have to admit, I was a little underwhelmed at the funeral for Carter. Maybe because in the history of SV funerals, it didn’t seem quite as visually stirring as the past funerals for Whitney’s dad, Jonathan Kent, or even Alia last season. I do think it beat the funeral for Henry James Olson though.  And I thought Tess and Emil deserved to be there.  Given Lois' prominence, it obviously wasn't superheroes only, and Tess and Emil should be considered part of the group just as much.  

Alaina Huffman looks AMAZING! Wow. Oliver might want to start getting all up in that. I had to laugh though, when she was on the screen at Watchtower, and Clark decided to shut off the power, and her screen just went blank. I could imagine her on the other side thinking “Rude much?”

I really liked Lois’ boots. I thought that was a very strange outfit to have been wearing at the office.

And that’s a wrap. Nothing new until the 28th of January. I’ll try to come up with something to help us pass the time until then.

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tasabian
Dec. 12th, 2010 05:34 am (UTC)
And AC and Mera should’ve been there
TAKE THAT BACK!

Alaina Huffman looks AMAZING!
Beautiful in person too but much tinier than I expected.

I think the aspect of this episode that bothered me the most was Clark pulling out the \S/ crystal. Um, what? So, where the hell has that thing been? Didn’t it get destroyed back in Phantom?
That's what I thought. Very deux ex machina.

Michael Hogan is probably a very good actor. I don’t watch BSG, so I wouldn’t know. As this big, bad villian, he just doesn’t do a thing for me. I don’t find him menacing, or intimidating at all.
I enjoyed his first appearance but he was dull as paint here.

As I said before, lots of good performances in this one from pretty much everyone. Tom? Not so much. It breaks my heart to say that.
Clark was written so generically, that maybe Tom just "gave up" and ploughed through his meager lines as best he could manage? I've noticed before that Sparling has no affinity for Clark. Weirdly, she does have a handle on Oliver. Agree that Oliver/Carter have a nice rapport.

But I’m just feeling like to say anything that isn’t “SQUEEEE, I loved them” ends up being misconstrued, and fodder for people who seem incapable of accepting an opinion that falls outside of their own. Its too exhausting, and I find I don’t feel like dealing with it.
I'm sorry that you feel like you can't speak your mind in your own journal. If people don't like what you write, they don't have to read it!

Edited at 2010-12-12 05:35 am (UTC)
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 05:45 am (UTC)
Now, now, I'm not suggesting that AC and Mera have any lines aside from maybe, "Congratulations!" But after hitting us over the head with the parallels, and somehow thinking that we needed Mera to endorse Clois, you'd think they could make the engagement party.

Oh, I certainly think the writing for Clark is probably a factor in Tom's very off week.

I know I can say what I want in my own journal, and I've never quite understood why anyone gets so bent about what I have to say. But honestly, I'm just not up to it right now, or maybe anymore.
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jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 05:48 am (UTC)
OMG, the rocks in the street? That was freaking hilarious. Because God knows that you're likely to find these big horking rocks in any city street. How silly was that?

I have to be honest, I thought the trailer for whats to come was a major snooze, and hardly had any Clark in it. And I just rolled my eyes at what he said in the trailer, because, Again? Really?

Looking over the 11 eps we've had so far, I'm underwhelmed. Really, really underwhelmed.
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wingster55
Dec. 12th, 2010 06:21 am (UTC)
"Michael Hogan is probably a very good actor."

He is :P.

I felt there was a little less Clark but wasn't significant. I am one of the people who enjoy the team scenes..working with other heroes is a major aspect of his future life so seeing it is ok with me.

Proposal scene..felt off somehow.
Needed more Tess imo.

Did the police/whoever they were going after anyone resemble a particular group? (Think Germany 40's). I heard someone mention it somewhere.

For the final season they sure are juggling numerous balls huh? Lex, Darkness/seid with the VRA and the engagement. I worry for the payoff.
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 06:43 am (UTC)
Well, as much as I love Tess, I can't say I'd want to see more Tess when Clark was underused in this episode. I have to have my priorities. ;)

I'm sort of suprised that the VRA agents weren't speaking in German accents, and goose-stepping through the episode.

I think they have too many balls in the air, honestly. Especially when I really and truly do believe that their #1 priority is Clois, above all the other balls. I'm not sure really talented writers would be able to handle it all. And I would never refer to the SV writing squad as really talented.
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(Anonymous)
Dec. 12th, 2010 06:56 am (UTC)
If the proposal was Clark's big moment, it sure wasn't a good one. When they announced that Genevieve Sparling would write this episode, I had a feeling it was not going to be a good mid-seasoner and I was right after viewing it. They picked the wrong person to write the mid-seasoner like Icarus. This is also an example of what happens when you have too many characters in a 42-minute episode.

Icarus, like last season's mid-seasoner Pandora, was Lois-centric. It seems the producers are repeating same problems from last season instead of correcting them. The episode description was nothing like the episode we saw and it was pretty misleading in certain areas. Put together this with Patriot and you can see that it was more about Lois and the VRA than anything else since it was her father that got it passed.

Not having Clark involved when the people were attacking the heroes as well as helping Hawkman deal with Slade and saving Lois made this episode a downer for me. Nothing was advancing Clark's story in terms of transitioning towards Superman. The only things that were advancing were the Clois relationship and the VRA involving soldiers interrogating their support like Dr. Hamilton and Tess.

Both Dr. Hamilton and Tess should have been at the funeral since they are part of the team. I can understand Lois being there for the sole reason of being saved by Hawkman before his death. I also didn't feel the bond between Clark and Hawkman whatsoever. All Clark was thinking about was Lois and nothing else. The cliffhanger at the end was weak, random, and out of nowhere and it was strange to see Lois being the only one to see the white pyramid and not everyone else since they're standing by her side.

A weak ending to the first half of the season that started strong, got muddled in the middle, and ended weak.

Vantheman77
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 04:29 pm (UTC)
I think when I rewatched the episode, I realized how Lois-centric it was. But then again, it was also Carter-centric in a way too. Bottom line though, it was NOT Clark-centric. I'm fairly convinced that the more heroes they get to play with, the less interested they are in playing with Clark. And Clark was ALL about Lois in this episode. Even in what should be a big "hero" moment, when Clark, Carter and Oliver all find themselves in Slade's office, Clark turns the conversation to Lois. Which seemed like an odd choice to me.

I think Clark's biggest heroic moment in this episode probably came when he got Tess and Emil away from the gestapo. But there again, all he had to say was "Where's Lois?"

I'm guessing that Emil and Tess weren't at the funeral because they needed characters that were free of whatever the aftereffects of that will be. But whatever, they should've been there.

A weak ending to the first half of the season that started strong, got muddled in the middle, and ended weak.

I'll be honest. I don't think its been consistently strong at any point.
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twdiva
Dec. 12th, 2010 08:57 am (UTC)
I have no desire to re-watch anything from this episode. I was bored and asking myself "Where is Clark?" during at least two stretches...even when he was actually in the scene. All that standing around made him seem invisible. *shakes head* And the cliffhanger couldn't have been any more anti-climactic.

Proposal...meh, I'm not big on the mush stuff. But the lead up to it had some weirdly stiff/monotone dialogue coming from TW. Otherwise, I actually thought he was fine in Icarus but just kind of there. Nothing bad but nothing special, either. Kind of like Harvest in fact (except I thought the rescue scene WAS bad), where his character was also underwritten.

I would have liked seeing more of the VRA plot playing out onscreen instead of getting useless episodes like Harvest, etc. It just seemed to have ratched up out of nowhere in this episode.
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 04:33 pm (UTC)
I don't see me rewatching this ep either. In fact, I hardly rewatch any of this season. I've watched certain scenes from Homecoming and Luthor over again. And I've rewatched Ambush in its entirety. But besides that? Nah, just not compelled to rewatch. I think that says a lot about where I am with the show at the current time. Which is not a great place.

I don't know if I'm aging myself here, but the cliffhanger reminded me of the old nighttime soap drama, Dynasty, and all the characters lying around, shot up, after a wedding was attacked. So, I was giggling.

I also would've liked to see more of the VRA plot on screen. Heck, I would like to see more of Clark being The Blur on screen. Does he even patrol anymore? Rescue anyone? When was the last time we got a random save? Clark feels sort of detached from that whole part of his life lately. I guess in Offscreensville, he's a rescuing machine. On screen? Well, not so much :/
tjw_jaypat
Dec. 12th, 2010 12:06 pm (UTC)
Well, yes, that was some average episode. Not Sparling´s worst, but surely the usual Clark-light writing. He wasn´t even written badly. He was all heroic etc. but simply underused as always.

And I completely agree: the entire season terribly underwhelms me too, and usually the episodes of the second half don´t really get better. It´s very sad to see SV end like that. What annoys me too is that this is no longer really Clark´s story but some general superhero show. I think it´s not too early to say that SV was one big fail when it comes to the original premise of the show, namely telling the story of the young Clark Kent. They had the best Clark they could get, yet totally neglected to tell a decent story of his development.

Of course I need to come to Tom´s defense here. Like twdiva before me, I didn´t see anything bad, but also nothing outstanding. Yes, the proposal didn´t work for me, but I trust that both the director and the actor gave this special scene a lot of thought, even though they made the wrong decision to portray it in a formalist way, like Clark was already standing at the altar addressing not just his spouse but also the entire wedding party. That felt unnatural, but I don´t see that it was bad acting per se. It was just a wrong choice. And the rest of the episode was OK for me Tom-wise.

I admit though I am still underwhelmed by the recent Clois relationship. They are strangely distant on the one hand, despite being in some sense close on the other. It seems to me they portray it as if these two were an accomplished long-time fact already, but this "soul-mate confidence" doesn´t really fit at this early stage of their relationship. It just makes them look like an elderly couple.
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 04:38 pm (UTC)
You know how much I love Tom, so you know I don't criticize him lightly. I'm certain that this script didn't help matters at all. But I'm also wondering if Tom isn't spreading himself too thin, and its showing through a bit. I mean, you can only burn the candle on so many ends before it burns out. I'm sure he gives it 100% all the time though.

For me, I knew that the first 3-4 episodes out of the box would tell the tale on this season, and after seeing them, I realized that this S10 wasn't going to be all I wanted it to be. I knew it wasn't going to do Clark justice in the way I had hoped for. And now, 11 episodes down, I realize that it can't play catch-up, so I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that the show is going to come to an ending that won't be entirely satisying for this particular viewer. It is what it is, but I'm be lying if I said it doesn't break my heart a little.
costas22
Dec. 12th, 2010 12:23 pm (UTC)
Got to say that I missed this smile.

"For Clark, it was in his proposal/commitment to Lois (he, literally, doesn't have one scene in the episode where he isn't with Lois, or he isn't mentioning Lois)."

Pretty much. I think you'll hear all sorts of stuff about Luthor and Icarus and why the latter was a better epi for Clark even if he had less ST. It depends on what you want to see imo. It was after I watched Icarus that I realized that one of the main reasons I liked Luthor so much, was that the Clois stuff was toned down. Again, no denying the importance of Lois' character but I consider it overkill when they tie her and Clark together for basically every arc of this show.


"For Carter, it was his big save at the end, coupled with his mentorly advice and presence."

That was probably my favourite scene of the episode. I get where you are coming from when you want Clark to be the hero. I started watching the show for him and he is still the character I relate to. But I am a bit more open when it comes to other heroes appearing on the show. Some I don't particulary care about(AC or Stargirl) and some have impressed me a lot. MM, Dr Fate and Carter Hall are at the top of that category. I didn't know much about Hawkman, but he has won me over with his personality and his dynamic with Oliver. The sad part about that scene was that imo it weakened Clark to a degree. Because the way it transpires, it makes you really wonder if Clark can make it alone. Well, looking at Hawkman in this episode, I'd say that he was quite a hero even with his heart empty. Can't Clark do the same?


"And I thought Tess and Emil deserved to be there. Given Lois' prominence, it obviously wasn't superheroes only, and Tess and Emil should be considered part of the group just as much."

I groaned when I saw that. Don't know why it is, unless Collateral will pick up immediately where the cliffhanger left off. (Spoiler warning) An episode that Tess probably misses. I was ok with Tess in this episode. But is there a rule that she has to have that hairstyle at the DP? Don't get me wrong, CF could be bold for all I care. My crush on her is irreversible. It's just that I prefer her with her hair down just a bit more. ;)


"I thought the dialogue in the Lois/Chloe scene was odd, in that I’m not sure why Lana was namedropped, without the real story of why Clark and Lana didn’t stay together being addressed."

Yep. That would have been interesting. And imo, unless you plan to deal with the actual facts, you might as well not go there at all. I've missed Chloe, but this scene could have been skipped. And I really hope that once she returns, her scenes won't be along the same lines.


"I guess he’s the best man by default."

Plus, I have a feeling that Sam Jones' recent *ahem* activities kind of burned his bridges with the show. Anyway, I like the Clark/Oliver scenes this season. Ambush being a good example, lol. But I can see where you are coming from in regards to Oliver apoligising. With some of the stuff Oliver and Tess did in S8, the show has asked us to take a leap of faith this season.


Once again, it was a pleasure reading your review. They always get me thinking about some stuff I normally don't notice. And then tend to talk a lot about. :)
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
I think I could, maybe, miss Chloe and be excited for her to come back if 1. I wasn't desperately afraid of how that reappearance was going to take place, and 2. Chlollie.

I'm not sure either Luthor or Icarus was a great episode for Clark. But, the latter was more entertaining to me, and a much better showcase for Tom Welling. But really? Neither episode was about Clark, and neither episode did much to further the heroic Clark arc.

Michael Shanks was really terrific. Probably one of the most memorable hero guest appearances to me.

I hold very firmly onto the idea that Clark would be a hero, with or without Lois, with or without a great love in his life. But obviously the show continues to try and convince me otherwise. I'm going to ignore the show because thats too upsetting for me.

I'm glad you feel comfortable enough to share your views here. I've really enjoyed you joining my lj family, and its been a pleasure to read your thoughts.
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asha14
Dec. 12th, 2010 03:33 pm (UTC)
This episode was a ball of eh and what happened and why does everything feel so rushed to me. The sound looping for Welling was bad during the proposal and I felt stiffness from BOTH Welling and Durance during that scene. I was chanting for Carter to die already because I did not care about the character like at all. I liked Cat very much in this episode, she is a good reporter with good instincts and a good heart. As much as I love the character of Lois Lane I think the scene with Cat was either one of her finest moments or showed that Lois can manipulate with the best of them. I think Oliver being best man shows that Clark has no male friends. Unfortunately I agree about Welling's acting in this episode being on of his weaker ones the other was Isis. I think that there was many chances that Clark could have been the centered character in this episode, one of them was being the one to save Lois when the back draft throw her out to the window. I think Carter Hall showing up to save Lois and getting skewed in the back was enough to show that he was a hero, the actual physical save should have been Clark's. I could have done without the Chloe/Lois scene that could have been screen time added to Clark. I liked the pacing of this episode and the build up of suspense, however the story was rushed.

Ambush, Homecoming, Shield, and Luthor (the last two being the ones imo that while mildly average however were saved by very good acting) have been the only episodes I liked this season the others while having one or maybe two good scenes in them have been uninspired, plodding, boring, and badly written. After the preview I am not looking forward to the second half at all.
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 04:49 pm (UTC)
"ball of eh" LMAO! I'm going to use that phrase in my everyday life.

And I think everything feels rushed because they are trying to do too many things at once. Truth be told, I was really hoping they were going to leave the engagement until the end of the season, but oh well. And Metropolis the police state happened mostly off screen, so that was a big WTF.

I liked Cat too. I think they've done enough to present a person who is more comfortable believing in black and white due to the circumstances in her own life, and it was interesting to see her challenged here, and rethinking where she was coming from. I don't think Lois told her something she didn't know, I just think Lois helped her to confront it.

Honestly, I saw no point in resurrecting the Chloe/Lois scene aside from the fact that people wanted to see Chloe again. Take it out of the episode, and you lose absolutely nothing, story-wise.

Your top 4 eps would also be mine. :) There were good scenes in the other eps, but nothing that would compell me to rewatch them.

And I thought that preview was a major snore.
canadabear
Dec. 12th, 2010 05:52 pm (UTC)
And wasn’t it only supposed to work on phantoms? Is it now handy-dandy for any random bad guy with magical healing powers who has gone all darkity-dark?
Slade was under the influence of Darkseid, as revealed in "Patriot." One assumes that when Slade was resurrected, it was as a projection of Darkseid, or still some kind of agent of his at least, and that's why the crystal was able to work.

Also, I think it's more likely Clark just had another crystal made at the Fortress at some point, possibly after the Faora deal in "Bloodline" and "Legion", realizing he might just need one again. And it wouldn't have worked on Davis because he was a purely physical being.
jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 10:17 pm (UTC)
But isn't that a whole lot of fanwanking, and trying to find answers to all this stuff that happened off screen, or was never even remotely explained on screen?

See, I don't think all that should be necessary. I sort of feel like there is a staff of writers that are making a whole lot more money to me to write this stuff. Sure, I can write it myself, but why should I need to?
awehla
Dec. 12th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
Good review as usual. Offscreenville does seem like a great show.

That guy from BSG was a good actor in BSG. What amused me was he had one eye in that and ended up with one eye in Smallville and it wasn't till he lost his eye that I recognised him.

More realistically (well for sci fi) that guy should have collapsed when Clark used the crystal meaning the evil spirit/phantom was captured but the body/shell remained.

I agree too many people know Clark's identity. And with the engagement happening already it seems to me everything is happening in the wrong order.

Lisa
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jeannev
Dec. 12th, 2010 10:20 pm (UTC)
I think the biggest reason I would want to watch Offscreensville is that I could see Clark being The Blur, and being on patrol in Metropolis, and doing heroic things, and saving random people. To me, thats a huge whole in this season. When is the last time we saw Clark doing anything that resembled protecting the people of Metropolis?

I don't mind things being in the wrong order. I just doubt the shows ability to tie it altogether and make it work in the end. I think its likely we're going to get a heavy dose of "Ah, a wizard did it...off screen!".
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(Anonymous)
Dec. 13th, 2010 05:31 am (UTC)
THIS IS FANTASTIC, please read this review
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=8074&rowstart=400#post_118264
jeannev
Dec. 13th, 2010 02:21 pm (UTC)
Wow, LOL. And I thought I was a tough critic. I think I liked this episode quite a bit more then he did. But thanks for the link, it was an entertaining read.
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jeannev
Dec. 14th, 2010 02:09 am (UTC)
Re: part I
I think the Clark/Slade confrontation should've been this big thing. But honestly? Of the 3 major confrontations Slade had with characters in this ep, his one with Clark was the most underwhelming. His scenes with Lois, and then the fight with Hawkman definitely felt *bigger*.

I think for me it's that a lot of the big speeches in the episode, the moments where someone said something truly meaningful or profound or potentially game changing, all went to other characters.

Right, I'd agree with that. Again, there's this difference between someone being influenced by mentioning what the Blur did for them, and Clark in his hero mode affecting people by doing something for them. OK, that probably didn't make sense, but I think you know what I'm getting at.

Its been my experiance with the show that the more heroes the show brings in, the less Clark gets a chance to stand out. This episode was more proof of that. And if one is a viewer that is more about the surrounding characters/heroes then Clark, then this was probably a really fun episode for you. But I don't roll that way.
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jeannev
Dec. 14th, 2010 02:17 am (UTC)
Re: part II
I think this show would like to pretend that the episode Doomsday just does not exist (they certainly like to pretend that Jimmy never existed). But for people like us, the memory lives on, and thats forever going to color how we view Oliver. And its not like every Clark/Oliver interaction since then has been aces either. Last year, Oliver was just fine with going behind Clark's back with Chloe. So, honestly, has much changed?

And to be fair, I'm not terribly convinced that Clark feels all that warm and fuzzy about Oliver either. This supposed close friendship just doesn't really feel genuine from either side.

This might be ageist, but I think Hogan is too old for the role. He's not like an IRONSIDE, who looks like he could kick your ass at any age. Slade needs to be more menacing, and scarier. As it is, I'm watching Hogan, and thinking "He looks like John McCain".

Cole Hauser can be on any show, any time.

If Oliver is too busy mooning over Chloe to notice the hotness that is Dinah, I hope Cyborg rolls into town soon ;)
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chatchien
Dec. 16th, 2010 10:07 am (UTC)
If it wasn’t destroyed, can anyone give me one good reason why Clark didn’t use it on Davis/Doomsday in S8, as opposed to dragging him up to the FoS?

Wasn't Clark going to do that? And then Chloe got one of her bright Season 8 ideas and talked him out of it. Didn't they green gloop Davis with kryptonite instead? What about that red stone that Kara used on the first and evil Faora? Where did that go? With Kara?

That El symbol might be able to transport live bodies, didn't Kara use it to send Lois back to Earth from the phantom zone? And then there's that blue crystal that sent Clark and Lois to the phantom zone in Bloodline. Clark is a crystal packing alien man in this show.

But still, I thought Justin Hartley nicely played the reaction to being asked to be best man, and I also thought his performance was strong throughout.

Gosh, if a guy takes his shirt off enough; you start liking him. So shallow.
jeannev
Dec. 16th, 2010 02:54 pm (UTC)
I think Clark was going to use some sort of crystal to send Davis to the P-Zone, and then he hid it, and then supposedly Tess stole it and destroyed it. The one that Kara used on Faora was Martian Manhunters, and I assume he still has it. And since everyone pretends they don't know where he is, I guess they can't ask him for it.

Kara used her blood to send Lois back from the Phantom Zone. She pressed her plan to the console.

Clark is a crystal packing alien man in this show.

LOL, and apparently they only show up when the plot needs them, and then are conveniently unavailable when the plot needs that.

I think I'm liking Oliver more now that his shirt has stayed on. It starts coming off again, and I'll probably go back to thinking he's a dick.
jwm_rocks
Dec. 17th, 2010 02:25 am (UTC)
Holy smokes, how the heck did Lois end up with twenty five minutes?

I remember back when Genevieve Sparling seemed to be the darling of Chloe fans. I guess maybe it wasn't so much that she could write Chloe as much as she couldn't write Clark?

TW did seem a bit off but the script did him few favors. This seemed a lot like Isis for me -- there's potential for a good episode -- but a lot of that potential wasted. Both episodes seemed to have some strong scenes which were ultimately weighed down by things that just didn't work.

Offscreenville must be a rocking show. Of course I'm assuming it's not weighed down with bad writing and a minuscule budget. ;)

I think the aspect of this episode that bothered me the most was Clark pulling out the \S/ crystal. Um, what? So, where the hell has that thing been?
Talk about deus ex machina. Maybe Chloe sent Clark the crystal for his engagement present.
jeannev
Dec. 17th, 2010 03:06 am (UTC)
When I did a rewatch, I realized Lois was all over this one. And she has a few rather lengthy scenes. And lest anyone suggest that her unconscious time shouldn't be counted, she was unconscious for about 50s.

I think its correct to say that Sparling does not have a good way with Clark. Honestly, I suspect her favorite character is actually Oliver. But there's something about her eps that always seems off to me. Her eps seem to plod along for some reason.

I just no longer know who to blame for what though.

All season long, I feel like I've been saying "good ideas here, but...." And since thats a season long problem, I have to believe that blame for that lies at Souders/Peterson feet.
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